Seriously, F the Police

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

haha, wow you are one angry woman! You’ve already called me a cunt, pig, said that you loathed me and disliked me and this is the first time we talked. Good job, keep perpetuating the stereotype :slight_smile: [/quote]

No, this is first time I’ve actually responded to you. You’ve addressed me before and I’ve ignored you.

And what stereotype would that be, huh?

Man, you need to get out more, explore more and dip your pig dick into an angry pussy. Women are bat shit crazy, doesn’t matter what race they are. Didn’t you know that, lil’ boy?

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I think you’ve been mad at white people on this board ever since you got called a tranny in the t-vixen thread, amirite? [/quote]

Bwahahahahahah!! Fuck, man, my abs hurt already. Please enough with this fuckery.

Don’t you know all Tvixens get called trannies at some point? And, yes I’m a tranny, motherfucker! I got a bigger dick than you. Why would that make me mad at any white guy or any other person of colour who calls me out? LOL! Because I’m proud of my fucking big dick. I piss on you with my black dick, motherfucker! Psssssshhhhhhhh!!

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
You know, we had two all black clubs in this city and both got shut down within a year of each other for selling drugs. Hmmm.

Y u mad tho?[/quote]

Yeah… I get it… because others clubs are drugs free.

I ain’t even mad, yo. I’m just having fun with ya.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I am a fan of the police, they do good work and the ones that don’t get lots of attention. I don’t know about other folk’s towns but we have civilian review boards that oversee issues here.

There are some bad cops, but there are more good cops, in my opinion. When cops go bad they should be treated harsher than a regular citizen because they should be held to a higher standard.[/quote]

Her report cites federal data from 2003, the most recent available on this aspect, indicating that blacks constituted 53.5 percent of all who entered prison for a drug conviction.

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Blacks make up a significantly lower portion of the population. That is why percentages are misleading.

If you do not understand that then you are ignorant which is forgivable, but you have a responsibility to educate yourself and digest the information. If you do understand and are trying to be funny the you continue to come across as being ignorant and racist, the combination is unforgivable if you are unwilling to educate yourself. [/quote]

I could definitely be wrong, but I am was under the impression that those percentages are based on people actually arrested for drug use, not based on population.

Is that it, or is it based on population?

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That was based on population.[/quote]

I just went back and reread the quote, I do think you are wrong. Could you post where it states that it is based on population and not on actual arrested/recorded drug users?

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I am a fan of the police, they do good work and the ones that don’t get lots of attention. I don’t know about other folk’s towns but we have civilian review boards that oversee issues here.

There are some bad cops, but there are more good cops, in my opinion. When cops go bad they should be treated harsher than a regular citizen because they should be held to a higher standard.[/quote]

Her report cites federal data from 2003, the most recent available on this aspect, indicating that blacks constituted 53.5 percent of all who entered prison for a drug conviction.[/quote]

yah, not the same thing. But thanks for the link.

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[quote]165StateChamp wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Waylanderxx is obviously trolling. You people freak out over anything. Why are gregron and anonym the only calm and rational people in this thread? I will never understand the cop hate either…seems like everyone on the interwebz is quick to pass judgement. [/quote]

Damnit dude!

I’m reaching new levels of notoriety here! All the white people think Prof X is racist and now all the black people think I’m racist.

I’m trying to take over here and you’re fucking it up…[/quote]

Race war in 3,2,1…[/quote]

Who’s side am I on if I hate 90% of everyone?[/quote]

You and Way should start your own white power movement. You live in the same state.[/quote]

But I hate white people too.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
yah, not the same thing. But thanks for the link.
[/quote]
Sorry here is the link.

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Blacks make up a significantly lower portion of the population. That is why percentages are misleading.

If you do not understand that then you are ignorant which is forgivable, but you have a responsibility to educate yourself and digest the information. If you do understand and are trying to be funny the you continue to come across as being ignorant and racist, the combination is unforgivable if you are unwilling to educate yourself. [/quote]

On the same note, there are more poor white people than black people in this country, though the percentage is lower. The average poor American is white.

Statistics can be worked a lot of ways.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Blacks make up a significantly lower portion of the population. That is why percentages are misleading.

If you do not understand that then you are ignorant which is forgivable, but you have a responsibility to educate yourself and digest the information. If you do understand and are trying to be funny the you continue to come across as being ignorant and racist, the combination is unforgivable if you are unwilling to educate yourself. [/quote]

On the same note, there are more poor white people than black people in this country, though the percentage is lower. The average poor American is white.

Statistics can be worked a lot of ways.[/quote]

exactly

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To be fair, the original post did specifically say “If you are LEO, go fuck yourself.” Not “I hate the police,” or “I hate the law enforcement institution.” Hard to not see it as a personal attack on all police officers when you specifically referred to any individual police officer.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

On the same note, there are more poor white people than black people in this country, though the percentage is lower. The average poor American is white.

