Serge Storms Experimentation Log - New Methods to Gain Muscle and Lose Fat

Crushed a one-hour session this morning. Chest, traps, shoulders, arms, legs, abs. Jump rope.

This creatine stuff is really doing it’s thing. I hit an all-time high weight yesterday of 201.6.

Intake Monday

3100 calories
460g C
228g P
63g F

That’s more carbs than I need, but I went on a little cereal excursion last night for some reason. Ended my day with 2 servings of coco-wheats, 2 bowls of honey nut cheerios, and 2 bowls of honey bunches of oats.

Carbs beget carbs, what can I say.

I don’t know if this is how it works for everyone, but for me, I tend to “dry out” as I get pumped throughout my workout. It seems like the sub-q water layer dissipates…some through sweat, and maybe some getting pulled into the muscle. Either way, the more “carbed up” I am going into the session, the longer it takes for this to happen. Today, it took almost 45 minutes before I started seeing some high-resolution separation. I know if I ease up on the carbs today, tomorrow will be a bit easier. I feel like it’s best to keep the carb tanks at about 90% or so. I’d say that’s in the 275-300g/day range for me.

I’ll try to drop down today even lower than that, just to get a better rebound for tomorrow’s workout.

From a leanness standpoint, the best call would be to keep fats at 60g and make up the difference with protein. But from a health and sustainability standpoint, I’m finding it better to replace those calories with fat instead - focusing on good sources, which are pretty easy to find around my house. Protein is protein, it seems to take care of itself without thinking about it too much. Forcing a high protein intake (above 260 consistently), especially if I want to focus on whole food sources, becomes a real drag. I’d rather hit a bunch of protein pulses and always leave room for a big solid protein source at dinner and just be done with it.

So today I’ll shoot for something like 2800-3000 cals, 250g C, 200g P, 110g F.

Wondering if you could outline what your ‘average’ workout would entail? (noting its pretty random as per your OP).

Still here following.

[quote]raven78 wrote:
Wondering if you could outline what your ‘average’ workout would entail? (noting its pretty random as per your OP).

Still here following.[/quote]

Sure, here’s what a typical workout looks like:

I usually do some stretching and pick up some light DBs for about 5 minutes.

Sometimes I will simulate different athletic moves like tennis forehands and golf swings while holding anything between a 5-15 pound DB. I’ll also hang from the pullup bar to stretch things out, do some bodyweight squats and different lower body stretches, and then maybe some light front and lateral raises/swings.

^Depending on how things feel while I’m doing that, I usually decide if I’ll focus on a bodypart that day or keep feeling things out.

Meanwhile, I’m also flipping through Pandora stations to find a song that seems to fit my mood.

Once that all happens, I usually dive into a “set” of something. Let’s say bicep curls, since that’s probably what I start with most often.

I do most things with one DB and switch arms frequently…how frequently depends on what I feel…if I want to create some burn, I’ll stay with one arm for a long time. If I want to prolong the set as long as possible, I’ll switch more frequently. If I want to just get a pump, I’ll go by more by how things look and feel.

So I’ll do variations of standing DB curls, using a mix of smooth reps, squeezing reps, twitch reps, pulse reps, drop-and-catch, holds, super slow, etc.

If I can finish out the entire song just doing this first movement, great. But usually, I’ll end up transitioning to a different movement like front raises, lateral raises, rear delt fly, cross-pec fly, overhead tricep extension, kickbacks, high pulls…you name it.

I’ll throw one of those movements in and then usually go back to biceps again to finish out the song.

Then, a new song comes on and depending on how I feel, I’ll either keep at it with a similar DB set, but usually a different focus. I might go to more of a rear-delt fly based set and try to just crush my rear delts. Here I might use bicep curls as a rest between the delt work…whatever it takes to finish out the song.

Sometimes, the song makes me want to hit the cables, so maybe I’ll wander over there and crank out a song’s worth of whatever - same kinds of movements and contraction types I listed above, just with cables. Usually I’ll focus on one thing, like maybe triceps, and use other movements to keep the set going.

The main thing is that once a song starts, I pretty much don’t stop moving until it’s done.

Sometimes, I’ll string three songs together without much rest at all. Other times, I might take longer breaks to grab some water or walk over to the other side of the gym.

