Seriously, F the Police

[quote]Professor X wrote:
They take one look at me and one hand goes and rests on their gun. try to be calm minutes after leaving the gym when that happens and the reason they pulled you over is because the car was too nice. I had that cop act like I was on drugs because my hands were shaking a little…but that was because I just finished a whole routine and had enough adrenalin running through me to fuel the Olympics.

The more they feel threatened, the more of an ass they act like…and I always get the little ones for some reason.[/quote]
This shit pisses me off, I don’t think the police should have any right to stop you without reason. This includes sobriety check points. If you want to have a check point then don’t get offended if I don’t want to tell you things not pertaining to sobriety.

A Law And Freedom without Violence (Anarchy)
B Law And Violence without Freedom (Despotism)
C Violence without Freedom And Law (Barbarism)
D Violence with Freedom And Law (Republic) --Kant

â??That this social order with its pauperism, famines, prisons, gallows, armies, and wars is necessary to society; that still greater disaster would ensue if this organization were destroyed; all this is said only by those who profit by this organization, while those who suffer from it â?? and they are ten times as numerous â?? think and say quite the contrary.â?? Leo Tolstoy

A Christian anarchist is therefore one who turns the other cheek, overturns the tables of the moneychangers, and does not need a cop to tell him how to behave. A Christian anarchist does not depend upon bullets or ballots to achieve his ideal; he achieves that ideal daily by the One-Man Revolution with which he faces a decadent, confused, and dying world. Ammon Hennacy

Some of the posters here who are defending these bad cops or just passing these incidents off as “shit happens”, need to wake up and smell the coffee. Or stop drinking the kool-aid (as you americans like to put it).

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
A Christian anarchist is therefore one who turns the other cheek, overturns the tables of the moneychangers, and does not need a cop to tell him how to behave. A Christian anarchist does not depend upon bullets or ballots to achieve his ideal; he achieves that ideal daily by the One-Man Revolution with which he faces a decadent, confused, and dying world. Ammon Hennacy[/quote]

QFT

How many Christians actually live up to that standard? Most are judging others, fanning flames of fires they started, and putting up walls.

When you think about it, by not answering Pilate when questioned, Jesus basically said, “Fuck the police”.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

QFT

How many Christians actually live up to that standard? Most are judging others, fanning flames of fires they started, and putting up walls.

When you think about it, by not answering Pilate when questioned, Jesus basically said, “Fuck the police”.[/quote]
Not many but Ammon Hennacy did.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Last week another group of black guys decided to curb stomp, literally curb stomp a white guy outside the club down the street after it was closing. These are just a few of the countless incidents I’ve witnessed and I’m sure you black folks have a million and one cop/white people stories so don’t even act all high and mighty on me with your equality BS.

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Pff!! I’m not even acting all high and mighty on you. Lol, who talked about equality, here? I just loathe you. Can’t you even sense it from my posts?

And you’re right, I have a million and one horror stories about white cop/people mistreating blacks that I’d lovely tell you --happened to me, my relatives or close friends or other blacks – but that doesn’t make me dislike 90 % of whole race in a state or wherever, or even stop me hanging out or fucking white folks.

Your problem is you’re dealing with what the French called ‘Racaille’. And you get racaille in all shapes and colour, comprende?

I told ya, find yourself a job at an all white night club and you’ll be all right, okay?

And although I dislike you --as an individual – peace out.
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haha, wow you are one angry woman! You’ve already called me a cunt, pig, said that you loathed me and disliked me and this is the first time we talked. Good job, keep perpetuating the stereotype :slight_smile:

I think you’ve been mad at white people on this board ever since you got called a tranny in the t-vixen thread, amirite?

You know, we had two all black clubs in this city and both got shut down within a year of each other for selling drugs. Hmmm.

Y u mad tho?

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Waylanderxx is obviously trolling. You people freak out over anything. Why are gregron and anonym the only calm and rational people in this thread? I will never understand the cop hate either…seems like everyone on the interwebz is quick to pass judgement. [/quote]

Damnit dude!

I’m reaching new levels of notoriety here! All the white people think Prof X is racist and now all the black people think I’m racist.

I’m trying to take over here and you’re fucking it up…[/quote]

Race war in 3,2,1…

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
point taken, i have no idea what kind of experience you have had with the police force, im not so naive to believe that abuse of power doesnt occur, and again we shouldnt accpet it, but i would wager that the majority of people who bitch about cops are people that people who have experinced a cop being a dick about a speeding ticket or busting up a party. most people have not experienced police brutality. With an organization as large as law enforcement, bad shit will happen, but most of cops are good and have poured their lives into protecting others, and they dont deserve to be held accountable for some rogue idiots actions. the individuals who’s actions are in question, and those who enabled those actions, which isnt the entire force, deserve the blame.[/quote]

You are completely misguided.

