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Doctor assisted suicide? Really? That’s where we are drawing the big line to say Americans are moving left? [/quote]
A good argument could be made that favoring Dr. assisted suicide is about as conservative as one could get.
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Fiscally sure.
But it’s still State Sponsored/Condoned Killing. I’ve very torn on the subject myself. [/quote]
How is it state sponsored? Am I reading it wrong? If I’m in pain and terminally ill and ask my doctor to help me end the pain (and my life) isn’t that a decision between myself and my doctor?
Perhaps I’m missing some part of it beans? [/quote]
A third party is ending your life, your death isn’t from natural causes. (It would be eventually, but not at that juncture.)That, by definition, is murder. For the doctor to not be prosecuted, that means the state sponsors the action by default. (Similar to abortion.)
Again I’m torn on the matter. I don’t personally give a shit if someone commits suicide. If they don’t care about their life, why should I? However the unintended consequences of such legislation or general apathy towards this are rather frightening. We aren’t talking about building a highway system that severely alters ecosystems, which can be rectified here. We’re talking about people asking to die, and someone helping them…
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Yeah, I can see that. That is a very, very, very big precedent to set legally. The flip side of it is though…if you don’t have the control over the decision to live or die, you don’t have control over much of anything. It’s the most basic thing a human being can own.
I once got burned for saying the secret to a successful marriage was lots of constructive criticism. I didn’t think that required a smiley face. My bad. [/quote]
I remember that, and no, no one got your joke. I think I did, but yeah, lol.
About assisted suicide. I think it can be like the name implies, assisted. No-one has to kill anybody, the suicdee has to self press the button (probably Enter), even a quadriplectic can do it with his/her eyes.
I think pot has bipartisan support. Most of the poll seems to do with sex. [/quote]
Yes. That’s why everyone wants to talk about Bruce Jenner instead of the Iranian nuclear situation. We Americans are stupid like that. [/quote]
I don’t think I have or could possibly agree with you more here. Unfortunately, it seems we require a major tragedy to pull our collective heads out of our collective asses. And way to few appreciate how good we really do have it here. I could care less if __________ Jenner wanted to turn itself into a goat, but you cannot avoid it on any news site.
Yeah, I see attitudes towards weed as one of the big cultural shifts right now. Where we are, the high school and college kids often see it as less bad for you/ less bad for society than alcohol. Not to debate the merits of pot, but they might be right. It was certainly NOT as acceptable as alcohol when I was that age. And my parents, who are too old to be hippies, see it in a much darker light than alcohol.
BTW, I’m mostly joking about PMS and pot brownies. Mostly. Certainly joking about divorce. My sense of humor doesn’t always translate well so now I have to put smileys and winkies.
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That’s one shift I can get behind. It’s time to end the reefer madness era. Aside from decades of terrible misinformation, there are a lot of benefits that have been denied people for far to long simply out of paranoia and plain stupidity.
I always found it interesting that the only drugs we illegalize are ones that people derive pleasure from. They’ll pedal any other kind of drug all over the place in advertising. Drugs that can truly be bad for you, but do intoxicate you, at least not in a pleasurable way. But if a drug has a pleasurable intoxicating property, it’s either illegal, or very hard to get a prescription for.
And that’s what I don’t get. Why is it a bad thing if a drug makes you feel good? If it provides a benefit and does not have terrible side effects I don’t see the problem. They pedal drugs that don’t make you feel good but have terrible side effects all the time.
It seems to stem from some deep seated Puritanism we have never been able to rid ourselves from. If it feels good, it must be bad, or at least immoral. Makes no sense and it’s a stupid attitude.