Where exactly did I say that it’s impossible to buy sex over the web? That wasn’t what I was saying at all. My point was and still is that there is a distinction between a prostitute and an escort.
Well this is a first, I never in my life met anyone that actually believed that “escorts” really did what they say: only escort. That there’s even a market for it big enough for all these companies to exist.
I think most would agree the service provided by each and every escort service on the planet is prostitution and not actually escorting not matter what they claim. Maybe some have classier more intelligent girls. [/quote]
If you’ve arrived at that conclusion then you’ve obviously not taken the time to read my previous posts on the subject. Who’s more naive? Me for assuming that the majority of online escort agencies don’t offer sexual services if they display a clause that says so, or you for making a blanket statement that every escort service on the planet is a front for a brothel?
I don’t suppose you’ve stopped to think that by making men think that they will get some, then the escort agencies will generate more customers than they otherwise would have?
[quote]roybot wrote:
I don’t suppose you’ve stopped to think that by making men think that they will get some, then the escort agencies will generate more customers than they otherwise would have?
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The rich guys who pay for the services are likely going to find another girl or want the girl back again as they have the green to do it. If your service has girls who don’t put out, it will be widespread. It’s also bad for retaining customers.
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
roybot wrote:
I don’t suppose you’ve stopped to think that by making men think that they will get some, then the escort agencies will generate more customers than they otherwise would have?
The rich guys who pay for the services are likely going to find another girl or want the girl back again as they have the green to do it. If your service has girls who don’t put out, it will be widespread. It’s also bad for retaining customers.[/quote]
That’s entirely possible. But if an escort agency displays terms of agreement to say that sex isn’t on the agenda, as some do, It’d be unwise to interpret that as a green light for services you are told you won’t be getting. Any bad publicity will be limited because the guy won’t exactly be shouting his experiences from the rooftops. Also, we go back to those all important terms of agreement again.
How can a guy claim that he was hoodwinked into paying for sex, when he was clearly told before any money was exchanged, that there wouldn’t be any? He has no complaint: the fault is purely his own because the moment he set eyes on the word ‘escort’, he assumed that that sex was a shoo-in, despite any evidence to the contrary.
If an escort agency doesn’t provide sex, what difference does it make if a guy thinks he’s been misled? He wouldn’t have gone there he if knew with certainty that sex was a no go area - the ‘trick’ has worked, and the agency has squeezed cash out of the guy that they otherwise wouldn’t have gotten. All this because the guy thought that ‘escort’ was synonymous with ‘prostitute’.
The only way of looking past these disclaimers and knowing what these services provide behind the scenes is to have personal experience with an agency or to be referred to one by someone else.
Look, there are obviously hookers in existence that call themselves ‘escorts’. I’m not disputing that. But a fair share of them actually only are escorts and, despite what you may think, there is a lucrative market for wealthy guys looking for companionship without the…um…trimmings;)
Personally, I wouldn’t bank on getting any from escort sites that show no nudey pics or say there is no sex to be had: it probably means that they aren’t actually hookers - but it doesn’t hurt for everybody to think that…
[quote]roybot wrote:
hockechamp14 wrote:
roybot wrote:
I don’t suppose you’ve stopped to think that by making men think that they will get some, then the escort agencies will generate more customers than they otherwise would have?
The rich guys who pay for the services are likely going to find another girl or want the girl back again as they have the green to do it. If your service has girls who don’t put out, it will be widespread. It’s also bad for retaining customers.
That’s entirely possible. But if an escort agency displays terms of agreement to say that sex isn’t on the agenda, as some do, It’d be unwise to interpret that as a green light for services you are told you won’t be getting. Any bad publicity will be limited because the guy won’t exactly be shouting his experiences from the rooftops. Also, we go back to those all important terms of agreement again.
How can a guy claim that he was hoodwinked into paying for sex, when he was clearly told before any money was exchanged, that there wouldn’t be any? He has no complaint; the fault is purely his own because the moment he set eyes on the word ‘escort’, he assumed that that sex was a shoo-in; despite any evidence to the contrary.
If an escort agency doesn’t provide sex, what difference does it make if a guy thinks he’s been misled? He wouldn’t have gone there he if knew with certainty that sex was a no go area - the ‘trick’ has worked, and the agency has squeezed cash out of the guy that they otherwise wouldn’t have gotten. All this because the guy thought that ‘escort’ was synonymous with ‘prostitute’.
The only way of looking past these disclaimers and knowing what these services provide behind the scenes is to have personal experience with an agency or to be referred to one by someone else.
Look, there are obviously hookers in existence that call themselves ‘escorts’. I’m not disputing that. But a fair share of them actually only are escorts and, despite what you may think, there is a lucrative market for wealthy guys looking for companionship without the…um…trimmings;)
Personally, I wouldn’t bank on gettimg any from escort sites that show no nudity or say there is no sex to be had: it probably means that they aren’t actually hookers - but it doesn’t hurt for everybody to think that…
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OK— again.
Those are hookers.
High priced callgirls.
