You need to sue this place for small claims. Jut ask them for like $10,000 or something. Have your friend’s lawyer get all the medical documentation and take written statements from all the medical personnel who treated your friend. If his lawyer applies the pressure, you can probably get an out of court settlement.
[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
You need to sue this place for small claims. Jut ask them for like $10,000 or something. Have your friend’s lawyer get all the medical documentation and take written statements from all the medical personnel who treated your friend. If his lawyer applies the pressure, you can probably get an out of court settlement.[/quote]
10 grand isn’t small claims. However, I do agree that he should of asked the golf course for some green to keep their mouths quiet about it. The kids are a known nuisance and they haven’t done anything to correct it. Start throwing around some legal terms like negligence and you never know what you might get…course they could just threaten you back.
My main question is if you are going to go through the hassle of dressing up in goofy expensive clothes, buy clubs, etc. Why wouldn’t you cough up the extra couple of bucks to go to a nice golf course?
Hope your friend is alright though cause that is messed up.
Karma will catch up with those kids, like a semi pancaking their asses to the floor. Too bad you and your friend couldn’t be the driver.
[quote]dday wrote:
Blaze_108 wrote:
I’d say he got shot with a pellet gun. Not quite as lethal as a regular gun, but can still kill you. You work a pump on the stock to increase pressure buildup. I believe pellet guns get the same jail punishment as regular firearms, but don’t quote me on that. Pellet guns DO shoot long pellets around 3x bb size. i don’t know about how they were shooting that quickly, unless they just pumped once between shots, which would lower lethality significantly. Your friend could be dead if he got hit on the first fully pumped shot.
That being said, that’s just ridiculous. Desensitization to violence has its faults, that’s for certain. Too much violence=familiarity with it, to the point where they don’t care about hurting people anymore.
The only thing I can think is it was a CO2 gun, that’s the only way they could have fired as many times as they did, again unless it was some type of firework and they had a real gun.
BTW I could probably have thrown my club far enough but wouldn’t have hit them, there were to many trees between us.
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Some pellet type guns have co2 cartridges. Some also can be fired in bursts or fully auto. I used to have a an m4a1 plastic pellet gun that could fire auto and burst.
[quote]RWElder0 wrote:
And the really fucked up thing is that if you caught them and touched one hair on their heads you would’ve been in jail.
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Fuck that. If I caught them, they would have got the shit beat outta them, I don’t care how young you are.
Henry Rollins is so fuckin HARDCORE
sorry… had to…
[quote]GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
You need to sue this place for small claims. Jut ask them for like $10,000 or something. Have your friend’s lawyer get all the medical documentation and take written statements from all the medical personnel who treated your friend. If his lawyer applies the pressure, you can probably get an out of court settlement.
10 grand isn’t small claims. However, I do agree that he should of asked the golf course for some green to keep their mouths quiet about it. The kids are a known nuisance and they haven’t done anything to correct it. Start throwing around some legal terms like negligence and you never know what you might get…course they could just threaten you back.
My main question is if you are going to go through the hassle of dressing up in goofy expensive clothes, buy clubs, etc. Why wouldn’t you cough up the extra couple of bucks to go to a nice golf course?
Hope your friend is alright though cause that is messed up.[/quote]
I’d rather just cut my losses on the whole deal, I personally wasn’t injured but will stand beside my friend if he chooses to go the legal route. He did talk to the owner about covering his co-pay $100 plus perscriptions costs, something like $150 total, they denied it and said they cannot be held liable for what happened. He’s debating legal action, he’s not sure if it’s worth messing with but I’ll stand by him regardless.
The reason for such a ghetto course was they have 5 courses, 4 of which are considerably further away, they have a kick ass gym on the property that almost no one uses and for $450 a year it was a steal, know I know why.
[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
Henry Rollins is so fuckin HARDCORE
sorry… had to…[/quote]
Rollins is bad ass! Most of his music sucks but he’s really angry and I’d kill to have his neck.
Could of been a paintball gun but using pellets/bb’s instead.
[quote]dday wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
Henry Rollins is so fuckin HARDCORE
sorry… had to…
Rollins is bad ass! Most of his music sucks but he’s really angry and I’d kill to have his neck.[/quote]
If you killed him you could keep his neck as a souvenir
The messed up thing is that if you had a gun and saw a kid pointing a gun at you, you could shoot to defend yourself. A bb gun is considered a lethal weapon, especially if it is technically an air rifle.
Air rifles shoot pellets at 1200 fps + and could penetrate far enough to get yourself killed. It would also be impossible to discern between a bb gun and a rifle (standard) at that distance.
The stupid bastards could hurt someone or get themselves killed.
