Should PL Be Mainstream or Underground?

hahahaha…I just had a thought

how about a powerlifting based reality show . maybe have a group of guys all living in the same house ; setting up alliances to get the d-bags ousted ; positioning themselves to bang the milf next door ; fighting over supplements ; maybe even a chase scene after a run to the Mexican border…

THAT would get people interested

jk

[quote]marlboroman wrote:
hahahaha…I just had a thought

how about a powerlifting based reality show . maybe have a group of guys all living in the same house ; setting up alliances to get the d-bags ousted ; positioning themselves to bang the milf next door ; fighting over supplements ; maybe even a chase scene after a run to the Mexican border…

THAT would get people interested

jk[/quote]

There would have to be eating and farting contests.

Powerlifting needs to remain underground and out of mainstream TV. If it doesnt, then I belive that it will turn into all the other sports, and we will have nothing to call our own.

And there will be even longer lines on the bench press on monday mornings.

Well, I have never had that problem :smiley:

bench pressing can’t get more popular,

Olympic Weightlifting is “mainstream” but it still shares an underground reputation similar to powerlifting. It’s not going to change much. The general public is not particularly interested in strength sports.

[quote]Invictica wrote:
Olympic Weightlifting is “mainstream” but it still shares an underground reputation similar to powerlifting. It’s not going to change much. The general public is not particularly interested in strength sports.[/quote]

it’s not that marketable and its hard to imitate which is how we arrive at the first point.

i figure, if you can’t make a decent video game out of something, it cant ever be popular.

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Powerlifting or Bench comps?[/quote]

LOL!

I can see how it can be called boring, in my opinion it gets boring because of all the people in competitions pushing weight that is not that heavy. Im not trying to talk shit on that because everyone has a right to compete and I think its awesome to have a lot of people doing it. But when some 30 year old guy gets “TNT” shaved into the back of his head to barely squat 405 with a suit? I have actually seen this, thats sub par at best. If a powerlifting competition were on TV it would have to be a small group of top competetors who are smashing weight. When im at a meet and get a string of dudes squatting over 800 and just lifting heavy weights thats not boring.

It would have to be something like the WPC Worlds and even then they would have to limit it to showing 220 and up guys

[quote]weightHERO wrote:
I can see how it can be called boring, in my opinion it gets boring because of all the people in competitions pushing weight that is not that heavy. Im not trying to talk shit on that because everyone has a right to compete and I think its awesome to have a lot of people doing it. But when some 30 year old guy gets “TNT” shaved into the back of his head to barely squat 405 with a suit? I have actually seen this, thats sub par at best. If a powerlifting competition were on TV it would have to be a small group of top competetors who are smashing weight. When im at a meet and get a string of dudes squatting over 800 and just lifting heavy weights thats not boring.[/quote]

I actually agree with this. I completely respect anyone that gets on the platform, but I don’t have to be “excited” by their lifting, and at most meets I’m not!!

[quote]elih8er wrote:
tom8658 wrote:
elih8er wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
elih8er wrote:
If it were to become more popular it would need to lose the gear.

I don’t think this will happen because powerlifting companies are major sponsors of meets throughout the USA. Lifters love getting free giveaways at selected meets. Also, several meet directors need companies to help lower their own meet expenses.

If there was ever a large push to make it an Olympic sport it would have to.

Why?
They have forbade prosthetics from use in sprinting. There are already numerous regulations in Oly weightlifting regarding attire and supportive “gear”. Apparel in other sports is already highly regulated, where the possibility of apparel giving competitors an unfair advantage. Take swimming for example–there are brands of suits which have been banned from competition from allegations of lower friction co-efficients, greater buoyancy, etc. Nike and Speedo were each lobbying to ban the other from competition, so there would be only one acceptable suit (I do not know all the details…). The same complications would arise if powerlifting was ever introduced.

Also, this is all highly hypothetical because the likelihood of powerlifting being introduced is low, because globally, especially in Asia, weightlifting is more popular. [/quote]

Let’s not forget that the Olympics are also pretty heavily-regulated as far as the display of “logos” goes, even down to lifters having to stick huge chunks of duck tape over the three stripes running down the side of their suit.

Powerlifting is not entertaining to watch.

no entertainment = no TV = no sponsors = no $$$

[quote]ninearms wrote:

Let’s not forget that the Olympics are also pretty heavily-regulated as far as the display of “logos” goes, even down to lifters having to stick huge chunks of duck tape over the three stripes running down the side of their suit.[/quote]
That too. It is always strange to see tape all over a lifter’s suit.

