Some good info shared in here. Appreciate it.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Is this common, or is this possibly because standing overhead presses before standing lateral raises have fatigued my side laterals more than posterior delts? [/quote]
I’ve been reading a lot about shoulder pressing in the TNation archives. From a bodybuilding standpoint, most people seem to recommend to NOT use standing OHP, but to do them seated.
Secondly, anyone tried/used Bradford presses?
(Over-and-back bb presses, but not to lockout, so it focuses on the deltoid not the tricep.)
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Is this common, or is this possibly because standing overhead presses before standing lateral raises have fatigued my side laterals more than posterior delts? [/quote]
I’ve been reading a lot about shoulder pressing in the TNation archives. From a bodybuilding standpoint, most people seem to recommend to NOT use standing OHP, but to do them seated.
Secondly, anyone tried/used Bradford presses?
(Over-and-back bb presses, but not to lockout, so it focuses on the deltoid not the tricep.)[/quote]
Thanks for your input. For now, the standing overhead press better suits my needs and goals. I am not saying it is a better exercise, just feel it is a better exercise for me at this time. I have used seated ohp before and will us it again in the future.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Is this common, or is this possibly because standing overhead presses before standing lateral raises have fatigued my side laterals more than posterior delts? [/quote]
I’ve been reading a lot about shoulder pressing in the TNation archives. From a bodybuilding standpoint, most people seem to recommend to NOT use standing OHP, but to do them seated.
Secondly, anyone tried/used Bradford presses?
(Over-and-back bb presses, but not to lockout, so it focuses on the deltoid not the tricep.)[/quote]
Thanks for your input. For now, the standing overhead press better suits my needs and goals. I am not saying it is a better exercise, just feel it is a better exercise for me at this time. I have used seated ohp before and will us it again in the future.[/quote]
FWIW, I’m using standing OHPs too – mostly for stability, and laterals for hypertrophy. Just sharing what I’d read.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Is this common, or is this possibly because standing overhead presses before standing lateral raises have fatigued my side laterals more than posterior delts? [/quote]
I’ve been reading a lot about shoulder pressing in the TNation archives. From a bodybuilding standpoint, most people seem to recommend to NOT use standing OHP, but to do them seated.
Secondly, anyone tried/used Bradford presses?
(Over-and-back bb presses, but not to lockout, so it focuses on the deltoid not the tricep.)[/quote]
Thanks for your input. For now, the standing overhead press better suits my needs and goals. I am not saying it is a better exercise, just feel it is a better exercise for me at this time. I have used seated ohp before and will us it again in the future.[/quote]
FWIW, I’m using standing OHPs too – mostly for stability, and laterals for hypertrophy. Just sharing what I’d read.[/quote]
Thanks for sharing, for real. I’m pretty much using the same exercises you stated for the same reasons with strength added to reasons for SOHP. I just personaly feel better and like the SOHP more than seated.
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
do partial laterals a la john meadows
thank me (and him) later[/quote]
that is all you need
partial swings for rear delts work too, I did 100reps the other day[/quote]
Partials for swings too? The last year or so I’ve incorporated partials more and love them but never would have thought to do swings that way. What is the range of motion that you use because it’s obviously working damn well for you? How heavy do you go relative to if you were using full ROM?[/quote]
Last time I did hanging swings (chest resting on an inclined bench) I did 40lbs x 60reps dropped 20lbs x 30reps and then 12lbs x 10reps full rom
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x2 on the hanging swings.
One thing I would note is to make sure you are relaxed with the arms hanging completely down when you start. In the middle of my set I noticed that in a semi-shrug position. Once I let my arms hang completely down it absolutely destroyed my shoulders.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
x2 on the hanging swings.
One thing I would note is to make sure you are relaxed with the arms hanging completely down when you start. In the middle of my set I noticed that in a semi-shrug position. Once I let my arms hang completely down it absolutely destroyed my shoulders.[/quote]
good tip, thanks
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I dont have large shoulders. My posterior delts however are less devoloped than my side laterals, however I find myself able to use more weight performing bent-over lateral raises compared to standing lateral raises. Is this common, or is this possibly because standing overhead presses before standing lateral raises have fatigued my side laterals more than posterior delts? [/quote]
bent over lateral raises involve the bigger more powerful back muscles. 2/3 of your traps are on your back, anterior delts, romboids, etc. when you’re uprigh none of these are helping you out. only the traps get involved a little if you’re “pulling up from the elbows”, keeping the elbows higher than your wrists. in effect bent lateral raises are kind of like a row in that sense. make sure your forearms stay parallel to the floor through out your range of motion durring bent lateral raise and it will become harder for sure.