Statistics can be worked a lot of ways.[/quote]
What is your point? I am not asking for white guilt… However, being uninformed and ignoring facts does not make them not true. For me your post just reinforces the fact that there is further discrimination than that of just low-income. Our country has and is participating in a lot of messed up shit. The fact is that it is not all in the past.

http://www.prisonsucks.com/

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
yah, not the same thing. But thanks for the link.
[/quote]
Sorry here is the link.

Thank you! You are very good with finding info.

but did you read the link?

[EXCERPT]
Extent of Use

The 2008 National Survey on Drug Use and Health showed that the highest rate of current (past month) illicit drug use was among persons [u]reporting two or more races (14.7%), followed by blacks/African Americans (10.1%), American Indian/Alaska Natives (9.5%), whites (8.2%)[/u], Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander (7.3%); and Hispanics (6.2%). The lowest rate of current illicit drug use was among Asians (3.6%).2

[END EXCERPT]

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Blacks make up a significantly lower portion of the population. That is why percentages are misleading.

If you do not understand that then you are ignorant which is forgivable, but you have a responsibility to educate yourself and digest the information. If you do understand and are trying to be funny the you continue to come across as being ignorant and racist, the combination is unforgivable if you are unwilling to educate yourself. [/quote]

Your argument is flawed. Of course with a much larger population there will be more users within that group, that is a given. What matters is what % of that population is using and the blacks win that.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
yah, not the same thing. But thanks for the link.
[/quote]
Sorry here is the link.

Thank you! You are very good with finding info.

but did you read the link?

[EXCERPT]
Extent of Use

The 2008 National Survey on Drug Use and Health showed that the highest rate of current (past month) illicit drug use was among persons [u]reporting two or more races (14.7%), followed by blacks/African Americans (10.1%), American Indian/Alaska Natives (9.5%), whites (8.2%)[/u], Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander (7.3%); and Hispanics (6.2%). The lowest rate of current illicit drug use was among Asians (3.6%).2

[END EXCERPT][/quote] Yeah and then I applied those percentages to actual population numbers showing that there are like 6 times as many white users as there are blacks. Waylander can only argue that black clubs selling drugs to only blacks had a bad business model, there are actually more whites to buy the drugs at the end of the day.

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

On the same note, there are more poor white people than black people in this country, though the percentage is lower. The average poor American is white.

Statistics can be worked a lot of ways.[/quote]
What is your point? I am not asking for white guilt… However, being uninformed and ignoring facts does not make them not true. For me your post just reinforces the fact that there is further discrimination than that of just low-income. Our country has and is participating in a lot of messed up shit. The fact is that it is not all in the past.

http://www.prisonsucks.com/[/quote]

My point is that you should be cautious with statistics. An argument from statistics still has to have sound logic and most of the time it doesn’t. There are a lot of ways to twist and spin statistics.

Like the statistics you just linked. You posted them to show discrimination in the system. BUT a racist could link to the exact same article and claim that showed blacks commit more crime.

When the truth is, it doesn’t show either. It only shows a correlation between race and incarceration. That means there is a link between the 2 BUT it doesn’t in any way present evidence of what that link is.

Through good statistical analysis with more information (adjusting for things like economic state and environment and such) it can suggest a causal relationship, but even then, human actions are very complex and unpredictable and the best analysis of statistics can be wrong.

It could just as easily be that blacks tend to live dense areas of population where judges tend to be harsher and less forgiving. Or, more likely, it’s a combination of many issues from racism and profiling to economics and culture.

All that to say, there is a difference between disparity and discrimination. Does the NBA being mostly black or the NHL being mostly white mean they discriminate? No, though it doesn’t rule it out either.

Like I said, people should be more cautious of statistics.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

haha, wow you are one angry woman! You’ve already called me a cunt, pig, said that you loathed me and disliked me and this is the first time we talked. Good job, keep perpetuating the stereotype :slight_smile: [/quote]

No, this is first time I’ve actually responded to you. You’ve addressed me before and I’ve ignored you.

And what stereotype would that be, huh?

Man, you need to get out more, explore more and dip your pig dick into an angry pussy. Women are bat shit crazy, doesn’t matter what race they are. Didn’t you know that, lil’ boy?

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I think you’ve been mad at white people on this board ever since you got called a tranny in the t-vixen thread, amirite? [/quote]

Bwahahahahahah!! Fuck, man, my abs hurt already. Please enough with this fuckery.

Don’t you know all Tvixens get called trannies at some point? And, yes I’m a tranny, motherfucker! I got a bigger dick than you. Why would that make me mad at any white guy or any other person of colour who calls me out? LOL! Because I’m proud of my fucking big dick. I piss on you with my black dick, motherfucker! Psssssshhhhhhhh!!

