[quote]I_am_here wrote:
Drink driving is illegal yet plenty of people die from it, if it was illegal though, wouldn’t the figures be much higher?
Most people obey the laws but you’ll get the 5% that dont. If you were to allow drink driving to be legal, I am sure it will just be opening the floodgate.[/quote]
Dude, that really has nothing to do with anything. Why didn’t you just substitute drunk driving with murder for an example?
And steroids should absolutely be legal.
If certain types of fat can be deemed illegal, steroids have no chance of ever being legalized, no matter how logical the argument.
Hell, I had to fill out a form with all sorts of personal information and sign it at the local CVS pharmacy just to but one box of Bronkaid for my wife yesterday.
The bigger question is what will become illegal tomorrow.
Yes!
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
Look how many people drink and drive.
Maybe they should ban alcohol too.
Yes, because we all know how well that worked last time…
Non-user chiming in–I’ve always found it hypocritical how they make steroids illegal and then allow 13 year old girls on daily estrogen pills…BC pills are steroids, just not the evil, Testosterone producing ones. Legalize them, allow Dr’s to more easily prescribe them, and keep the crappy fakes/dangerous stuff to a minimum by doing so. Quality control. The people who will abuse them are probably already abusing them as we speak.[/quote]
Great post.
I’m not a steroid user at all.
However,it does not mean I am not permitted to express my opinion. It’s about the PRINCIBLE. They even banned prohormones,such as MAG-10.
I’ve never seen anyone drop dead taking it. Oh,but little girls can take birth control pills.
[quote]vandalay15 wrote:
I_am_here wrote:
Drink driving is illegal yet plenty of people die from it, if it was illegal though, wouldn’t the figures be much higher?
Most people obey the laws but you’ll get the 5% that dont. If you were to allow drink driving to be legal, I am sure it will just be opening the floodgate.
Dude, that really has nothing to do with anything. Why didn’t you just substitute drunk driving with murder for an example?
And steroids should absolutely be legal. [/quote]
It has everything to do with it.
He is simply denoting the fact the it is MORE dangerous than consuming steroids. Drunk driving isn’t murder,but it CAN be. Do you even know how many innocent people and children die due to drunk drivers every year?
Sure I could take a machine gun and shoot whatever is in front of me. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be someone front of me.
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
It is true that any banning by the government on things usually doesn’t work. Wasn’t for a time alcohol banned in our history. It was an amendment or something. Look at today, beer companies are so rich that they can afford to take up most of the commercials in the Super Bowl.[/quote]
Yeah,but it didn’t work.
With all the lobbyists today,I highly doubt they’ll ever band alcohol again.
[quote]biggchris wrote:
The best damn news story ever to hit primetime! Hope this helps.
BiggChris[/quote]
Thank you for those clips.
I wish this country was more libertarian.
Yes , all drugs should be legal. The only way around the problem would be to offer free medical care
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
vandalay15 wrote:
I_am_here wrote:
Drink driving is illegal yet plenty of people die from it, if it was illegal though, wouldn’t the figures be much higher?
Most people obey the laws but you’ll get the 5% that dont. If you were to allow drink driving to be legal, I am sure it will just be opening the floodgate.
Dude, that really has nothing to do with anything. Why didn’t you just substitute drunk driving with murder for an example?
And steroids should absolutely be legal.
It has everything to do with it.
He is simply denoting the fact the it is MORE dangerous than consuming steroids. Drunk driving isn’t murder,but it CAN be. Do you even know how many innocent people and children die due to drunk drivers every year?
Sure I could take a machine gun and shoot whatever is in front of me. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be someone front of me.[/quote]
He said that drunk driving is illegal and kills many, but if it were legal there would be many more deaths because of drunk. How does that relate to the original topic?
Drunk driving is terrible, I think we can all agree on that. Drunk driving, like murder, should remain illegal because they are awful things.
[quote]vandalay15 wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
vandalay15 wrote:
I_am_here wrote:
Drink driving is illegal yet plenty of people die from it, if it was illegal though, wouldn’t the figures be much higher?
