Seriously, F the Police

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
It’s fucking reDONKulous the shit these fucking pigs get away with. As I bring up in EVERY “fuck da police” thread, in the past ten years or so, I have been beaten on the side of the road by PG county cops on FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS. I wont go there at night anymore. Not charged with anything, no ticket, just a flashlight in my face, get up against the side of the car, and kidney punches.

Just some good ol’ boys having some fun, right?

FUCK THE POLICE!!![/quote]

Why, because of your record? I mean, I realize that WHY is that they’re assholes, but what is triggering the behavior, do you think? Just that you’re male or white or your history or what?[/quote]

I don’t know. I am actually friends with a few cops and they said that you have to do a specific search to find someone’s record (at least you did ten years ago) which is unlikely to have been done during a traffic stop. This leads me to assume they just did it for fun. The fact that it has happened four times, pretty much the same way, in the same jurisdiction reinforces that - it’s just PG county pigs being PG county pigs.

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[quote]Bujo wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Seriously, if you’re LEO, watch this, and then go fuck yourself. And then go fuck yourself again. And again. And again. And again.

Fuck.

You.[/quote]

Fuck You.

I firmly believe that anyone who has ever had their ass whipped by half a dozen cops was being a major fucking asshole, shitting on everyone and everything around them, and deserved the beating they got. It’s not that fucking hard to go about one’s day to day business without getting a major fucking beat down.[/quote]

FUCK YOU. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
This could all be fixed quite easily by the way. A few random thoughts:

First, institute a strict honor code. If your fellow officer breaks the law or Department regulation and a fellow officer is present and witnesses the conduct and does not promptly and immediately report said breach, they are subject to punishment up to and including dismissal and loss of pension benefits, with a preference toward dismissal.

Next, bite the bullet, make the necessary small tax rate increase, and make LEO a higher paying position, and simultaneously raise the educational and psychological requirements for admittance to the Academy. Make it a professional occupation and pay it accordingly.

The first two above alone would restore faith in the badge after a long enough period (along with weeding out the bad cops).

Make the recording (video and audio) of all traffic stops the law. Period. In fact, the audio and video of all encounters should be the law. It’s nothing to mount a pin hole camera to a LEO uniform.

Enhanced criminal penalties for LEO breaking the law. It’s the highest public trust, and it should be penalized severely when it is broken. They have enhanced penalties for “hate crimes”; I ask you, isn’t a public official with authority abusing that authority engaging in a crime exceeding a “hate crime”? Break the law as a cop, and you’re getting the broomstick up the ass.

Get rid of the FOP and this ridiculous Union that fights to protect bad cops. Motherfucker, you should be subject to the same god damn standards for keeping your job that most Americans are. You should be subject to unfettered evaluation and discipline, as your employer (the Department) sees fit. There is no place for a Union involved in an occupation with the highest public trust, protecting the lazy and poor performers. The shenanigans the FOP engages to protect bad cops is ridiculous - and they are often successful. And the public pays for it when these employment cases (when they do dismiss a cop) go to Court. The union pays for the attorney, and YOU the taxpayer pay for your local government to defend.[/quote]

Bodyguard for minister of cops (or whatever you guys call it)

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[quote]Waylander wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
It’s fucking reDONKulous the shit these fucking pigs get away with. As I bring up in EVERY “fuck da police” thread, in the past ten years or so, I have been beaten on the side of the road by PG county cops on FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS. I wont go there at night anymore. Not charged with anything, no ticket, just a flashlight in my face, get up against the side of the car, and kidney punches.

Just some good ol’ boys having some fun, right?