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Could of been a paintball gun but using pellets/bb’s instead. [/quote]
Negative soldier. The bore diameter of a paintball barrel is much larger than a bb. It couldve been this thing. A BB shooting submachine gun.
Strangely enough, I have one en route to me right now…
[quote]Electric_E wrote:
dday wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
Henry Rollins is so fuckin HARDCORE
sorry… had to…
Rollins is bad ass! Most of his music sucks but he’s really angry and I’d kill to have his neck.
If you killed him you could keep his neck as a souvenir[/quote]
Hadn’t thought of that, I’ll put this on my to do list.
[quote]dday wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
You need to sue this place for small claims. Jut ask them for like $10,000 or something. Have your friend’s lawyer get all the medical documentation and take written statements from all the medical personnel who treated your friend. If his lawyer applies the pressure, you can probably get an out of court settlement.
10 grand isn’t small claims. However, I do agree that he should of asked the golf course for some green to keep their mouths quiet about it. The kids are a known nuisance and they haven’t done anything to correct it. Start throwing around some legal terms like negligence and you never know what you might get…course they could just threaten you back.
My main question is if you are going to go through the hassle of dressing up in goofy expensive clothes, buy clubs, etc. Why wouldn’t you cough up the extra couple of bucks to go to a nice golf course?
Hope your friend is alright though cause that is messed up.
I’d rather just cut my losses on the whole deal, I personally wasn’t injured but will stand beside my friend if he chooses to go the legal route. He did talk to the owner about covering his co-pay $100 plus perscriptions costs, something like $150 total, they denied it and said they cannot be held liable for what happened. He’s debating legal action, he’s not sure if it’s worth messing with but I’ll stand by him regardless.
The reason for such a ghetto course was they have 5 courses, 4 of which are considerably further away, they have a kick ass gym on the property that almost no one uses and for $450 a year it was a steal, know I know why.
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Did you guys sign a waiver before you could use the facilities? You might want to let them know that when they said it was a known problem they could be held liable for negligence. I’m surprised they didn’t pay your friend the $250 for medical expenses. In fact their insurance should of covered everything. Course it all comes down to how willing/capable your friend is to spend a couple hundred/thousand bucks in legal expenses on a small moral crusade. You don’t need a lawyer for small claims court but if you show up without one and the golf place has one you can bet the judge will side with them.
I don’t golf at all but what part of Missouri was this in? I’m in the K.C. area.
Oh have your friend take pictures and document everything just in case he decides to go to court or use it for some leverage.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
The messed up thing is that if you had a gun and saw a kid pointing a gun at you, you could shoot to defend yourself. A bb gun is considered a lethal weapon, especially if it is technically an air rifle.
Air rifles shoot pellets at 1200 fps + and could penetrate far enough to get yourself killed. It would also be impossible to discern between a bb gun and a rifle (standard) at that distance.
The stupid bastards could hurt someone or get themselves killed.[/quote]
Missouri is a conceil carry state, I’m actually glad I’ve been putting off getting my permit, had I been carring that day I could have killed a kid and that would be something that would haunt me the rest of my life. However, it would have been his fault but still.
[quote]GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
dday wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
You need to sue this place for small claims. Jut ask them for like $10,000 or something. Have your friend’s lawyer get all the medical documentation and take written statements from all the medical personnel who treated your friend. If his lawyer applies the pressure, you can probably get an out of court settlement.
10 grand isn’t small claims. However, I do agree that he should of asked the golf course for some green to keep their mouths quiet about it. The kids are a known nuisance and they haven’t done anything to correct it. Start throwing around some legal terms like negligence and you never know what you might get…course they could just threaten you back.
My main question is if you are going to go through the hassle of dressing up in goofy expensive clothes, buy clubs, etc. Why wouldn’t you cough up the extra couple of bucks to go to a nice golf course?
Hope your friend is alright though cause that is messed up.
I’d rather just cut my losses on the whole deal, I personally wasn’t injured but will stand beside my friend if he chooses to go the legal route. He did talk to the owner about covering his co-pay $100 plus perscriptions costs, something like $150 total, they denied it and said they cannot be held liable for what happened. He’s debating legal action, he’s not sure if it’s worth messing with but I’ll stand by him regardless.
The reason for such a ghetto course was they have 5 courses, 4 of which are considerably further away, they have a kick ass gym on the property that almost no one uses and for $450 a year it was a steal, know I know why.
Did you guys sign a waiver before you could use the facilities? You might want to let them know that when they said it was a known problem they could be held liable for negligence. I’m surprised they didn’t pay your friend the $250 for medical expenses. In fact their insurance should of covered everything. Course it all comes down to how willing/capable your friend is to spend a couple hundred/thousand bucks in legal expenses on a small moral crusade. You don’t need a lawyer for small claims court but if you show up without one and the golf place has one you can bet the judge will side with them.
