Unbelievable, but undestandable coming from SF. What a crock of horse manure.
just proves that we are incapable of learning from history . . .
Looks like SF will allow non-citizens to vote. Hopefully the people there are not this stupid, oh yeah they vote for Nancy Pelosi I guess they are that stupid.
This movement has been gathering steam for awhile:
The article talks about letting non-citizens with children in the school system vote for school-board members.
This is probably a bad idea.
However,
The article says a number of times this is unconstitutional.
Is it?
SF is not delivering all the rights of citizenry to non-citizens; only the right to take part in a single election, specifically within the borders of SF itself.
Surely the SF community has the self-determination to do this to themselves, regardless of how bizarre it seems to the rest of us.
[quote]Otep wrote:
The article talks about letting non-citizens with children in the school system vote for school-board members.
This is probably a bad idea.
However,
The article says a number of times this is unconstitutional.
Is it?
SF is not delivering all the rights of citizenry to non-citizens; only the right to take part in a single election, specifically within the borders of SF itself.
Surely the SF community has the self-determination to do this to themselves, regardless of how bizarre it seems to the rest of us.[/quote]
So illegal people who illegally send their kids to schools on the tax payers dime will now get to vote in regards to the schools they’re illegally having their kids attend. I see. The New America.
I wonder why my family spent over a decade working to become citizens of this country. Should have flown straight to California.
[quote]Otep wrote:
The article talks about letting non-citizens with children in the school system vote for school-board members.
This is probably a bad idea.
However,
The article says a number of times this is unconstitutional.
Is it?
SF is not delivering all the rights of citizenry to non-citizens; only the right to take part in a single election, specifically within the borders of SF itself.
Surely the SF community has the self-determination to do this to themselves, regardless of how bizarre it seems to the rest of us.[/quote]
If they are illegally in the country. It is unconstitutional to grant them things. especially voting rights.
^ exactly right, especially since the schools receive federal tax dollars as funding.
SF is known to defy the Constitution on some issues. I bet many of you are not away of Mr. Dave Campos, a guy on the city council, who used to be an illegal alien himself. Yes, he was a border jumping piece of shit, who managed to slither his illegal alien loving ass into a political platform. This guy is the WORST, to him, there is no border, no laws against illegals, no deportations, in fact, we owe illegals in his warped mind.
First off, it is a sanctuary city, which is against federal law to begin with. The above mentioned Mr. Campos passed a city ordinance which blocks the deportation of illegal alien juveniles unless they are convicted rather than simply arrested. This ordinance conflicts with Federal Law, but he insisted that law enforcement break Federal Law to comply with this wishes. The mayor put him in check, and screamed racism (what a shocker).
This is the problem when you have years of unchecked illegal immigration, when they stay here for so long, they believe and argue that they belong here. That they have rights, and should be a part of the decisions in how the city or state should be run.
My friends, do not let your state fall into the mess California did. We have a Mexican politician here, who is so mad that Costa Mesa declared itself a “rule of law city”, that he is willing to let the Orange County Fairgrounds fall victim to a private investor, who could then turn it into anything they want. Imagine the city fair, which is very popular with people of all ages, this prick is so pissed that he wants to let it fall by the wayside. The city wants to buy the land, so it secures the fairgrounds forever, but he is blocking the purchase to make a political statement because the city is enforcing immigration laws. Gil Cedillo, you mother fucker we will not let you get away with this. Mexico does not run this bitch, we do.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
The article talks about letting non-citizens with children in the school system vote for school-board members.
This is probably a bad idea.
However,
The article says a number of times this is unconstitutional.
Is it?
SF is not delivering all the rights of citizenry to non-citizens; only the right to take part in a single election, specifically within the borders of SF itself.
Surely the SF community has the self-determination to do this to themselves, regardless of how bizarre it seems to the rest of us.[/quote]
If they are illegally in the country. It is unconstitutional to grant them things. especially voting rights.[/quote]
How? Quote me chapter and verse.
I mean, voting priveldges are removed for convicted felons… key word being ‘convicted’… but how does Sf widening the its school board electoral base not fall under ‘The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people’? Obviously, school board elections are not federal, they are local. How is it not up to the municipality to decide how to determine them?
Are the schools recieveing any federal support?
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
The article talks about letting non-citizens with children in the school system vote for school-board members.
This is probably a bad idea.
However,
The article says a number of times this is unconstitutional.
Is it?
SF is not delivering all the rights of citizenry to non-citizens; only the right to take part in a single election, specifically within the borders of SF itself.
Surely the SF community has the self-determination to do this to themselves, regardless of how bizarre it seems to the rest of us.[/quote]
If they are illegally in the country. It is unconstitutional to grant them things. especially voting rights.[/quote]
How? Quote me chapter and verse.
I mean, voting priveldges are removed for convicted felons… key word being ‘convicted’… but how does Sf widening the its school board electoral base not fall under ‘The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people’? Obviously, school board elections are not federal, they are local. How is it not up to the municipality to decide how to determine them?[/quote]
The constitution gives naturalization privileges to the fed (the supreme court decided that provision gives them immigration control rights too). The fed holds these people to be in the country illegally. This would bypass federal immigration/naturalization law. It’s against the constitution. You can’t award rights to people your supposed to be deporting.
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
The article talks about letting non-citizens with children in the school system vote for school-board members.
This is probably a bad idea.
However,
The article says a number of times this is unconstitutional.
Is it?
SF is not delivering all the rights of citizenry to non-citizens; only the right to take part in a single election, specifically within the borders of SF itself.
Surely the SF community has the self-determination to do this to themselves, regardless of how bizarre it seems to the rest of us.[/quote]
If they are illegally in the country. It is unconstitutional to grant them things. especially voting rights.[/quote]
How? Quote me chapter and verse.
I mean, voting priveldges are removed for convicted felons… key word being ‘convicted’… but how does Sf widening the its school board electoral base not fall under ‘The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people’? Obviously, school board elections are not federal, they are local. How is it not up to the municipality to decide how to determine them?[/quote]
You are wrong about felons not being able to vote, it depends from state to state.