FUCK THE POLICE!!![/quote]

That’s fucked up, but i’m not surprised. Did you try to file some charges against them or anything? I the justice system would make anything of them, but it’s always important to say something when injustice happens. It’s when people don’t say anything that allows these fuckers to get away with it[/quote]

And report what? High beams and lights flashing prevent me from seeing the tag or the car number. A flashlight in the eyes (usually coupled with a punch in the nose) prevent me from seeing any badge numbers or faces… They were white, or at least the guy who pulled me out of the car was. So I go to the police station and accuse a bunch of asshole cops that they should help me? Complete waste of time.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Last week another group of black guys decided to curb stomp, literally curb stomp a white guy outside the club down the street after it was closing. These are just a few of the countless incidents I’ve witnessed and I’m sure you black folks have a million and one cop/white people stories so don’t even act all high and mighty on me with your equality BS.

[/quote]

Pff!! I’m not even acting all high and mighty on you. Lol, who talked about equality, here? I just loathe you. Can’t you even sense it from my posts?

And you’re right, I have a million and one horror stories about white cop/people mistreating blacks that I’d lovely tell you --happened to me, my relatives or close friends or other blacks – but that doesn’t make me dislike 90 % of whole race in a state or wherever, or even stop me hanging out or fucking white folks.

Your problem is you’re dealing with what the French called ‘Racaille’. And you get racaille in all shapes and colour, comprende?

I told ya, find yourself a job at an all white night club and you’ll be all right, okay?

And although I dislike you --as an individual – peace out.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
That’s true, you don’t pick your race. But I think it is just as close-minded to say that all black people suck as it is to say that all cops suck. I understand everyone’s points, but…to say “go fuck yourself” to every single person that is part of a group because there are some (or even many, I am not arguing the amount particularly) who are bad people…to me that’s the same as what waylander said. Yes, you choose to be a cop, but anybody that thinks that ALL cops choose to be cops BECAUSE they are bad people or BECAUSE they don’t care about people getting beaten up is truly uninformed. Like I said before, I can offer you two examples of people who want to be police officers because they want to PROTECT AND SERVE. You would condemn me before I’ve done anything wrong, the same as the person who immediately dislikes a black person because of his experience with some.[/quote]

Once again for the people who can’t seem to grasp it, when you are a PART OF AN ORGANIZATION with matching fucking uniforms and very popular emblems and signs that let people know exactly who you are, your actions represent the actions of your entire fucking organization.

That is not the same as being black at all unless YOUR actions represent the actions of all white people.

This line of thought is ridiculous and the very issue with racism today.
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I’m not arguing that. I agree that there is a difference, and I agree that when a police officer abuses his power, it reflects badly on his organization as a whole. I don’t necessarily agree with the view, but I don’t think there’s anything necessarily wrong with someone having a problem with the way a department is run, with the organization itself. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say things need to be changed, or that it is a problem when cops will lie to protect other cops. I’m not arguing any of that.

The only thing I thought was unreasonable was, again, to think that all police officers are bad people because some police officers are bad people. You were in the military, right? (I think I just read this in this thread?) There have been people in the military who have abused their power, who have committed crimes, killed innocent people, etc, right? When they do that, it reflects poorly on that organization. Would you think it was fair for other people to condemn you as a shitty person because of it?

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This thread is a prime example of why things will never change. As a society we are so separated by sex and race that the system of government and police keep us all divided, thus we stay conquered.

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[quote]Waylander wrote:
Wow, America’s police and law system is a fucking joke. Your cops are just a bunch of mobsters/hooligans who are protected by law. If justice prevailed, those cops would be fired and locked up in prison. The guy who said this was proper training and people trying to defend it would also be fired, for being dumb fucks with vested interests. Seriously you Americans are like second class citizens when it comes to your cops.

I can imagine the recruitment process being:
“Fat and unathletic? Check.
Bigoted and insecure? Check.
Absolute fucking scumbag who just wants to use law to kick people’s heads in? Check.
Well done, you are now a cop. Here’s your gun, now go shoot some niggers.”

It’s shit like this that makes America such a shameful nation.[/quote]

I have never had a problem with the police in 42+ years of life. I don’t know anyone who has had a problem with the police, other than people getting traffic tickets when they were doing something illegal. To characterize an entire nation of citizens and law enforcement like you have makes you look ill-informed.