First, it shouldn’t matter what anyone’s personal experience with cops is; if there are abuses, they affect us all and should be rooted out. And we know for a fact that there are abuses and they are not necessarily “the exception”. There is certainly a pattern of conduct in some major cities and in some departments. It matters not whether someone experiences police brutality, NO ONE SHOULD SUFFER POLICE BRUTALITY. Yet, everyday someone does. And everyday, someone suffers an abuse of power. Ever. Single. Fucking. Day.

We have repeatedly stated this isn’t about “good cops”, but even what you refer to as “good cops” are NOT good cops of they stand idly by and do not inform on those that abuse their power. And they usually, overwhelmingly DO NOT. So no, you’re not a good cop of you witness an abuse of authority and just go along with the tide, anymore than you would be a “good guy” just because you didn’t participate in the gang rape of a girl that your “bad” friend participated in, but you stood idly by and did nothing.

Yes, THEY DO deserve to be held accountable. What the fuck is wrong with accountability. For crying out loud, you can take high school kids and put them in a military academy and you can make those teenage fuck nuts accountable for a classmate cheating, but you cannot LEO be held to a high standard? Are you fucking kidding me? Every “good” cop on the force of that department in the video IS accountable for that jerkoff in the video because guess what? I bet you one or more worked with the asshole and is aware of his conduct and prior transgressions. Do you think this cop was a rogue? LMFAO. I bet you my last dollar this is the manner in which he discharges his duties on a regular basis.

If you’re going to debate this, at least understand the issues and stop blindly defending “good cops” when we are talking about an institution that needs an overhaul

Step down from your fuckin pedestal for a moment, i have said over and over that it should not be accepted, have i not? I dont know how you can say that event like this dont qualify as an exception, i was unaware that you are the stat keeper for law enforcement, your are taking one event, not to say there hasnt been more, and applying it to everything. Either way when did i say anything about not being accountable? i said that innocent cops shouldn’t be subject to the same hate that shit head cops are, and im not talking about the video. You’re applying what happens in the academy to what happens in actual duty. Obviously when one fucks in sports, or in any academy, all are going to be punished. But does that mean if one does something all should be punished, and im not talking about the by standers that did nothing. Why should good cops be defended, they defend you every day

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Waylanderxx is obviously trolling. You people freak out over anything. Why are gregron and anonym the only calm and rational people in this thread? I will never understand the cop hate either…seems like everyone on the interwebz is quick to pass judgement. [/quote]

Damnit dude!

I’m reaching new levels of notoriety here! All the white people think Prof X is racist and now all the black people think I’m racist.

I’m trying to take over here and you’re fucking it up…[/quote]

Race war in 3,2,1…[/quote]

Who’s side am I on if I hate 90% of everyone?

[quote]xfactor3236 wrote:
Why should good cops be defended, they defend you every day[/quote]
Can I opt out? I can tell you the police are not here for my protection.

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

You know, we had two all black clubs in this city and both got shut down within a year of each other for selling drugs. Hmmm.

Y u mad tho?[/quote]
Your reasoning is very flawed. You think that selling drugs only happens in black clubs? The only thing that you demonstrated is that your city is discriminating against black clubs.

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Y u mad tho?[/quote]
Your reasoning is very flawed. You think that selling drugs only happens in black clubs? The only thing that you demonstrated is that your city is discriminating against black clubs. [/quote]
Minorities & Drugs

The 2006 National Survey on Drug Use and Health showed that the highest rate of current (past month) illicit drug use was among American Indian/Alaska Natives (13.7%), followed by blacks/African Americans (9.8%), persons reporting two or more races (8.9%), whites (8.5%), Native Hawaiian/other Pacific Islanders (7.5%), and Hispanics (6.9%). The lowest rate of current illicit drug use was among Asians (3.6%).

That means that there are 18,955,000 white drug users in the us and 3,815,073 black drug users.

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Y u mad tho?[/quote]
Your reasoning is very flawed. You think that selling drugs only happens in black clubs? The only thing that you demonstrated is that your city is discriminating against black clubs. [/quote]
Minorities & Drugs

The 2006 National Survey on Drug Use and Health showed that the highest rate of current (past month) illicit drug use was among American Indian/Alaska Natives (13.7%), followed by blacks/African Americans (9.8%), persons reporting two or more races (8.9%), whites (8.5%), Native Hawaiian/other Pacific Islanders (7.5%), and Hispanics (6.9%). The lowest rate of current illicit drug use was among Asians (3.6%).

That means that there are 18,955,000 white drug users in the us and 3,815,073 black drug users. [/quote]

*9.8% blacks/african americans
*8.5% whites

Um what? A higher percentage of blacks use drugs based off that survey then whites.

How the Police can “harass” you.

Recently, the Toronto Police Services board ran an e-mail forum (a question and answer exchange with the topic being “Community Policing.”
One of the civilian email participants posed the following question:
“I would like to know how it is possible for police officers to continually harass people and get away with it?”

From the “other side” (the law enforcement side) Sgt Berezowski a cop with a sense of humor (or reality) replied:

"First of all, let me tell you this…it’s not easy. In Toronto we average one cop for every 600 people. Only about 60% of those cops are on general duty (or what you might refer to as “patrol”) where we do most of our harassing. The rest are in non harrassing departments that do not allow them contact with the day to day innocents. And at any given moment, only one-fifth of the 60% patrollers are on duty and available for harassing people while the rest are off duty. So roughly, one cop is responsible for harassing about 5,000 residents.