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
You know, we had two all black clubs in this city and both got shut down within a year of each other for selling drugs. Hmmm.

Y u mad tho?[/quote]

Yeah… I get it… because others clubs are drugs free.

I ain’t even mad, yo. I’m just having fun with ya.
[/quote]

I thought you were done? You sure put quite a bit of time into making this post so pretty.

/baited

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
yah, not the same thing. But thanks for the link.
[/quote]
Sorry here is the link.

Thank you! You are very good with finding info.

but did you read the link?

[EXCERPT]
Extent of Use

The 2008 National Survey on Drug Use and Health showed that the highest rate of current (past month) illicit drug use was among persons [u]reporting two or more races (14.7%), followed by blacks/African Americans (10.1%), American Indian/Alaska Natives (9.5%), whites (8.2%)[/u], Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander (7.3%); and Hispanics (6.2%). The lowest rate of current illicit drug use was among Asians (3.6%).2

[END EXCERPT][/quote] Yeah and then I applied those percentages to actual population numbers showing that there are like 6 times as many white users as there are blacks. Waylander can only argue that black clubs selling drugs to only blacks had a bad business model, there are actually more whites to buy the drugs at the end of the day.
[/quote]

Should I just PM you as not to hijack the thread? It is not stating in regards to population, the statistics are regarding actual arrested drug users.

So, of arrested drug users:
two or more races (14.7%)
blacks/African Americans (10.1%)
American Indian/Alaska Natives (9.5%)
whites (8.2%)
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander (7.3%)
Hispanics (6.2%)
Asians (3.6%)

not by population, those statistics are by actual arrested drug users.
How are you reading that differently?

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I’m amazed that the Godwin’s law haven’t been put to use already.

Heil Hitler! i WON!

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Wow. Some of those other races need to step up their tactics for not getting caught.

Anyhow, I’ve had a festering anger since Saturday night.

The wife and I were leaving Applebees after hanging out with some friends. 1:20 in the morning, and as we leave the lot, a cop is heading up the driveway in the opposite direction. He turns and follows us down the driveway, and a couple hundred yards out lights us up. Standard pull over, except that we had not committed any moving violations. I say “What the fuck?” as my wife pulls over. Cop approaches, we wind down the window, license, registration, and all that jazz. We hand it over and he says he’ll explain why in a moment. Comes back to the window and says that he was investigating a call about a domestic dispute at the location we just left from, and we matched the description. He added that we both seemed O.K., and sorry for the inconvenience.

Heres the rub. He had no lawful reason to stop us. There was no domestic dispute at the location we just exited, and I know this because I was there. What he actually did was a fishing expedition on the good chance that he would catch a DUI in progress disguised with a lie. When my wife opened the window and there was no waft of booze fuming from the passenger cab, the cop needed a legitimate sounding reason for having violated our right to pass freely, so he had to make up a reasonable cause.

So, yeah, Fuck the police, and their idiotic, lying, thug tactics to impose fear and erode civil liberty.

From the mouth of my very wise and experienced attorney- “Cops are liars. They all do it. Fortunately for us, they are also idiots.”.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
yah, not the same thing. But thanks for the link.
[/quote]
Sorry here is the link.

Thank you! You are very good with finding info.

but did you read the link?

[EXCERPT]
Extent of Use

The 2008 National Survey on Drug Use and Health showed that the highest rate of current (past month) illicit drug use was among persons [u]reporting two or more races (14.7%), followed by blacks/African Americans (10.1%), American Indian/Alaska Natives (9.5%), whites (8.2%)[/u], Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander (7.3%); and Hispanics (6.2%). The lowest rate of current illicit drug use was among Asians (3.6%).2

[END EXCERPT][/quote] Yeah and then I applied those percentages to actual population numbers showing that there are like 6 times as many white users as there are blacks. Waylander can only argue that black clubs selling drugs to only blacks had a bad business model, there are actually more whites to buy the drugs at the end of the day.
[/quote]

Should I just PM you as not to hijack the thread? It is not stating in regards to population, the statistics are regarding actual arrested drug users.

So, of arrested drug users:
two or more races (14.7%)
blacks/African Americans (10.1%)
American Indian/Alaska Natives (9.5%)
whites (8.2%)
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander (7.3%)
Hispanics (6.2%)
Asians (3.6%)

not by population, those statistics are by actual arrested drug users.
How are you reading that differently?
[/quote]

I’m reading it the same way he is. It doesn’t seem to make sense reading it the way you are, otherwise where is the other 50% coming from? It states that Asians report the lowest rates of illicit drug use at 3.6%, so if your interpretation is correct, why have they omitted several racial groups with rates of drug use higher than that? The table below that sentence most definitely reflects percentage of the population using (note that the percentages add up to well over 100%), so why would they be switching their criteria around?