Most people obey the laws but you’ll get the 5% that dont. If you were to allow drink driving to be legal, I am sure it will just be opening the floodgate.
Dude, that really has nothing to do with anything. Why didn’t you just substitute drunk driving with murder for an example?
And steroids should absolutely be legal.
It has everything to do with it.
He is simply denoting the fact the it is MORE dangerous than consuming steroids. Drunk driving isn’t murder,but it CAN be. Do you even know how many innocent people and children die due to drunk drivers every year?
Sure I could take a machine gun and shoot whatever is in front of me. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be someone front of me.
He said that drunk driving is illegal and kills many, but if it were legal there would be many more deaths because of drunk. How does that relate to the original topic?
Drunk driving is terrible, I think we can all agree on that. Drunk driving, like murder, should remain illegal because they are awful things. [/quote]
How does him saying that if drunk driving were legal,more people would die have anything to do with steroids being legalized? What,because if steroids were legal more people would die?
Well,guess what.
There aren’t any studies showing that anyone died from taking steroids. It’s a indisputable fact. There is a huge difference between steroid use and steroid abuse as is there between drinking alcohol and getting drunk. Once again,my statements are well validated.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
vandalay15 wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
vandalay15 wrote:
I_am_here wrote:
Drink driving is illegal yet plenty of people die from it, if it was illegal though, wouldn’t the figures be much higher?
Most people obey the laws but you’ll get the 5% that dont. If you were to allow drink driving to be legal, I am sure it will just be opening the floodgate.
Dude, that really has nothing to do with anything. Why didn’t you just substitute drunk driving with murder for an example?
And steroids should absolutely be legal.
It has everything to do with it.
He is simply denoting the fact the it is MORE dangerous than consuming steroids. Drunk driving isn’t murder,but it CAN be. Do you even know how many innocent people and children die due to drunk drivers every year?
Sure I could take a machine gun and shoot whatever is in front of me. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be someone front of me.
He said that drunk driving is illegal and kills many, but if it were legal there would be many more deaths because of drunk. How does that relate to the original topic?
Drunk driving is terrible, I think we can all agree on that. Drunk driving, like murder, should remain illegal because they are awful things.
How does him saying that if drunk driving were legal,more people would die have anything to do with steroids being legalized? What,because if steroids were legal more people would die?
Well,guess what.
There aren’t any studies showing that anyone died from taking steroids. It’s a indisputable fact. There is a huge difference between steroid use and steroid abuse as is there between drinking alcohol and getting drunk. Once again,my statements are well validated. [/quote]
I’m honestly confused as to what you are trying to say, so I will just state how I feel on the subject.
I have no issue with steroids. I have never taken them, but many of my training partners do. I will use steroids myself within the next few months, once I am fully recovered from shoulder surgery.
So what is your position? Do you think steroids should remain illegal? Because like you mentioned, there are no studies showing anyone died from steroids. And how would you define abuse? Because there are many lifters who have taken steroids continuously for many years, using large doses near a meet or contest, with no fatal consequences. And the doses used would most likely be considered “abusive” by any studies conducted.
Can I please rant for a second aout alcohol?
I used to work in restaurants and would get off 12:00AM or a little later. What if I wanted a drink? I had to go to a bar because they serve alcohol until 1:30, but I can only buy alcohol, beer, wine up to 12:00AM at a store to take home with me.
Sounds almost like they want people to drink and drive. Why is the limit on purchase hours not opposite? Doesnt it make more sense?
And yes, I think steroids should be like any other prescription medication, administered under supervision and legal.
I think it is too toxic to turn loose like alcohol. Not saying alocohol is less toxic, or anything of the nature, but juice shold be legal.
[quote]vandalay15 wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
vandalay15 wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
vandalay15 wrote:
I_am_here wrote:
Drink driving is illegal yet plenty of people die from it, if it was illegal though, wouldn’t the figures be much higher?
Most people obey the laws but you’ll get the 5% that dont. If you were to allow drink driving to be legal, I am sure it will just be opening the floodgate.