DB

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[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Seriously, if you’re LEO, watch this, and then go fuck yourself. And then go fuck yourself again. And again. And again. And again.

Fuck.

You.[/quote]

Eh, I’m still going to apply for the police department here. If that pisses you off, so be it.[/quote]

I’ll still be friends with ya, Lew! My cousin is with Baltimore City PD, so let me know if putting the two of you together would help you get in.

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People that are honorable men and women make honorable LEOs. People that are screwed-up to start with make screwed-up officers. These types of incidents are certainly systemic. As written into the law LEO’s now receive immunity from prosecution for all conduct while on the job unless crimminal intent can be proved…good luck with that one!

The recent SCOTUS decision ref. to the New Orleans DA office and the withholding evidence leaves little doubt about the direction we are headed. With the technology that exists today all encounters/interviews/interrogations with the law should be recorded on video. Only testimony that is supported by video should be allowed to be introduced in court by the prosecutor.

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Theres corruption in every fuckin profession guys, does it make it right no, should we just accept it no. But the fact of the matter is we only hear about the police when some one idiot in the department fucks up. You never here about them doing there job correctly which im sure 90% of them do.

What are we supposed to do? live without the police department? because everyone is just gonna live peacefully without them, good joke. My point is most cops do there jobs and sacrifice quite a lot to do their job successfully, the realize there are fuck ups that slipped through the cracks and don’t approve of them either. but remember they are trying to help, most of them at least

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Waylanderxx is obviously trolling. You people freak out over anything. Why are gregron and anonym the only calm and rational people in this thread? I will never understand the cop hate either…seems like everyone on the interwebz is quick to pass judgement.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Seriously, if you’re LEO, watch this, and then go fuck yourself. And then go fuck yourself again. And again. And again. And again.

Fuck.

You.[/quote]

Eh, I’m still going to apply for the police department here. If that pisses you off, so be it.[/quote]

I’ll still be friends with ya, Lew! My cousin is with Baltimore City PD, so let me know if putting the two of you together would help you get in.[/quote]

LOL. Any and all help is appreciated. I already have all my police buddies as references, so the more the merrier.

And I think you know, the cops that grew up in Baltimore a little different because half the guys you run into doing dirt you grew up with or are related to, so your attitude is a bit different.

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[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Waylanderxx is obviously trolling. You people freak out over anything. Why are gregron and anonym the only calm and rational people in this thread? I will never understand the cop hate either…seems like everyone on the interwebz is quick to pass judgement. [/quote]

Cop hate? Everyone here isn’t talking about hating all cops. My next door neighbor is a cop. We get along great. Dude will call me if I leave my garage door open (I did this once) just to make sure I’m ok.

We are talking about the INSTITUTION of being a cop in this country and the FACT that they do cover up for each other and discourage acting against other cops if you do see something wrong.

You can’t even deny this…and acting like we shouldn’t have a problem with it is very strange.

THAT is why people say they “hate cops”…because even if you do know a great one, the institution itself is screwed from the ground up.

If this stuff was not being caught on film, people would be acting like people were making up the brutality…which obviously means there is tons of shit you don’t even know about.

As far as your support of “trolling”…no one claimed that poster wasn’t one. I do believe that is the point. if that is why you come here, then that is what you are. Why support the troll?

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sorry X but i disagree, there are people that ARE hating cops no question about it, you might not but there are many ignorant people that do. I may not agree with your statement about the institution but its not totally of base either. For that matter though, what institution isn’t corrupt? it may not be a spotless one, but we need it all the same and there are good people in the police force, much like the military, protecting good people

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im am not saying however that we should accept this, there asses should be thrown in jail. Their punishment should be worse for abusing the laws they’re sworn to protect

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[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
sorry X but i disagree, there are people that ARE hating cops no question about it,[/quote]

I said NOT ALL OF US are “hating cops” just to say the words. I also spelled out why you can say this because THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION that has yet to stamp out the problem…one that seems to be growing. It is great that some of you have had no bad experiences…but I have…and the thought of cops getting away with this shit is fucking scary since I know I am more likely to be pulled over in the first place.