Usually by about 20 minutes into it, something comes on that goes good with the jump rope, so I’ll grab that and go do one or two songs with the rope. Usually, I’ll throw in a few circuits of different plank and pushup variations and some pistol squats in there.

Then I’ll go back out and usually hit up whatever bodypart I’m focused on, but usually with a machine or maybe the smith machine…something different. I’ll crank out a song or two there, and then I’ll go back to the DBs and crank out another few songs.

Usually at the end, I’ll throw in a set (song)of situps on the ab rocker type machine.

These average about 60 minutes. If it’s humid and hot enough, I’ll usually be dripping sweat by the end - just to give you an idea of the intensity. I probably burn about 600 calories and my average HR might be around 130-140…depends on how much jump rope because that’s the most intense part.

Oh…and pull-ups. I throw those in throughout the session…usually every day, but some days when I’m feeling it, I’ll really make it a focus. Other days, I might just grease the groove a bit and leave it at that. Usually I can feel this more in my grip strength, as my back and arms seem to have really built up some capacity. I just cranked out set of 20 strict, slow, full-range wide grip pull-ups at the very end of my workout today. Felt like a beast.

That’s about it. I do this about 6 days/week and so far, I have not burnt out. That’s probably because at any given time during any given workout, I’m always paying attention to how things feel and I’m scaling back the intensity whenever something feels drained.

Diet Last Week

Average calories 3500/day

350g C
195g P
140g F

Monday morning weight: 197

^Those numbers are a reflection of a piss-poor diet this past week, but it was a holiday so what can you do. Well, I guess you could stick to some kind of fucking plan is what you could do, but I didn’t.

However, this week I will be sticking to the following plan:

1900 calories/day
180g Protein
180g Carb
50g Fat

My goal is to drop some fluff before a big event this weekend. Those macro targets are basically what I feel are realistic numbers to hit without too much suffering. One thing I don’t bother counting is fat grams from fish oil, so my average daily total fat intake will probably be something more like 58 or so. A few big swigs from the Carlson’s bottle every day, basically.

After the weekend, I plan to then increase my average weekly calorie intake back up to the 3000-3,200 range while hitting some more reasonable macro numbers and more solid food choices. I would like to ride out the rest of this summer in a fairly shredded state, and right now my trajectory is kind of going in the opposite direction. I’m adding what feels like a shitload of muscle these days…if it wasn’t for all the Carbolin 19-19, seven, and MAG-10, I would probably be a sloppy mess.

Instead, I’m in that strange zone where vascularity and hardness seem to keep increasing, especially in my calves and arms, while my weight and probably my waist measurement are increasing. I don’t often go through stretches for this long where I’m eating a pretty big surplus but also lifting my balls off and also being super active. The results are kind of fun but not quite as fun as being super lean. The flip-side of this metabolic state is that when the fat-loss switch is fully flipped, shit happens fast.

So, switch flipped. I predict something like 193.5-194.5ish on the scale by Saturday morning - anywhere from 2-5 pounds. If I could hold under 192ish until maybe October, then I’ll think about flipping the switch back the other way, we’ll see. Big Cancun trip in October to celebrate our 40th birthdays, so obviously I’m gonna be shooting for best ever shape by then. I’d rather coast into it than have to actually “diet” for it…I just need to go back and strengthen my eating habits so I can get back into android mode where nothing phases me.

Monday AM Training

Arms and shoulders. Mostly biceps.

Some floor work - planks, push-ups, holds, etc.

About 6 minutes of intense jump rope

Some very strict, smooth WEIGHTED pull-ups (20 lb. DB in feet)

I went into this session feeling cold and cranky, but about halfway through I hit my groove and started dominating. I was dripping sweat and pretty euphoric by the end of the hour. That is why I like this style of training. No pressure to really do anything at any given time, just feel things out and it almost never fails, I find a groove somewhere.

I have been using a TON of this new rep style I’ve been developing. The best way I can describe it is robot-type pop-locking with dumbbells. And WITHIN these reps, I’m also introducing more and more “micro-oscillation” stuff, to borrow CT’s term.

