Updated BW. Phase 1 of the restart. Libido is down a bit. Strength is down a bit. Energy levels seems fine, pretty good when I actually sleep.
HCG - 500IU daily for a couple weeks. Missed a couple days in there.
Aromasin - 6mg daily
Formasuge - Two pumps, once or twice daily.
Boron - 9mg daily
Multi-V, extra D, calcium d-glucarate, Alpha GPC, Melatonin, Z-12, Magnesium oil.
Crazy that my Free T is so high given my low Total T. That’s been the case for awhile, so I’m just focused on Free T. Wouldn’t mind it being a few points higher, but I’m not going to complain if I can eliminate the T shots. DHEA-s is still pretty high for not talking DHEA. Transdermal magnesium helps. E2 could be a little lower. Aim to match my Free T. Progesterone could be a little higher, so I’m going start taking that (cream) at night again. IGF-1 looks pretty good, but I’ve started Mod 29 and GHRP-2 every night. We’ll see what happens to IGF-1. Sleep seems to be better, but I take a ton of shit to sleep, so who knows.
I had some Torem, so started 60mg ED last week. When that’s out, I have 25mg Clomid tabs that I can use. We’ll see where that puts me. I think I might have had some bunk HCG. Ever since I got this batch, 250IUs just wouldn’t cut it. Balls were a little smaller and up tight. Maybe it was old?
If the SERM doesn’t work, I’ll just go back to HCG and play around with dosage.
Lowish libido, body acne and some weight gain. Looks like a SERM is going to work if I can get E2 down. As advertised, the SERM seems to have knocked IGF-1 levels down. I expected the peptides to counteract that. No such luck. Next step is to start reducing Clomid to see how little I can use and still get the desired effect.
2-26
25mg Clomid EOD
6mg Aromasin ED
Boron, Calcium d-Glucarate, DIM
100mg Mod GRF and GHRP-2
10mg DHEA
Low libido, body acne and some weight gain. SERM continuing to work well. Going to reduce Clomid to 12.5mg EOD. Still need to get a handle on E2. Going to up Aromasin.
25mg Clomid 2x weekly.
10mg Aromasin ED
2 pumps Dermacrine ED
100mg Mod GRF and GHRP-2
Boron, DIM, Calucuim d-Glucarate
LH - 13.1 (1.7-8.6) was 8.6
FSH - 4.8 (1.5-12.4) was 6.4
Total Test - 536 ng/dl (348-1197) was 595
Free T - 15 pg/ml (8.7-25.1) was 16.6
DHEA-S - 340 ug/dl (102-416) was 392
E2 - 33 (7.6-42.6) was 39.2
Progesterone - .6 (.2-1.4) was .6
LH up, FSH down. T, Free T despite E2 being down a bit. DHEA-s down. Not impressed with the dermacrine, but going to keep running it at least until the next test. Should probably go to clomid MWF, but I’m going to keep it 2x weekly until I get E2 down to the low 20s. Bumping Aromasin to 15mg ED. Kind of sucks I have to take that much. If this protocol is going create problems with E2 management, I’ll go back to HCG and play around with dosing. At least that way I can use Anastrozel, and quite a bit less.
Libdo still not great, but I can always rise to the occasion. Other E2 sides are obvious. Night sweats, sleep issues, short temper, weight gain. I really need to be around 20.
25mg Clomid 2x weekly.
15mg Aromasin ED. Was 10.
2 pumps Dermacrine ED
100mg Mod GRF and GHRP-2
Boron, DIM, Calucuim d-Glucarate
2 pumps Formasurg ED
LH - 11.2 (1.7-8.6) was 13.1
FSH - 5 (1.5-12.4) was 4.8
Total Test - 462 ng/dl (348-1197) was 536
Free T - 16.9 pg/ml (8.7-25.1) was 15
DHEA-S - 356 ug/dl (102-416) was 340
E2 - 17.5 (7.6-42.6) was 33
Progesterone - .7 (.2-1.4) was .6
T and Free T are kind of a moving target with Clomid. I would have expected a bigger bump considering E2 came down quite a bit. Looks like SHBG is still a bit higher than it has been on T or HCG. HCG gave me 378/19.4. Not impressed with the dermacrine. DHEA-s is lower than it’s been in years. Going to try 4 pumps per day. Probably just go back to LEF micronized DHEA.
Libdo still not great, but I can always rise to the occasion. Energy is about as good as it’s been in past few years. Weight starting to come off now that E2 is down. Amazing how fast that happens. Down around 5lbs since the last test.
Not really sure what I’m going to do at this point. LH is pretty high and T is still less than optimal. I’ll probably see if getting DHEA-s up a bit will help. Not sure what to do with Clomid. Thinking about 25mg mwf. In the back of my head I’m thinking about going back to HCG. We’ll see.
Seems to be a good dose for HCG. Switching to 25mg Aromasin MWF. Pills are cheaper and that dosing schedule fits better with pills. Not impressed with dermacrine. Going back to micronized oral. Time to start dealing with thyroid. Going to start dessicated thyroid.
Seems to be a good dose for HCG and Aromasin. Not impressed with dermacrine. Going back to micronized oral. Time to start dealing with thyroid. Going to start dessicated thyroid.[/quote]
3 weeks? I edited the Aromasin dose. I was doing 10mg ED at the time of the test. I’m now doing 25mg MWF. Switched to pills, so that’s just easier.
It was hard to nail down E2 with the SERM and it lowered my IGF-1 quite a bit. I feel like my libido is much better on HCG, but that’s probably just the more favorable Free T to E2 ratio. I would have preferred the SERM, but it just didn’t work as well for me. I could try nolva or torem again I supposed, but I’ll probably run HCG for awhile. At least while I sort my thyroid issues.
figured I would update this thread and solicit some comments. I went back to HCG mono for awhile after my Clomid run, then decided to try Nolva again. The last test while taking HCG showed really low E2 so stopped taking an AI for more than a few weeks before this test.
Feb 26th.
20mg Nolva ED
Tapering off HCG - can’t recall what I was taking.
Adex .5mg twice a week.
Mod GRF and GHRP-2 at night for sleep. Maybe 3 of 4 nights a week.
Frag 176-191
Cialis 5mg per day or as needed.
Total T - 422 ng/dl (348-1197)
Free T - 13.2 pg/ml (8.7-25.1)
DHEA-S - 435 pg/ml (102-416)
E2 - <6 (7.6-42.6)
Pretty standard AI dose for me, so I was surprised E2 was so low. Always had issues with E2. DHEA is usually on high end even with no supplementation.
March 20
20mg Nolva ED
NAC and IC3 for liver support because I was worried about running no AI
Mod GRF and GHRP-2 at night for sleep. Maybe 3 of 4 nights a week.
Frag 176-191
Cialis 5mg per day or as needed.
Just started taking Forskolin to support DHEA to T conversion.
LH - 8.6 (1.7-8.6)
FSH - 6.4 (1.5-12.4)
Total T - 612 ng/dl (348-1197)
E2 - <6 pg/ml (7.6-42.6)
I have absolutely zero libido. Hot girlfriend with a healthy libido and mine is completely absent. So bizarre that E2 is that low. The only thing I can think of is that my research chem cialis was mislabeled and is an AI. Unlikely, but this is just baffling. I’ll definitely stop the IC3, but doubt that will make a difference. I suppose I could take some DHEA to try and bump E2 but I’m already on the high end there. Any thoughts?
Only other change has been liposomal Vit C. Maybe 3g per day or so. Also take Metagenics licorice plus for adrenals, but I’ve taken that before in the past.