Finished Cycle, Worries about Low T and Gyno

Hey all. I’m a newbie at all this. I apologize if this runs long but please bare with me. Fell free to chew my ass about mistakes I made, but please try to add a little advice In there too.

First of all, I’m a 19 year old male that currently weighs 150lbs. I recently finished a Test-E cycle of 250mg/week for 5 weeks, then 500mg/week for another 5 weeks. During the cycle, I gained 30lbs give or take, while maintaining a body fat percentage of around 8%. I’m happy with my results, but now I’m stressing about what comes next.

I had a bottle of what I thought was Nolvadex on hand for my PCT, but it wasn’t until after I finished my cycle that I realized it was actually Liquidex, a aromatase inhibitor that will not work for my PCT. It has been over 4 weeks from my last shot. I’ve been scrambling trying to find Nolvadex in that time, but three places I ordered from scammed me. I was finally able to find a reliable source today, but it won’t get here for another week.

The main concerns I have right now are dangerously low testosterone, and of course, gynecomastia. I feel like shit y’all. Like I’m on a woman’s period with mood swings and depression. As far as bitch tits go, I haven’t noticed anything out of the ordinary yet. With gains lost, I have lost 5 pounds although I have been dieting well and training 4 days a week.

My main questions for those more experienced than me are these:

  1. Should I be concerned about my long term health since it has been so long without PCT?

  2. Are the mood swings I’ve been experiencing all in my head, or are they a result of low testosterone/high estrogen?

  3. Since it has been so long without PCT, will nolvadex be sufficient, or should I consider stacking it with clomid or other supplements?

  4. Basically I want to know if I’m as screwed as I think I am or will it be fine to start my PCT in a week (5 weeks after my last Test dose).

Thanks guys, I appreciate whatever advice/criticism you can offer.

For quality reasons, I’ve provided a screenshot of the product I ordered, please let me know if I should look elsewhere.

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Thanks for sharing. Mood swings aren’t fun. Lots of people here will give you feedback. Welcome. People are cool here, welcome. My suggestion is read and read some more and then like you’re doing accept you need guidance and don’t forget videos, trainers or coaches to get proper form. However, I know nothing about your supps. But wish you luck :hugs:

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4 weeks past the first shot is roughly when you should be starting PCT anyway. Most people here start PCT 2 weeks after their last shot of Test ENANTHATE not realising that there is still suppressive levels of AAS floating around. Then they finish PCT when around the time they should be starting and there we have a failed PCT.

I firmly believe in the test taper method when coming off (I’m on TRT) which includes a 6-week ‘stasis period’ after your last shot of any long esters such as enanthate to allow clearance from the blood. In this period he advocates the use of a short ester such as test prop, I wouldn’t recommend this for you now but you should be in a good position to start PCT now.

SB

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Thanks man, your knowledge is appreciated. It’s good to have experienced people tell me things like this. As for my bitchy mood? Is this to be expected?

It could be a combination of low test and a mental aspect of knowing you haven’t done PCT, but yes it is usually expected when coming off gear. You cannot expect to feel normal going from supraphysiological levels of testosterone to none, this is why I dislike the standard cold-turkey to PCT approach.

You wont have high oestrogen if your test is low, in men oestrogen comes from the conversion of testosterone so if there is no testosterone to convert there will be no oestrogen.

SB

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Thanks again man

You went on gear at 19 years old weighing 120 pounds? Do you understand the possibly permanent consequences of your choice? Not chewing you out, just wondering.

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You’re good man. Which effects are you talking about? Low test or something else?

There are quite a few possible side effects, I think at your age I’d be worried about low T and erectile dysfunction. Were you aware beforehand that taking steroids at such a young age is a bad thing? There can be one-in-a-million circumstances that are the exception to this rule, but unless you had low test levels beforehand (don’t know in your case) or were already nearing your genetic potential (virtually impossible at 120lb) you probably don’t fit the bill. Is test all you took? Did you have an AI or HCG? Do you ever want kids? At your age and weight I think gaining 30 lbs on any number of programs with proper lifting and progression would be pretty straightforward without test.

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Thanks for the advice. Here’s the answers to your questions:

-I was not aware of any long term side effects as long as I was responsible with my dosage

-Test is all I took, with the exception of D-bol for like a week

-I don’t know what AI or HCG is so I doubt I took them :joy:

-No I don’t want kids

your an idiot. . .

*you’re.

Irony.

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Irony, stupid kid weighs 150lbs(started at 120 LMAO), doesn’t know what ai is, crying because he has fucked himself up and has a “bitchy mood” but can take the time to fix a contraction error by someone.
Buck up Kiddo, clean your room.

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What’s the point of taking time out of your day to answer my thread with a poorly constructed insult rather than advice, when I clearly indicated that I was new at this? Is your masculinity that fragile? Buck up old man, go home to your ugly wife

Question: who helped you construct this cycle?

Question: why did you take dbol for a week?

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Answers:

  • A brother of a friend. He claimed he knew what he was doing, I was dumb enough to believe him

  • He had a weeks worth of supply left that he wasn’t using, I took it without knowing that using it with test could be counterproductive

Well the dbol wouldn’t be counterproductive, it just needs to be run for 4-6wks. You may want to talk to your friend and let him know his brother is a moron. And don’t let him run any cycles designed by his brother. Harm reduction and such.

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