It’s basically “shivering”. Here’s part of what Wikipedia says about shivering:

“Increased muscular activity results in the generation of heat as a byproduct. Most often, when the purpose of the muscle activity is to produce motion, the heat is wasted energy. In shivering, the heat is the main intended product and is utilized for warmth.”

So, what I think I might be doing is basically taking small isolation-type partial range movements and significantly increasing the energy demand with this “shivering” type of component.

At first, I was literally pretty shaky with this stuff. I could induce the shaking, but it was loose, uncontrolled, and kind of random. But now I’ve really started to master it, where I can match these little micro-contractions to the fastest, smallest beats in the music.

The other advantage is the tension increase on the muscle. It’s like a maximum contraction/constant tension type of rep, but with a thousand tiny micro-rest periods in between. It allows sets to be extended a little bit. I’ve been topping these sets off with slower sets where the muscle is squeezed like a sponge, and the pumps are pretty skin-splitting.

I also notice that different muscles are better/worse or maybe more or less trained to produce good micro-contractions with high intensity and resolution. The quads, for example, at max extension, can produce an extremely intense contraction but also some pretty good micro-contractions. Hamstrings are a bit more difficult, but they can be improved pretty dramatically.

Micro-contractions on pulling motions like pull-ups and pull-downs can be pretty difficult…you have to stick to very small ranges within partial range reps to get it going.

Lateral raises are one of my favorites, and obviously bicep curls. Triceps are a bit more difficult. With very strict DB kickbacks at full extension and contraction, there is some magic to be found with micro-contractions. Overhead DB extensions are not as good. For those, I prefer to do explosive reps from a stretch or resting position (DB rests on the trap between each rep), not to full extension, and with a violent squeezing contraction at the 3/4 extended position (top of the range that I use for these).

Abs are amazing for micro-contractions. Any movement where it happens naturally is a good one. Probably everyone has felt that sensation of your whole body shaking when you are doing difficult sit-up variations. That is something that can be easily harnessed and turned into a real progress accelerator, in my opinion.

Monday

1915 Calories
180g P
165g C
58g F

Nailed it, it was a pretty easy day.

Tuesday AM Weight - 195.2 (-2)

Training Tuesday
60 minutes

mostly legs with some upper body stuff between sets

For legs, I did a bunch of bodyweight squat variations, low cable hamstring and glute work, leg extensions, and a few extremely sharp and slow and perfect pistol squats. I fucking own pistol squats now, it’s insane.

Two extremely intense jump rope circuits (3-4 minutes each)

Ab “walkouts” using the rope at the cable machine. This movement starts by grabbing the rope like you’re going to do tricep pushdowns, and then tensing up the entire body and walking the feet back until you are in a plank position with your body as stiff as a board at about a 45 degree angle to the ground. You have to select a weight that will counter your body weight and then some, so you can then do different contractions against the resistance when you are in the planked position.
TRY THESE!

I could feel the difference without the MAG-10 pre-workout today. I went with just BCAAs instead and felt a bit flat without the sodium. I also only had about 1500 mg of sodium yesterday.

But this is all normal and expected at the beginning of a “cut” (if you could call this that). I expect to look a little soft and flat on the way down and it will be interesting to see where my weight levels off. I’m guessing I’ll drop another two pounds over the next two days and then have a look at where things stand.

Magic Numbers - Today’s Macro Targets

2600 Calories

285g C (44%)
215g P (33%)
66g F (23%)

Today’s Numbers

2200 cal
225 g P
195 g C
45 g F

Appreciate the extra info in your thread of late too.

(I’ve been adding tabata routines recently with plenty of body weight exercises that seem easy but become brutal pretty quickly!)

[quote]raven78 wrote:
Appreciate the extra info in your thread of late too.

(I’ve been adding tabata routines recently with plenty of body weight exercises that seem easy but become brutal pretty quickly!)[/quote]

Cool. Glad the extra info is appreciated!

Tabata. I tried it a few times on the bike and can only imagine how hard it would be for other movements.

Wednesday

1900 calories

130 g P
200g C
60g F

Running averages this week - 190g C, 180g P, 55g F
Killing it.

