[quote]truthandlife wrote:
SUPER-T wrote:
I am 28 and had open heart surguryin feb 08 to replace a heart valve everything is healed now and i have gotten back in the gym i have not worked out in about 6 years and i am really pumped to be back i am not big but not puny
Ask Arnold if he would have “juiced” again. I wouldn’t risk it one bit. [/quote]
STFU
Go home. Unless you plan to explain the nonsense you’ve just uttered.
[quote]superalpha wrote:
hey, welsh boy, you seem to be antagonistic where ever i see you.[/quote]
No ones stopping you from closing your eyes.
[quote]SUPER-T wrote:
I am 28 and had open heart surguryin feb 08 to replace a heart valve everything is healed now and i have gotten back in the gym i have not worked out in about 6 years and i am really pumped to be back i am not big but not puny
either my max bench is around 200 my sternum starts to hurt if i go any higher i also have low t probaly from taking tribulus and dhea in the past either that or my nuts are lazy any way i have been reading everything i can find on here and other places about steroids but wanted to get opinions of vets about what i should do
i dont want anything extreme i thought about just doing test cyp and nothing else except anti est please any advice would help i will post a pic on my profile tomorrow also advice on dosage i was thinking 1 cc a week but not sure[/quote]
Out of curiosity, why did you have to get the valve replaced? You should know before you cycle that AAS has been know to thicken the ventricular walls. Left ventricular hypertrophy has been linked to an increased risk of heart attack. While the risks aren’t great, they are probably aggravated for someone who has undergone open heart surgery.
Also, if you have trouble with cholesterol, AAS is likely to reduce HDL cholesterol with an offsetting increase in LDL cholesterol. LDL cholesterol is the bad one.
[quote]leonidas4 wrote:
SUPER-T wrote:
I am 28 and had open heart surguryin feb 08 to replace a heart valve everything is healed now and i have gotten back in the gym i have not worked out in about 6 years and i am really pumped to be back i am not big but not puny
either my max bench is around 200 my sternum starts to hurt if i go any higher i also have low t probaly from taking tribulus and dhea in the past either that or my nuts are lazy any way i have been reading everything i can find on here and other places about steroids but wanted to get opinions of vets about what i should do
i dont want anything extreme i thought about just doing test cyp and nothing else except anti est please any advice would help i will post a pic on my profile tomorrow also advice on dosage i was thinking 1 cc a week but not sure
Out of curiosity, why did you have to get the valve replaced? You should know before you cycle that AAS has been know to thicken the ventricular walls.
Left ventricular hypertrophy has been linked to an increased risk of heart attack. While the risks aren’t great, they are probably aggravated for someone who has undergone open heart surgery. Also, if you have trouble with cholesterol, AAS is likely to reduce HDL cholesterol with an offsetting increase in LDL cholesterol. LDL cholesterol is the bad one.[/quote]
So far the concensus has been that the OP is not ready for a cycle of AAS.
TRT is much different though. Low testosterone levels also have a negative effect on cholesterol (I think) and a whole bunch of other things as well.
The only reason I am mentioning this is because it seems that (in this thread at least) people are seeing the words testosterone injections and automatically assuming the OP is going to inject supraphisological levels. I did not make this post to undermine your opinions or questions.
hey, take it easy its not that serious
i had the surgury to replace my aortic valve.It was not closing right and i was getting about 20% of the blood flow i should have. It might be worth mentioning i have no blocked or bad arteries and im not wanting to look like arnold or coleman. I just want to get on the high side of noraml look good naked and be able to hump like a rabbit again
[quote] Brook wrote:
7 posts and 8 posts and you are flaming one of the vets of the site.
GTFO.[/quote]
who are u talking to you anyway? me, what have i said to piss anyone off i just wanted to get some advice not start a fued is this how every new guy gets treated
This is serious for someone who has been under the knife for open heart surgery.
