First off, a little about me. 23 yo, 5’10, around 155 lbs. Running my first cycle- 500mg test/wk and 30 mg dbol on workout days. Been running this for 3 weeks now. Lift usually 5 or 6 days a week.
Pros: Broke past the weight I had been stuck at (156.5) to about 158.5. Strength has increased, though nothing crazy. More vascular and better pumps, but comparable to what I got on my last PH cycle (Blackjack)
Cons: Signs of Gyno (sore, puffy nipples, small amounts of discharge when I squeeze). Lack of sex drive/difficult to get an erection (Been staying most nights with a female friend, haven’t had sex once even though shes come on to me several times). Also noticing a huge drop in sperm count on the couple occasions I’ve masturbated.
It seems to me like the negatives are out weighing the positives at this point. The results I’m getting are nothing like I expected. I started taking 20 mg of Nolva a day this week, hoping to help with the gyno signs. Should I come off cycle all together and start my PCT, or is there something I can do to fix the problems I’m having, while staying on cycle??
Sorry if any of this is too much information. I’d really appreciate any helpful replies and advice.
No Ai when you started huh? I dont know if the nolva will stop your gyno. Other bros on here can chime in on that. But milky man boobs and no sex drive is no good. Its only been 3 weeks so you havent wasted a ton of juice. IMO stop fix your gyno do PCT get your nuts & dick back to functional status…Then do much much more reseach and plan your cycle out better…Sell your shit to someone who needs it
Youre 23 so why cycle anyhow?
a good beginner cycle would have just been 500mg test per week .25 arimedex/anistrozle EOD (adjust if needed) possibly HCG to keep balls from turning to raisens and nolva on hand in case bitch tits show up…
My advice is your young unless you need extra muscle to make a shit ton of money…wait till your mid to late 30’s
Also how do you know your sperm count is down did you put your jizz on a microspope?
First off, a little about me. 23 yo, 5’10, around 155 lbs. Running my first cycle- 500mg test/wk and 30 mg dbol on workout days. Been running this for 3 weeks now. Lift usually 5 or 6 days a week.
Pros: Broke past the weight I had been stuck at (156.5) to about 158.5. Strength has increased, though nothing crazy. More vascular and better pumps, but comparable to what I got on my last PH cycle (Blackjack)
Cons: Signs of Gyno (sore, puffy nipples, small amounts of discharge when I squeeze). Lack of sex drive/difficult to get an erection (Been staying most nights with a female friend, haven’t had sex once even though shes come on to me several times). Also noticing a huge drop in sperm count on the couple occasions I’ve masturbated.
It seems to me like the negatives are out weighing the positives at this point. The results I’m getting are nothing like I expected. I started taking 20 mg of Nolva a day this week, hoping to help with the gyno signs. Should I come off cycle all together and start my PCT, or is there something I can do to fix the problems I’m having, while staying on cycle??
Sorry if any of this is too much information. I’d really appreciate any helpful replies and advice.[/quote]
Get blood work done ASAP. If you’re in the US you can get it for $50.
I doubt you’re pinning test based on your symptoms. Never heard of someone going limp from a test + dbol cycle.
limp dick, lack of labido, gyno and not taking any AI… pretty clearly sounds like high estrogen… get on an AI immediately and 20 nolva per day until gyno stops. you already started the cycle so might as well finish it at this point. just make sure you get an AI and blood work (private med labs female hormone panel) and do some fucking research. not caring about your health is one thing but if you want results you can’t afford to be a dumbass. RESEARCH.
btw discharge when squeezed is an early sign of gyno. you can squeeze and if a little comes out it shows that fluid is accumulating in the growing tissue. it’s not the same fluid as lactation.
[quote]joyfull wrote:
btw discharge when squeezed is an early sign of gyno. you can squeeze and if a little comes out it shows that fluid is accumulating in the growing tissue. it’s not the same fluid as lactation. [/quote]
that, I did not know. I thought discharge was always prolactin related. Interesting…
i don’t think this is simply an estrogen issue… if it was, he’d be carrying a shitload of water from the estrogen and would have gained more than 2 freakin’ pounds.
most likely something else is up… like has been mentioned before, this looks like progestin-based side effects, and with such small gains in weight, i suspect something else is up here…
OP, you need to get blood work to figure this out, but you might have gotten scammed.
This is why you really need to research out your sources.
Labelled Test but it’s really deca.
OP - you could also try and order a bottle of test from a different source (get prop) and see if it adding it in alleviates this issue. Though there is the potential this could exacerbate the problem.
it definitely does sounds like deca, but why would a UGL sell deca instead of test? The raws for deca are more expensive than test, so what would be the point?
It’s all very strange. Really just need to get some bloodwork done.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
it definitely does sounds like deca, but why would a UGL sell deca instead of test? The raws for deca are more expensive than test, so what would be the point?
[quote]Yogi wrote:
it definitely does sounds like deca, but why would a UGL sell deca instead of test? The raws for deca are more expensive than test, so what would be the point?
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Not on purpose but due to incompetence[/quote]
yeah, I guess shit could just get mislabled or something