Training Wednesday - 60 minutes

DB Work-

Bicep curl variations - pump squeeze reps, twitch reps, shiver reps, drop and catch
Overhead tricep extensions and kickbacks
Curl and Press
High Pulls
Swings
Lateral, front, and rear delt work

Smith Machine Work-
(this was done with various contraction techniques, mostly drop-and-catch or throw-and-catch)
front raises
curls
upright rows
lateral raises
hybrid upright row-front raise

Cable work-
Bicep curls
front, side, rear delt work
mid-back and trap work

Pull-Up Bar work-
I did a few normal-ish looking sets of strict pull-ups, maybe 4 sets of 12 or so.
simulated monkey bar work
1-arm stretch and hang
partials and holds
windshield wipers
explosive reps with a catch and hold at the top
partials where I held on with two hands but mostly stressed one lat

I like to wear a tank-top when doing pullups because it helps me connect with my lats on those partials. It helps when I can see my lats at maximum contraction because it lets me know where that is so I can really focus on that range.

Full-range pull-ups are pretty useless, in my opinion. Unless you just want to get better at full-range pull-ups. But for lat stimulation, there is a very specific range that tends to get bypassed or only slightly stimulated during a full range pull-up.

Here’s how a pull-up article would look if I wrote it-

Wide grip. Pull until the lats flare out to maximum cobra. Work that range of motion with various techniques. Autoregulate volume and frequency but at least get on the bar every single day to see how you feel.
Oh, and don’t even bother with trying to improve by x amount over x time. Just make it a habit to do them, detach from the result, keep your nose down for about 8 months, and when you finally look up you’ll be a badass on the pull-up bar. Hopefully with bigger lats if that’s what you’re aiming for.

Side note on autoregulation - I tend to leave way more reps in the tank than what most people probably do. I’m not looking to chase fatigue on these or even nibble on the corners of fatigue. I’m looking to totally dominate the pull-up bar…sometimes that means I want to be explosive, other times slow and controlled, but I never want to feel drained from pull-ups.

Side note on elbow pain and pull-ups. Best way to keep the elbows happy is, once again, autoregulation. Stop at the first sign of any elbow pain and just try again tomorrow. The other best way is to stick with partials. The hands want to twist through the full range of motion, but on the pull-up bar they are obviously fixed. I think elbow issues are a result of a twisting torque type of force that the elbows go through when they cannot rotate through the full range of motion.

More people should try the general style of training I’m doing. Depending on how you are wired, it may or may not be a fit. But I can say one thing for sure, this shit really works. I have never seen myself look like this, it’s insane. I saw a bunch of people over the 4th and I was getting some “holy shit” responses, so I know it’s not in my head.

My wife says she liked my look better when I was about five pounds lighter. She thinks I’m getting too big. Silly, silly woman.

I think it’s a good idea to kick-start a mini-cut by going as low as possible for the first few days. Shit, even do a full-day fast if possible.

Not so much to get faster results. When it comes to leanness and results, for me anyway, it’s all about TIME. How long am I willing to keep hitting my numbers? If I hit my numbers for 4 weeks in a row, I’ll get to a certain level of leanness. If I want to get even leaner, I need to extend that to 6 or 8 weeks. Leaner? 10 weeks. It’s as simple as that.

But the reason to start a cut or mini-cut with a few very low days is more about just mentally slapping yourself upside the head.

I’m finding that it helps to go low carb for as long as possible just to kill the appetite. I guess this only applies to carb-based lifeforms like me. If you are a chronic low-carber, then you probably don’t have an appetite problem to deal with anyway.

I would define “low carb” as about half the amount you’ve been averaging. So if your a 300/day person, then 150/day is probably low enough, maybe 120 would be good. I don’t see a need to go below 100. I’ve tried it and that’s pretty low.

So… low carb for a few days to kill the appetite. Then settle into your cutting macros. If you don’t know your cutting macros by now, then figure it out. For me, it’s about 2600-2800 calories to start with, less than 70 grams of fat (55g is ideal), 180-220 g protein, and 200-280ish grams of carbs.

I see some of these diets with zero-carb “induction” periods of 10 days or 2 weeks or whatever. That’s way too long for normal people. You just need to go low carb and low calorie for long enough to drop the initial fluff and water and slap your silly food issues upside the head, and then quickly settle into your cruising altitude.