There are epic threads on what they will and will not do, whether they are a GFE, PSE and any other possible kind of E, whether you can book them with another girl, which girl they like to be booked with best and I think you can figure out what A- level means on your own.
There might be just “escorts”, in fact I know that there are, but there is usually a hint in there somewhere like “does not do private time” or something like that.
Of course there are some agencies that try to rip you off, which is why there are sites with a rating system.
I do not really know why that seems to shatter an important part of your world view, but there are beautiful intelligent callgirls and you can meet them just like that if you invest the 500$ or so.
I would have though that that is good news, but apparently it is not.
This is a typical review from a site with a disclaimer:
Ok, these are some of the more harmless ones, to keep it family friendly.
Again, unless you have personally contacted and used every one of those agencies, or have a close friend that has, you have absolutely no way of knowing this. Your only basis for thinking that is your belief that a hooker is an escort and vice versa. It’s not proof - you just expect me to take your word for it based on a few websites (websites that you probably found after googling ‘escort agency’).
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There might be just “escorts”, in fact I know that there are, but there is usually a hint in there somewhere like “does not do private time” or something like that.[/quote]
And that’s exactly what I’ve been saying all along. Unfortunately, this debate just rages on because some individuals, yourself included, insist that all self -described ecort agencies sell sex - regardless of what their policy is. You have no way of knowing this. Even Charlie Sheen couldn’t give an answer to that, but you expect me to take a handful of links as proof? First you expect me to pay $10 to view the information in one of the links you found (very thoughtful), and now this! You really must think I came down with the last shower…
And just for your information, saying that your opinions “shatter an important part of my world view” is giving yourself a little too much credit. Trust me, I’m not making these posts through a lack of life experience, as you seem be suggesting.
It’s called thinking with your brain instead of your dick.
And posting excerpts from reviews where guys relate their experiences after paying for sex only proves that they slept with a prostitute at some point in their lives: there’s not really much insight into exactly what proportion of escort agencies offer sex.It’s certainly not relevant to what you are saying. Even review sites don’t list every escort agency under the sun.
If you wanna prove beyond doubt that you are the expert that you so clearly think you are, then post your personal experiences with said agencies, instead of telling me what other guys have done and what other people say about them. What? No answer?
This all started because AngryVader said that ShamWowhooker was the most attractive hooker he’d seen. You disagreed, and responded by posting a series of links to escort agencies that according to their policies, may or may not sell sex. Looking for the very best internet escorts and comparing them to a common, though expensive streetwalker, is hardly a fair comparison.
Look, we keep on coming back to the same things here.
I’ve stated my view on things. So have you. People can read both and form their own conclusions…
Win, lose or draw - I’m not going to lose any sleep over this.
Again, unless you have personally contacted and used every one of those agencies, or have a close friend that has, you have absolutely no way of knowing this. Your only basis for thinking that is your belief that a hooker is an escort and vice versa. It’s not proof - you just expect me to take your word for it based on a few websites (websites that you probably found after googling ‘escort agency’).
There might be just “escorts”, in fact I know that there are, but there is usually a hint in there somewhere like “does not do private time” or something like that.
And that’s exactly what I’ve been saying all along. Unfortunately, this debate just rages on because some individuals, yourself included, insist that all self -described ecort agencies sell sex - regardless of what their policy is. You have no way of knowing this. Even Charlie Sheen couldn’t give an answer to that, but you expect me to take a handful of links as proof? First you expect me to pay $10 to view the information in one of the links you found (very thoughtful), and now this! You really must think I came down with the last shower…
And just for your information, saying that your opinions “shatter an important part of my world view” is giving yourself a little too much credit. Trust me, I’m not making these posts through a lack of life experience, as you seem be suggesting.
It’s called thinking with your brain instead of your dick.
And posting excerpts from reviews where guys relate their experiences after paying for sex only proves that they slept with a prostitute at some point in their lives: there’s not really much insight into exactly what proportion of escort agencies offer sex.It’s certainly not relevant to what you are saying. Even review sites don’t list every escort agency under the sun.
If you wanna prove beyond doubt that you are the expert that you so clearly think you are, then post your personal experiences with said agencies, instead of telling me what other guys have done and what other people say about them. What? No answer?
This all started because AngryVader said that ShamWowhooker was the most attractive hooker he’d seen. You disagreed, and responded by posting a series of links to escort agencies that according to their policies, may or may not sell sex. Looking for the very best internet escorts and comparing them to a common, though expensive streetwalker, is hardly a fair comparison.
Look, we keep on coming back to the same things here.
I’ve stated my view on things. So have you. People can read both and form their own conclusions…
Win, lose or draw - I’m not going to lose any sleep over this.
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Ok, I give up, you win.
I just posted a few links that I though clearly proofed that there were some very attractive callgirls but apparently all they do is holding hands, for hundreds of dollars an hour.
Also, whenever I met an escort I was apparently doing it wrong.
That is good news though for apparently my sheer animal magnetism is unparalleled and I seduced them instantaneously.
I’m just pissed I have to hit mute twice to fully mute my TV. I slow enough that I have to listen to vince and billy yell for a sentence or 2, for fucks sake