So yes, you can say I have an issue with cops as a whole even if I do know some good ones…BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL A PART OF THE WHOLE PROBLEM…even if I can respect them individually.

This is an institution with true power over me and most of society. I can CHOOSE to not go to a certain hospital or a certain car dealership. i can not choose who pulls me over on the street at 2am.

That POWER is why this is an issue.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Waylanderxx is obviously trolling. You people freak out over anything. Why are gregron and anonym the only calm and rational people in this thread? I will never understand the cop hate either…seems like everyone on the interwebz is quick to pass judgement. [/quote]

Cop hate? Everyone here isn’t talking about hating all cops. My next door neighbor is a cop. We get along great. Dude will call me if I leave my garage door open (I did this once) just to make sure I’m ok.

We are talking about the INSTITUTION of being a cop in this country and the FACT that they do cover up for each other and discourage acting against other cops if you do see something wrong.

You can’t even deny this…and acting like we shouldn’t have a problem with it is very strange.

THAT is why people say they “hate cops”…because even if you do know a great one, the institution itself is screwed from the ground up.

If this stuff was not being caught on film, people would be acting like people were making up the brutality…which obviously means there is tons of shit you don’t even know about.

As far as your support of “trolling”…no one claimed that poster wasn’t one. I do believe that is the point. if that is why you come here, then that is what you are. Why support the troll?[/quote]

Maybe not everyone, but the person who started the thread, TheBodyGuard, clearly hates any and all cops. angry chicken gave the impression that he did as well up until a few posts ago. Most people who posted in support of the OP also gave off that impression. I’m glad to hear that you don’t hate all cops.

It’s fine to have a hatred for the bad seeds in the law enforcement field but condemning a group as a whole due to the actions of a few is wrong in almost any instance.

I don’t ‘support’ trolling. I’m just saying that he’s trolling right now because people seem anxious to write him off as a racist when I don’t think he actually is.

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[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
For that matter though, what institution isn’t corrupt? [/quote]

Most professions have a governing body to regulate and oversee as part of a state or federal license. I cannot practice in the state of Texas without this license, if I fuck up not only will I be sued for malpractice I also will possibly lose my ability to practice or be punished.
What X is saying why is our “protectors” not held to the same standard? Firefighters/Paramedics are required to have a state license to work. This is not rocket science or ground breaking news.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Waylander wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
It’s fucking reDONKulous the shit these fucking pigs get away with. As I bring up in EVERY “fuck da police” thread, in the past ten years or so, I have been beaten on the side of the road by PG county cops on FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS. I wont go there at night anymore. Not charged with anything, no ticket, just a flashlight in my face, get up against the side of the car, and kidney punches.

Just some good ol’ boys having some fun, right?

FUCK THE POLICE!!![/quote]

That’s fucked up, but i’m not surprised. Did you try to file some charges against them or anything? I the justice system would make anything of them, but it’s always important to say something when injustice happens. It’s when people don’t say anything that allows these fuckers to get away with it[/quote]

And report what? High beams and lights flashing prevent me from seeing the tag or the car number. A flashlight in the eyes (usually coupled with a punch in the nose) prevent me from seeing any badge numbers or faces… They were white, or at least the guy who pulled me out of the car was. So I go to the police station and accuse a bunch of asshole cops that they should help me? Complete waste of time.[/quote]

Send a letter to your senator, report it to the local precinct. It’s not a waste of time. Even if nothing comes of it (nothing probably would), it’s worth the effort made to notify people that this sort of injustice is going on. Imagine if everyone who got abused by cops didn’t bother to report it or complain about it. The cops would keep getting away with and just get worse. It’s your duty make the authorities know about these issues otherwise you don’t have a right to complain about it.