When you toss in the commercial, business, and tourist locations that attract people from other areas, sometimes you have a situation where a single cop is responsible for harassing 10,000 or more people a day. Now, your average ten-hour shift runs 36,000 seconds long. This gives a cop one second to harass a person, and then only three-fourths of a second to eat a donut AND then find a new person to harass. This is not an easy task. To be honest, most cops are not up to this challenge day in and day out. It is just too tiring. What we do is utilize some tools to help us narrow down those people which we can realistically harass. The tools available to us are as follows:

PHONE: People will call us up and point out things that cause us to focus on a person for special harassment. “My neighbor is beating his wife” is a code phrase we often use. This means we’ll come out and give some special harassment. Another popular one is, “There’s a guy breaking into a house” or
“So and so has a grow op”. The harrassment team is then put into action.

CARS: We have special cops assigned to harass people who drive. They like to harass the drivers of fast cars, cars with no insurance or no drivers licence and the like. It’s lots of fun when you pick them out of traffic for nothing more obvious than running a red light. Sometimes you get to really heap the hassment on when you find they have drugs in the car, are drunk, or have a warrant.

RUNNERS: Some people take off running just at the sight of a police officer.
Nothing is quite as satisfying as running after them like a beagle on the scent of a bunny. When you catch them you can harass them for hours.

STATUTES: When we don’t have PHONE or CARS and have nothing better to do, there are actually books that give us ideas for reasons to harass folks.
They are called “Statutes”; Criminal Codes, Motor Vehicle, Liquor Act, etc… They all spell out all sorts of things for which you can really mess with people. After you read the statute, you can just drive around for awhile until you find someone violating one of these listed offences and harass them. Just last week I saw a guy smash a car window. Well, there’s this book we have that says that’s not allowed. That meant I got permission to harass this guy. It is a pretty cool system that we have set up, and it works pretty well.

I seem to have a never-ending supply of folks to harass. And we get away with it. Why? Because for the good citizens who pay the tab, we keep the streets safe for them. Next time you are in my town, give me a single
finger wave. That’s another code word.

Blacks make up a significantly lower portion of the population. That is why percentages are misleading.

If you do not understand that then you are ignorant which is forgivable, but you have a responsibility to educate yourself and digest the information. If you do understand and are trying to be funny the you continue to come across as being ignorant and racist, the combination is unforgivable if you are unwilling to educate yourself.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Waylanderxx is obviously trolling. You people freak out over anything. Why are gregron and anonym the only calm and rational people in this thread? I will never understand the cop hate either…seems like everyone on the interwebz is quick to pass judgement. [/quote]

Damnit dude!

I’m reaching new levels of notoriety here! All the white people think Prof X is racist and now all the black people think I’m racist.

I’m trying to take over here and you’re fucking it up…[/quote]

Race war in 3,2,1…[/quote]

Who’s side am I on if I hate 90% of everyone?[/quote]

You and Way should start your own white power movement. You live in the same state.

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Blacks make up a significantly lower portion of the population. That is why percentages are misleading.

If you do not understand that then you are ignorant which is forgivable, but you have a responsibility to educate yourself and digest the information. If you do understand and are trying to be funny the you continue to come across as being ignorant and racist, the combination is unforgivable if you are unwilling to educate yourself. [/quote]

I could definitely be wrong, but I was under the impression that those percentages are based on people actually arrested for drug use, not based on population.

Is that it, or is it based on population?

You can’t handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has sheep and those sheep have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? You! You BodyGuard! I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for criminals and you curse the police. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know; that criminals getting the shit kicked out of them by the police probably saves lives, and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don’t want the truth cause deep down inside places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me with that badge, you need me with that badge. We use words like honor, code, and loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something; you use them as a punchline. I have neither the time, nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just say thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and walk a beat. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you know.

Did you whip that piece of shit’s ass?

I did the job I was told to do.

Did you whip that piece of shit’s ass?!

You goddamn right I did!

-As a federal LEO, and on behalf of all LEO’s; go FUCK yourself.

/thread

I am a fan of the police, they do good work and the ones that don’t get lots of attention. I don’t know about other folk’s towns but we have civilian review boards that oversee issues here.

There are some bad cops, but there are more good cops, in my opinion. When cops go bad they should be treated harsher than a regular citizen because they should be held to a higher standard.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Blacks make up a significantly lower portion of the population. That is why percentages are misleading.

If you do not understand that then you are ignorant which is forgivable, but you have a responsibility to educate yourself and digest the information. If you do understand and are trying to be funny the you continue to come across as being ignorant and racist, the combination is unforgivable if you are unwilling to educate yourself. [/quote]

I could definitely be wrong, but I am was under the impression that those percentages are based on people actually arrested for drug use, not based on population.

Is that it, or is it based on population?

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That was based on population.