Sen. Warren and End of the Minimum Wage Debate

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
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Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves. [/quote]

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves. [/quote]

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:
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Everyone benefited before the collapse. People got houses they couldn’t afford, banks made tons of money, the banking industry had a ton of jobs, and the gov had a stimulated economy. When the bubble burst people lost their house and jobs, banks closed, tax payers suffered.

Who got this “BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with NO DOWN SIDE,” that you speak of?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Democrats and far lefties that are either too young or too stupid to look at the ills of collective governments throughout history.

People that got houses they could not afford , got them for a year or 2 bankers that orchestrated the debacle got their money and kept it . Like I say follow the money

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People that got houses they could not afford , got them for a year or 2 bankers that orchestrated the debacle got their money and kept it . Like I say follow the money [/quote]

Follow the Money. People that got houses they could not afford received free rent for 2 years. They got theirs too.

I am in the camp of everyone got something and everyone is to blame, except the taxpayers and the people that are paying their mortgage on time every month.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
bankers that orchestrated the debacle got their money and kept it [/quote]

Because… And Drumroll… of the government.

Otherwise, they would have been flat on their ass as they should have been.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
except the taxpayers and the people that are paying their mortgage on time every month.[/quote]

I called my bank in 2009 or early 2010, and demanded a refi.

They said no.

I said, “oh look at that, I can’t afford to pay my mortage anymore.”

“What, you are way ahead of your scheduled payments”

“Correct, and seeing I’m one of the suckers that pays his bills in the country, I want a bail out too.”

“Sir I can only give you…”

“I’m not paying my mortgage until the papers are in my hand.”

and I hung up. Manager called me back in about an hour, and we refi’ed down to the 4’s.

lol

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People that got houses they could not afford , got them for a year or 2 bankers that orchestrated the debacle got their money and kept it . Like I say follow the money [/quote]

How many of those poor people who got homes they could not afford, took out equity loans (remember, this is with no money down, so they have nothing initially invested), and then walked away intentionally ?

Some of these people walked away with $100k or more, with nothing more than a shitty ding on their credit rating.

Pitt, did you know this scam is happening again right now, but with FHA loans ?

“There is evidently no idea bad enough and no failure severe enough to stop the government from trying it once again. In myopia remarkable even by abysmal government standards, the White House is pushing for policies that fueled the housing bubble, which burst a mere five years ago. Reintroducing those policies at this stage of a nascent recovery in the housing market will set the stage for repeating history, and very likely leave taxpayers on the hook once again for another bailout.”

Obama is setting up another crash.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People that got houses they could not afford , got them for a year or 2 bankers that orchestrated the debacle got their money and kept it . Like I say follow the money [/quote]

How many of those poor people who got homes they could not afford, took out equity loans (remember, this is with no money down, so they have nothing initially invested), and then walked away intentionally ?

Some of these people walked away with $100k or more, with nothing more than a shitty ding on their credit rating.

Pitt, did you know this scam is happening again right now, but with FHA loans ?

“There is evidently no idea bad enough and no failure severe enough to stop the government from trying it once again. In myopia remarkable even by abysmal government standards, the White House is pushing for policies that fueled the housing bubble, which burst a mere five years ago. Reintroducing those policies at this stage of a nascent recovery in the housing market will set the stage for repeating history, and very likely leave taxpayers on the hook once again for another bailout.”

Obama is setting up another crash. [/quote]

Buy the shit out of Fannie May and Freddie Mac. Sell again when they go exponential right before the plummet.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves. [/quote]

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Everyone benefited before the collapse. People got houses they couldn’t afford, banks made tons of money, the banking industry had a ton of jobs, and the gov had a stimulated economy. When the bubble burst people lost their house and jobs, banks closed, tax payers suffered.

Who got this “BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with NO DOWN SIDE,” that you speak of?[/quote]

News flash: the banks!

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves. [/quote]

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Everyone benefited before the collapse. People got houses they couldn’t afford, banks made tons of money, the banking industry had a ton of jobs, and the gov had a stimulated economy. When the bubble burst people lost their house and jobs, banks closed, tax payers suffered.