I agree with what you are saying Bonez, assuming he’s just at TRT levels he will be fine. If he goes with supra physiological levels then he could experience some problems. The more I think about it, the larger risk for Super-T is overproduction of red blood cells which would thicken his blood and result in more stress on the valve. That can occur at TRT levels, but the risk associated with the increase in hemocrit isn’t as likely.
The bottom line is that Super T needs to do his research and understand the benefits / risks with a lot of attention to his situation (medical history, diet, lifestyle).
[quote]SUPER-T wrote:
Brook wrote:
7 posts and 8 posts and you are flaming one of the vets of the site.
GTFO.
who are u talking to you anyway? me, what have i said to piss anyone off i just wanted to get some advice not start a fued is this how every new guy gets treated[/quote]
He wasn’t talking to you, he was talking to that SuperAlpha person. And it took me a minute to even figure out who Welshy was? And he is hardly antagonistic…
Anyway, you have been treated poorly. You have been given advice and suggestions on where to get further information. It has been suggested quite clearly why a cycle isn’t for you. Both due to the point you are in your training as well as possible complications due to your surgery. At this point, things are just beginning to repeat themselves.
And, as an aside, I second what BBB said. You obviously want an intelligent discussion on this topic, so please, please, make use of the caps key and the spell check. Effort on you part shows people you are serious. And really, typing “you” instead of “u” isn’t much to ask.
O.K. I was just making sure I did not offend anyone, as that is not why I am here. To clear things up I only want TRT, I dont want supra phisiological levels. I just want to be on the upper end of normal and did not want to shell out the money on anti aging docs because they can get up to $250 a month in Atlanta GA.
And I thought 1 cc of test cyp a week would be OK. I did get androgel from my doc but I have heard it wont raise me that much and he will do periodical blood tests so I thought I could use those results to adjust the injections.
my advice is 1st get a biosignature…with the results, they will get you on a protocol of nutrition and training.
with a lot of work, good nutrition and the right plan(what works for me may not works for you), you will succeed.
[quote]SUPER-T wrote:
O.K. I was just making sure I did not offend anyone, as that is not why I am here. To clear things up I only want TRT, I dont want supra phisiological levels. I just want to be on the upper end of normal and did not want to shell out the money on anti aging docs because they can get up to $250 a month in Atlanta GA.
And I thought 1 cc of test cyp a week would be OK. I did get androgel from my doc but I have heard it wont raise me that much and he will do periodical blood tests so I thought I could use those results to adjust the injections.[/quote]
Given your medical history, I’m glad to see that you sided with TRT rather than a cycle. Your natural test levels are very low. I think that you will notice a world of difference with T levels on the higher end of normal if you are patient with it and adjust your dosage as needed.
Put forth the effort in finding a doc who knows what they are doing and will, at the very least, test and treat you for E2.
Go to the over 35 forum and read, read, read. There will be almost no need to start a new thread with the amount of information that is available to you with the search function. Check out www.allthingsmale.com and read everything on the site.
BTW, cost is not much of an issue, especially if you and your doc are open to injections. The average script of test, adex and HCG can be bought out of pocket for around $60/month I think. Good luck.
Caged
Thanks for the input. I checked out allthingsmale lastnight and I am seriously thinking about making an apt with him. The only thing is the first visit I think has to be in person do you know if this is true? If it is I guess a road trip is in my future.
I’m on TRT myself but with Testim. If you want to get your levels higher start taking dessicated liver. Brought my levels from 371 to 1422 in under 30 days. The TRT’s like Testim and Androgel are pretty weak in all honesty. If your in the 100 range (i started out in the mid 200’s when i was put on TRT) then dessicated liver might help out.
[quote]SUPER-T wrote:
Caged
Thanks for the input. I checked out allthingsmale lastnight and I am seriously thinking about making an apt with him. The only thing is the first visit I think has to be in person do you know if this is true? If it is I guess a road trip is in my future.[/quote]
If you wish to be treated by him, then yes, I believe you need to meet with him in person. Dr. John offers consultations on how to administer HRT to other docs if your current physician is up for it. I think this would be the only way around making the trip up north.
I am fortunate to live about an hour away from his office so it was a no-brainer for me.