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Powerlifting or Bench comps?[/quote]

I hardly ever post here, but I felt compelled to take the time to log in to tell you that you Hanley, are fucking awesome.

[quote]Samsuperjew wrote:
Hanley wrote:
Powerlifting or Bench comps?

I hardly ever post here, but I felt compelled to take the time to log in to tell you that you Hanley, are fucking awesome. [/quote]

Sarcasm or not, I’m taking it how I wanna take it, so thanks!!!

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Powerlifting is not entertaining to watch.

no entertainment = no TV = no sponsors = no $$$[/quote]

We’ll have to have all powerlifters ride down an aisle with a motorcycle and pyrotechnics along the aisle for each and every attempt. Every powerlifter will have to have a stage name of course.

[quote]AverageGuy wrote:
Steel Nation wrote:
Powerlifting is not entertaining to watch.

no entertainment = no TV = no sponsors = no $$$

We’ll have to have all powerlifters ride down an aisle with a motorcycle and pyrotechnics along the aisle for each and every attempt. Every powerlifter will have to have a stage name of course.
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Now we’re talkin.

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Powerlifting is not entertaining to watch.

no entertainment = no TV = no sponsors = no $$$[/quote]

Interesting point!

How would you make powerlifting competitions more entertaining to watch on tv?

[quote]NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Steel Nation wrote:
Powerlifting is not entertaining to watch.

no entertainment = no TV = no sponsors = no $$$

Interesting point!

How would you make powerlifting competitions more entertaining to watch on tv?
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I don’t know. It’s tough because the nature of the sport is essentially a bunch of guys doing the same thing over and over again. I guess you could say that about a lot of sports, but at least in golf or pool there is some uncertainty. If anything people would watch to see the athletes get hurt (similar to NASCAR and the crashes).

I guess NASCAR is kinda proof that it is possible for it to be popular. That shit is boring as fuck and it’s one of the biggest sports in the world.

I guess for starters I would limit gear to single ply briefs, belts, knee sleeves, and wrist wraps for squatting, belts and wrist wraps for bench, and briefs and belts for deads. You would also need some kind of standardization for the brief support, where it couldn’t exceed a certain stiffness or something. Same with wraps too I guess.

Next you’d need more than 3 events. I’d add the standing press and maybe one or two more things. Maybe a DB Snatch and Pullup or something. Weird but WTF that’s all I can think of. I’d also limit attempts to one per competitor. This makes it alot more suspenseful when you only have one shot to make it or break it. Can’t be too heavy or you’ll miss and can’t be too light. It also eliminates the boredom of watching everyone do everything 3 fucking times.

There also has to be a definitive way to determine if a deadlift is locked out or if a squat is parallel or if a bench is good. The judging thing will be a big problem so this has to be fixed. Without tons of gear it should make it easier but I’ve still seen horrible judging at raw meets so you can’t be too careful here. I’d like to see technology get involved. Technology is sweet.

Pageantry could be cool. Like introduciing the guys and having their music playing or something. Nothing crazy but kinda like boxing and mma.

Another problem as I see it is that you don’t have all the best guys together lifting at the same meets. Since there is no money involved and travel is expensive I can’t blame them but at the same time you can’t have good competition this way.

Another problem is that there are too many divisions. People don’t want to watch a 200 lb guy do something when a 300 lb guy can do the same thing better. Just like there are weight classes in strongman but the WSM doesn’t have any, because nobody cares if little guys are strong “for their size.” But then the fact that the superheavies are freaking obese for the most part doesn’t help marketing any either.

Also maybe not go by total but instead by points, like first place in a lift gets 10 pts, second gets 8 or 9, etc. Like WSM.

Having a women’s division could help if they were attractive, like in tennis. Otherwise nobody cares, like the WNBA.

I know this is rambling nonsense but it’s not an easy solution to figure out. WSM is the model to follow though, IMO.

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Samsuperjew wrote:
Hanley wrote:
Powerlifting or Bench comps?

I hardly ever post here, but I felt compelled to take the time to log in to tell you that you Hanley, are fucking awesome.

Sarcasm or not, I’m taking it how I wanna take it, so thanks!!![/quote]
No sarcasm, lol