Anyway, this is what works for me when I feel like it’s time to flip the switch and clean up my shit a little bit.

  1. Get super shredded so I can freak people out at the pool this year during our spring vacation.

Check.

Nice physique man.

[quote]barbedwired wrote:

  1. Get super shredded so I can freak people out at the pool this year during our spring vacation.

Check.

Nice physique man. [/quote]

Thanks!

Got another one of those pool events coming in October when about 8 couples will be in Cancun to celebrate a bunch of 40th birthdays.

I’ll be coming in full guns blazing for that one.

Thursday Training

I tweaked my back a bit, nothing major. One of those back spasms type deals right under the scap area. It happened when I sneezed the other day. Seriously.

Anyway, I can still do everything, but some stuff is just annoying and I’ve had this before so I know I need to back of just a little so I don’t prolong the process. I went and got a quick ART sesh yesterday just to jump start things and it already feels a bit better today. The tennis ball is my friend for the next few days.

I still managed to do a 45 minute session, but mainly just some basic contraction and pump work for the whole body with some jump rope circuits.

Thursday Intake

2400 calories
290g C
170g P
71g F

Averages so far this week:
212 C
180 P
60 F

Those are a little low, but for me that is a great problem to have.

Weight: 194

Playing tennis today for the first time in forever. Probably not the best idea for this back tweak, but it’s too nice out and this guy who asked me to play is a great old friend who I never see, so it’s on.

To make the most of it, I’ve kept my tanks empty so far today (Friday)…just a scoop of MAG-10, some strawberries, and a few swigs of Omega Man Fish Oil, Mocha Java flavored. Chocolate Fish Oil. What will they think of next. Then post-tennis, I’ll ride it out for as long as possible with just MAG-10 and maybe some fruit. This should set me up for one of those magical rebound pumps for the later part of the day.

Friday

2400 cal
140g P
290g C
50g F

Saturday Training
Super High Rep Leg Ext
Bis and Tris
Jump Rope

192.4 this morning
Feeling dry and pretty flat, but I was leaner than expected when the fluff layer subsided. Nice.

[quote]Serge A. Storms wrote:
To make the most of it, I’ve kept my tanks empty so far today (Friday)…just a scoop of MAG-10, some strawberries, and a few swigs of Omega Man Fish Oil, Mocha Java flavored. Chocolate Fish Oil. What will they think of next.[/quote]
Heh. How does that taste?

Chocolate protein powder with lemon fish oil I thought was a pretty good combo.

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Serge A. Storms wrote:
To make the most of it, I’ve kept my tanks empty so far today (Friday)…just a scoop of MAG-10, some strawberries, and a few swigs of Omega Man Fish Oil, Mocha Java flavored. Chocolate Fish Oil. What will they think of next.[/quote]
Heh. How does that taste?

Chocolate protein powder with lemon fish oil I thought was a pretty good combo.[/quote]

The Omega Man Fish Oil tastes awesome. I go through a bottle of it way too fast. Protein powder with fish oil…I think I’ll pass on that one!

196.2 this morning.

We had a big party for my 40th birthday Saturday night.

So…if I don’t count what I consumed between on Saturday night, last week ended up averaging:

2250 calories
180g P
240g C
66g F

Here’s those averages when the Saturday night binge is included:

2800 calories
180g P
260g C
80g F

That’s not good. Too much fat and alcohol. Stupid shit like peanuts and dark chocolate M&Ms, but also just nasty shit like some of the homemade appetizers and Hooters wings and Caesar salad.

My goals this week:

Determine the number of days it takes to get back down to 192.5.
Hit my numbers every day for the next seven.
Hit my numbers every day for the next seven.
Hit my numbers every day for the next seven.
Hit my numbers every day for the next seven.
Hit my numbers every day for the next seven.
Hit my numbers every day for the next seven.
Hit my numbers every day for the next seven.

The Numbers:

2700 calories max

Protein - 180-220
Fats - no higher than 90g (30%)
Carbs - whatever is left

Basically, I’m shooting for “Zone” macros as ceiling…I’m okay with fat intake up to 30%, but nothing higher.