I don’t golf at all but what part of Missouri was this in? I’m in the K.C. area.
Oh have your friend take pictures and document everything just in case he decides to go to court or use it for some leverage.[/quote]
I signed a waiver when I became a member, he was not a member and signed nothing when we played. Like you said it would be nothing more than a moral victory if he chose to go through with anything legal, that’s what he’s trying to waive. We do have the police report and the medical records from the ER, I will tell him to take pictures of the whole and he kept the BB, there should be enough evidence to make a case.
I’m in Lee’s Summit, this happend in Grandview.
Dude… I fucking loved being a total dick of a kid with my BB gun. I had a daisy and me and a friend went to a local school, shot out some bus windows. Then we get to a huge window on the school. Pumped that sucker up about 30 times and watched the handiwork of safety glass make some awesome web of cracked glass 10 feet high.
Like I said, I was a kid and I know it was dickish, but it was fun.
That said, what the fuck is wrong with kids who want to shoot people or fucking animals??! All I ever did in the woods was smoke pot, chug 'tussin, and look at stolen porn mags. Shooting people just ain’t normal behavior!
[quote]dday wrote:
tom63 wrote:
The messed up thing is that if you had a gun and saw a kid pointing a gun at you, you could shoot to defend yourself. A bb gun is considered a lethal weapon, especially if it is technically an air rifle.
Air rifles shoot pellets at 1200 fps + and could penetrate far enough to get yourself killed. It would also be impossible to discern between a bb gun and a rifle (standard) at that distance.
The stupid bastards could hurt someone or get themselves killed.
Missouri is a conceil carry state, I’m actually glad I’ve been putting off getting my permit, had I been carring that day I could have killed a kid and that would be something that would haunt me the rest of my life. However, it would have been his fault but still.
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I would not have fired in that situation, after the fact. However, if I saw someone aiming a gun at me before the shot, I would definitely fire. You just can’t tell for that distance and take a chance.
[quote]dday wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
dday wrote:
GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
You need to sue this place for small claims. Jut ask them for like $10,000 or something. Have your friend’s lawyer get all the medical documentation and take written statements from all the medical personnel who treated your friend. If his lawyer applies the pressure, you can probably get an out of court settlement.
10 grand isn’t small claims. However, I do agree that he should of asked the golf course for some green to keep their mouths quiet about it. The kids are a known nuisance and they haven’t done anything to correct it. Start throwing around some legal terms like negligence and you never know what you might get…course they could just threaten you back.
My main question is if you are going to go through the hassle of dressing up in goofy expensive clothes, buy clubs, etc. Why wouldn’t you cough up the extra couple of bucks to go to a nice golf course?
Hope your friend is alright though cause that is messed up.
I’d rather just cut my losses on the whole deal, I personally wasn’t injured but will stand beside my friend if he chooses to go the legal route. He did talk to the owner about covering his co-pay $100 plus perscriptions costs, something like $150 total, they denied it and said they cannot be held liable for what happened. He’s debating legal action, he’s not sure if it’s worth messing with but I’ll stand by him regardless.
The reason for such a ghetto course was they have 5 courses, 4 of which are considerably further away, they have a kick ass gym on the property that almost no one uses and for $450 a year it was a steal, know I know why.
Did you guys sign a waiver before you could use the facilities? You might want to let them know that when they said it was a known problem they could be held liable for negligence. I’m surprised they didn’t pay your friend the $250 for medical expenses. In fact their insurance should of covered everything. Course it all comes down to how willing/capable your friend is to spend a couple hundred/thousand bucks in legal expenses on a small moral crusade. You don’t need a lawyer for small claims court but if you show up without one and the golf place has one you can bet the judge will side with them.
I don’t golf at all but what part of Missouri was this in? I’m in the K.C. area.
Oh have your friend take pictures and document everything just in case he decides to go to court or use it for some leverage.
I signed a waiver when I became a member, he was not a member and signed nothing when we played. Like you said it would be nothing more than a moral victory if he chose to go through with anything legal, that’s what he’s trying to waive. We do have the police report and the medical records from the ER, I will tell him to take pictures of the whole and he kept the BB, there should be enough evidence to make a case.
I’m in Lee’s Summit, this happend in Grandview.[/quote]
Actually, you don’t need a lawyer for small claims, at least in Pa. you just go before the magistrate and tell your story. It costs about 94$ to file a claim, which if you win, they pay.
Isn’t the whole point of concealed carry to defend yourself? If I had a gun on me it would’ve found use in that situation. They were asking for it by shooting at someone they didn’t even have a personal issue with. Who knows what they’ll be doing in a few years? Best defense is a good offense…