Should I Change My Shoulder Routine?

My delts came along better as soon as I started to feel them more which meant keeping my ego (determination for load) in check and reducing load a little while increasing the reps a little too.

My delt training is still very simple/basic, but with that extra emphasis ^

Most of my training has always centred on lower reps (typically 3-8), but I had to change my view when it came to other muscle groups like legs/back/delts. Not necessarily never going low reps, but supplementing these groups with higher reps too.

A good way I find also to keep the fatigue/tension on the target muscle is rest pause style, or some people super-set exercises. Sometimes, while pushing it to the max, you can get distracted and other muscle groups take over, whereas, if you pause for 15-20 seconds and push ahead again, it keeps you more focussed and fatigues the target muscle better. Just a thought…

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
have you ever seen that pic of Dave Tate all cut up? lol I’d like to look a bit more like that.[/quote]

Yup seen it, assume you want that look but with pecs!

[quote]plateau wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
have you ever seen that pic of Dave Tate all cut up? lol I’d like to look a bit more like that.[/quote]

Yup seen it, assume you want that look but with pecs![/quote]

yes definitely with pecs. to be fair to Dave iirc he has a history of a severe pec tear along with numerous other injuries requiring surgery and much time off. I’m not sure how old he is right now but I’m pretty sure he’s been lifting for longer than I’ve been alive, and I can only hope to continue making progress when I’m that age and do crazy shit like a 3 pps widowmaker squat sesh.

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:

[quote]plateau wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
have you ever seen that pic of Dave Tate all cut up? lol I’d like to look a bit more like that.[/quote]

Yup seen it, assume you want that look but with pecs![/quote]

yes definitely with pecs. to be fair to Dave iirc he has a history of a severe pec tear along with numerous other injuries requiring surgery and much time off. I’m not sure how old he is right now but I’m pretty sure he’s been lifting for longer than I’ve been alive, and I can only hope to continue making progress when I’m that age and do crazy shit like a 3 pps widowmaker squat sesh.[/quote]

My post wasn’t mocking Dave Tate, he’s a legend

[quote]plateau wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:

[quote]plateau wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
have you ever seen that pic of Dave Tate all cut up? lol I’d like to look a bit more like that.[/quote]

Yup seen it, assume you want that look but with pecs![/quote]

yes definitely with pecs. to be fair to Dave iirc he has a history of a severe pec tear along with numerous other injuries requiring surgery and much time off. I’m not sure how old he is right now but I’m pretty sure he’s been lifting for longer than I’ve been alive, and I can only hope to continue making progress when I’m that age and do crazy shit like a 3 pps widowmaker squat sesh.[/quote]

My post wasn’t mocking Dave Tate, he’s a legend[/quote]

lol I knew you weren’t mocking him, I just wanted to make sure it didn’t seem like I was mocking him =p

Do the Shoulder routine DeFranco posted on Youtube awhile back. Worked very well for me. I think its somewhere on this site also.

Start doing standing overhead presses with a bar, then do the other excercises. Dumbell presses did nothing for my shoulder size but when i started doing standing overhead presses i got stronger and my shoulders started growing.

idk, it’s just my opinion but I think the Shoulder Shocker is better off used as a tool for injury prevention, a part of a circuit routine and least of all as a finisher, at least for me. I like to really feel my target muscles working when doing isolation work and there’s just too much going on in the Shoulder Shocker for me to deal with.

I ditched db ohp and kept bb ohp, but I like to do them seated for the same reason as above. when I was doing standing ohp as part of 5/3/1 last winter, eventually I would cheat and they would turn into push presses. I find that I can get the movement down a lot better when I’m seated. that being said, I realize that I’ll have to try other variations as it becomes more difficult to progress.

on that note, some months ago my db ohp had stalled at 55 lb. I was trying to hit 8 reps so I could move up to 60’s but it just wasn’t happening. so, I took a page out of CT’s notebook and did standing one-arm db clean and presses up to 70 lb as part of my “dynamic warmup”. it worked like a charm, I busted out 9 reps that day.

Looks like your front delt is larger than your medial and post delt. In my opinion I would drop the OHP for a few weeks and focus on medial and rear delts…

Since this is the bodybuilding section and not the powerlifting portion.

  • Not knocking the OHP, just giving an opinion, i think the front delt gets plenty of work on chest day. I never do direct front delt work and My shoulders look decent. I OHP from time to time for a measure of strength.