If it turns out that I eat at 40/30/30 for the entire week, AND I’ve stayed under 2700, then I know I’ll see good results.
If it turns out that I’m in android mode and can easily lock into a lower fat intake, I can fill in the rest with carbs.
There is no lower limit of fat intake, therefore no need for an upper limit of carb intake.
In other words, I just know that a fat intake below about 40g/day is just not gonna happen. A day at 40g of fat would leave room for 360g of carbs max. That’s fine - that kind of a day will actually accelerate progress a little bit, but it’s just too low in fat to be able to sustain for three months.

The goal here is to build enough flexibility into the plan so that I can feel like I’m being successful most of the time.
A sense of failure tends to disrupt positive behavior patterns in perfectionists like me, so I think it’s a good long-term strategy for me to set myself up for success.

Sometimes I go back through my logs to see if I can find cause-and-effect connections that I may have forgotten about or just never realized.

It’s hard to go back and analyze supplement efficacy because I don’t really log that stuff enough and my Lose It! app doesn’t capture it. Which is good, because I’m already on that thing enough as it is.

Anyway, doing a favor to my future self here and recording my

CURRENT SUPPLEMENT INTAKE

1-3 scoops of MAG-10/day.
1-2 scoops of hydro whey or other staple protein powder
a few swigs of liquid fish oil and/or
a bunch of swigs of Omega Man chocolate fish oil
a scoop of a fiber powder (smartfiber something or other)
probiotic 3 pills/day
Carbolin 19 2-4 caps/day (currently taking a few weeks off)
Se7en 1-2 caps/day (currently taking a few weeks off)
peptide-bonded BCAAs - 2-4 servings/day

Sometimes I’ll have a few days of travel and usually I’ll just skip most supplements on those trips.


I’m working on a project that involves sitting at my computer waiting for things to happen, so here I am in my log again.

Lose It! App - Quick Thoughts

I stopped using “Net Calories” on my Lose It app and now I just pay attention to food calories consumed.

Factoring all the different activities and workouts into my numbers causes more harm than good.

If I play tennis for two hours, I tend to be more than happy to put those calories right back by eating an extra 1,200 that day.

Well, over time, those insidious little dietary excursions add up. Eating more to match your output is a habit that can develop pretty easily, and I don’t think it’s a good one.

The reason is that the body adapts so quickly to changes in output. Check out the ESPN “Bodies” edition where they have all the naked pics of pro athletes. Tennis players should be absolutely shredded, but most are not very ripped.

My current plan suggests 2,145 calories per day (without exercise) if I want to lose 1lb/week. That turns out to be a good number for me. My typical training session burns about 600 calories, which ends up putting me at about 2700 calories in…which is the number I would have come up with anyway.

So now, I just plug in a generic 600 calories of output on my workout days, even if they are slightly more or less intense than that. Added benefit of this approach is that I’ve ditched the heart rate monitor, which was never a big hassle or anything, but it’s been nice to simplify things one level.

I still enter extra activities, but since I’m putting a hard cap on calories in at 2700, those extra activities really only serve to increase my deficit. Which, by the way, brings me to another observation:

Energy balance seems to work more as predicted when exercise is helping to increase a deficit compared to when exercise is used to make room for calories above maintenance intake.

In other words, if I eat 2700 calories and burn 600, I’ll see good results.

But if I eat 3300 and burn 1200 (still the same net 2100), not so much. This is where G-Flux seems to stop working. High input/High output is a good strategy for improving your overall metabolism and maybe even for long-term maintenance of an athletic physique. But when you want to get more shredded, it won’t get you there.

That’s probably why you don’t read about contest prep diets with 4,000 calories in and 2,000 calories out, but you see plenty of 2,000 in and none out.

I just file this type of stuff under “shit that I seem to need to keep proving to myself over and over.”

So I’m a little confused trying to follow that. I used Lose It for a 5 week mini-cut (using it for logging mainly, but using my own calculations) so I’m at least a bit familiar.

I got the 2100 on non-workout days and 2700 on workout days part. And setting a hard cap at 2700.

But with respect to other activities, are you just suggesting to just cap your intake at 2700 no matter what else you do? (And just letting that deficit accumulate in your weekly numbers). Or are you ALSO suggesting to avoid doing any other activities?

Do you think that “lifting” is the only activity that should drive up your available calories?