Hi guys! New here
Some info: 35yo 95kg 188cm 24%bf
Inconsistency with training for several years and had 1 x Test-E 12 week cycle many moons ago.
I want to run
Test-E 1-12 / 500mg pw
Winstrol 6-12 / 50mg daily
“PCT”
I am getting such confliciting advice the more i search for the ideal PCT for this cycle.
What is have at my disposal is
Nolvodex and Arimidex.
Please i ask some clear cut info, greatly greatly appreciated.
Thank you
You need to get this in check before you think about cycling.
Also need to get consistent in the gym while you bring your bodyfat down before you proceed.
What does your diet and training currently look like?
Really i dont want to sound rude at all but i really just want the the answer to question in hand.
Everything is good, i really am just looking for a solid answer.
Thanks bud
He gave you the correct answer. If you want stupid, ignorant answers, this is not the place.
Sometimes to achieve something, its not about what you do and what you take, but about what you dont do and dont take. In this case, you need to focus on basic, and jump on steroids AFTER you learned something.
You admit you are fat and lack discipline. No amount of steroids will fix that.
Jeeezus man.
This is exactly the reason new people cant find a answer and mess things up because nobody gvies a straight answer.
So what do i need to do…
Add “for research purposes” in my question?
Am i fat? No did i lack discipline in the past? Yes
If i change the stats to near perfect then i’ll jist get another answer that goes off on a tangent.
Too quick to judge man.
Can you please try for one second that you or anyone else could please try and give an educated answer to the specific question?
Im not asking the world. Sigh
PCTs have been laid out on here dozens of times. Try the search bar. Every forum I’m on seems to have unwritten rules of conduct the members are accustomed to. For this forum, you generally need to lay out your own PCT, after researching, and then ask for input. Further, this forum generally practices harm mitigation when it comes to pharma. Those that don’t understand the basics, such as yourself, combined with a “not ready” physique are not going to get much help.
PCT… you pick a SERM which is going to be either Nolvadex of Clomid. You start the PCT after your last pin, when 3-4 half lives of your longest ester have passed. Why? Because after your last pin you still have drugs in your system and if you start too soon the PCT won’t work. For you you will base your timing off of Test E. So you would pick your SERM (Nolva), wait the appropriate time, and take it for 4-6 weeks.
The first thing would be for him to attend the gym on the days he must attend, and learn to do the basic work and then think about chemistry ???
It is tough to give straight answers, because not everyone is the same. Not everyone has the same goals.
There isn’t an ideal PCT. Most doing the cycle you are doing would do fine with waiting 3-4 weeks after their last Test shot, then running 40 mg/day Nolva for two weeks, followed by 20 mg/day for two weeks. You could also do 20 mg/day for 6 weeks, or extend the taper longer. Ideal to me, means a fast recovery that gets you back to your starting out Test levels. For that, running HCG throughout the cycle, and upping it during the bridge between the cycle and PCT would get you closer to ideal.
Back to your goals. What are you looking to accomplish? I don’t think 24% BF is necessarily too fat to use gear if your goals make sense. Some example goals that would make sense at your body fat would be strength sports (weightlifting, powerlifting, strongman).
Thank you very much for your time and effoet to reply.
The confirmation that i was seaking. Ill take your advice and run with it.
This platform really isnt for me because im really not understanding the half baked assumputions from all the other replies.
Again thank you very much brother and take care.
I don’t have a problem with you taking AAS being a little too fat, especially if you are looking to improve your strength.
I know very little about PCT. I would get off cycle (Saturday last injection followed by last oral the next Friday) and start Monday with HCG EOD for 20 days. Then wait about 4 weeks and start another cycle. I liked to be “on cycle” more weeks of the year than “off cycle.”
Legend! Thank you very much for valuable advice.
Greatly appreciated