Who got this “BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with NO DOWN SIDE,” that you speak of?[/quote]

News flash: the banks!
[/quote]

I totally agree , if the little guy would have made HUGE gains we would have PEOPLE IN PRISON

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

News flash: the banks!
[/quote]

I totally agree , if the little guy would have made HUGE gains we would have PEOPLE IN PRISON
[/quote]

Pitt if you agree with Zep then you have been knocked down a notch on the respect meter.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves. [/quote]

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Everyone benefited before the collapse. People got houses they couldn’t afford, banks made tons of money, the banking industry had a ton of jobs, and the gov had a stimulated economy. When the bubble burst people lost their house and jobs, banks closed, tax payers suffered.

Who got this “BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with NO DOWN SIDE,” that you speak of?[/quote]

News flash: the banks!
[/quote]

I totally agree , if the little guy would have made HUGE gains we would have PEOPLE IN PRISON
[/quote]

Blame your boy Barackulous for no one being in prison, he is the prezzy.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

I am fucking laughing my asss of :slight_smile: :slight_smile: Sorry , thanks :):slight_smile:

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves. [/quote]

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Everyone benefited before the collapse. People got houses they couldn’t afford, banks made tons of money, the banking industry had a ton of jobs, and the gov had a stimulated economy. When the bubble burst people lost their house and jobs, banks closed, tax payers suffered.

Who got this “BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with NO DOWN SIDE,” that you speak of?[/quote]

News flash: the banks!
[/quote]

I totally agree , if the little guy would have made HUGE gains we would have PEOPLE IN PRISON
[/quote]

Blame your boy Barackulous for no one being in prison, he is the prezzy. [/quote]

I am fucking laughing my asss of :slight_smile: :slight_smile: Sorry , thanks :):slight_smile:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves. [/quote]

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Everyone benefited before the collapse. People got houses they couldn’t afford, banks made tons of money, the banking industry had a ton of jobs, and the gov had a stimulated economy. When the bubble burst people lost their house and jobs, banks closed, tax payers suffered.

Who got this “BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with NO DOWN SIDE,” that you speak of?[/quote]

News flash: the banks!
[/quote]

Thanks for that insight…

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

News flash: the banks!
[/quote]

I totally agree , if the little guy would have made HUGE gains we would have PEOPLE IN PRISON
[/quote]

Pitt if you agree with Zep then you have been knocked down a notch on the respect meter.[/quote]

WOW I AM GOING TO LOSE SLEEP OVER THAT ONE .

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

News flash: the banks!
[/quote]

I totally agree , if the little guy would have made HUGE gains we would have PEOPLE IN PRISON
[/quote]

Pitt if you agree with Zep then you have been knocked down a notch on the respect meter.[/quote]

WOW I AM GOING TO LOSE SLEEP OVER THAT ONE .
[/quote]

Try this…srsly…srsly bro.

http://www.T-Nation.com/store/products/z-12

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Banks definitely put themselves first.

I am not absolving any one of anything , if they failed to pay their loan they will pay the price they lost their house they pay higher APRs on all credit , their Insurance will go up , they could lose their job
[/quote]

I am fucking laughing my asss of :slight_smile: :slight_smile: Sorry , thanks :):slight_smile:

Thank you, that was all I was saying. There is plenty of blame to go around. Consumers included. [/quote]

It wouldn’t be crazy to cut the balme pie in 4 slices: borrowers & lenders, investment banks, AIG & government policy.

Whole lot of hands in that cookie jar, and anyone saying any one member of that group casued it is a hack, or one political party or one regulation or policy or whatever. People who think like that are lying to themselves. [/quote]

My point is (YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY) it tells who made a BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with (NO DOWN SIDE) :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Everyone benefited before the collapse. People got houses they couldn’t afford, banks made tons of money, the banking industry had a ton of jobs, and the gov had a stimulated economy. When the bubble burst people lost their house and jobs, banks closed, tax payers suffered.

Who got this “BIG FUCKING BENEFIT with NO DOWN SIDE,” that you speak of?[/quote]

News flash: the banks!
[/quote]

I totally agree , if the little guy would have made HUGE gains we would have PEOPLE IN PRISON
[/quote]

Blame your boy Barackulous for no one being in prison, he is the prezzy. [/quote]

I am fucking laughing my asss of :slight_smile: :slight_smile: Sorry , thanks :):)[/quote]

I am not trying to be a dick, but Obama could have gone after those guys if he wanted to.