Dude, that really has nothing to do with anything. Why didn’t you just substitute drunk driving with murder for an example?
And steroids should absolutely be legal.
It has everything to do with it.
He is simply denoting the fact the it is MORE dangerous than consuming steroids. Drunk driving isn’t murder,but it CAN be. Do you even know how many innocent people and children die due to drunk drivers every year?
Sure I could take a machine gun and shoot whatever is in front of me. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be someone front of me.
He said that drunk driving is illegal and kills many, but if it were legal there would be many more deaths because of drunk. How does that relate to the original topic?
Drunk driving is terrible, I think we can all agree on that. Drunk driving, like murder, should remain illegal because they are awful things.
How does him saying that if drunk driving were legal,more people would die have anything to do with steroids being legalized? What,because if steroids were legal more people would die?
Well,guess what.
There aren’t any studies showing that anyone died from taking steroids. It’s a indisputable fact. There is a huge difference between steroid use and steroid abuse as is there between drinking alcohol and getting drunk. Once again,my statements are well validated.
I’m honestly confused as to what you are trying to say, so I will just state how I feel on the subject.
I have no issue with steroids. I have never taken them, but many of my training partners do. I will use steroids myself within the next few months, once I am fully recovered from shoulder surgery.
So what is your position? Do you think steroids should remain illegal? Because like you mentioned, there are no studies showing anyone died from steroids. And how would you define abuse? Because there are many lifters who have taken steroids continuously for many years, using large doses near a meet or contest, with no fatal consequences. And the doses used would most likely be considered “abusive” by any studies conducted.[/quote]
I myself don’t use steroids.
However,I wouldn’t unless I felt that I had reached my genetic potential.
A few cycles of MAG-10 is probably the closest I’ll ever come to steroids,for now. I really don’t think I want to go past 260 or maybe 270 anyway. The problem is,many kids,who know nothing whatsoever about nutrition and working out start using and abusing steroids and end up with liver damage,and other health problems,thus creating a perfect example for our government,so they can ban them more easily.
I’m not talking about an athlete/body builder using steroids for a long period. That is their choice. I define abuse as taking something when you know nothing about it,thinking that you can take a short cut and use too much; when you form an addiction from it, due to your lack of knowledge and poor results which are found to be unsatisfactory.
Many kids who don’t know anything about putting on muscle become addicted to steroids because they can never be satisfied with their bodies. They think they’ve reached their “genetic potential” at 160 pounds,when they could easily gain more just by eating more food and working out harder.
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Can I please rant for a second aout alcohol?
I used to work in restaurants and would get off 12:00AM or a little later. What if I wanted a drink? I had to go to a bar because they serve alcohol until 1:30, but I can only buy alcohol, beer, wine up to 12:00AM at a store to take home with me.
Sounds almost like they want people to drink and drive. Why is the limit on purchase hours not opposite? Doesnt it make more sense?
And yes, I think steroids should be like any other prescription medication, administered under supervision and legal.
I think it is too toxic to turn loose like alcohol. Not saying alocohol is less toxic, or anything of the nature, but juice shold be legal.
[/quote]
Exactly.
If they were administered under supervision and care,from someone who knew what they were doing, then it shouldn’t matter. I do believe that steroids are unnatural and that I really wouldn’t use them unless I felt that I had to. But it’s about the principle.
Our government is banning every effective supplement under the sun with NO scientific evidence to back up their unfounded “assumptions”.
And the sad thing is they actually get away with this and brainwash the public into thinking that steroids are an evil menace to society. And their drugs that they pass and kill thousands of people aren’t?
[quote]Avoids Roids wrote:
If certain types of fat can be deemed illegal, steroids have no chance of ever being legalized, no matter how logical the argument.
Hell, I had to fill out a form with all sorts of personal information and sign it at the local CVS pharmacy just to but one box of Bronkaid for my wife yesterday.
The bigger question is what will become illegal tomorrow.[/quote]
Ain’t that the sad truth.
Cthulhu
Except that AAS aren’t really physiologically or psychologically addictive in a clinical sense. But I see your point, and it’s a good one.