[quote]Damici wrote:
I’m not sure how I feel about that, pro or con.
By that reasoning, consider this example:
The so-called “normal” range for an adult man’s T-levels is a wide range, I believe between 300 and 1,000 (ng per . . . whatever units). So a reading of 310 is considered just as “normal” as a reading of 999. Now suppose you have a typical pro fighter in his 20’s or 30’s whose natural T-levels just happen to be in the low 300’s. But he’d prefer they be higher, as in, closer to 1,000. So he takes supplemental testosterone to get his levels up into the high 900’s. That’s still within the “normal” range for an adult male.
Would that be cheating? Should that be allowed . . . ?
Or should everyone be forced to fight with the natural abilities that they are individually given, be it innate skill, vision, reflexes, limb length, height, strength, etc., including T-levels . . .?
InTheZone wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
I know some people have leveled the accusation at Randy that he uses steroids and is allowed, because it is presrcibed HRT. If you disclose drugs you are taking, and show a prescription, I believe they will allow you to take them. Also, since that is privat medical information, I don’t know if they can disclose a fighters medical history. I’m not accusing Randy or anything, but wonder if this possibility would exist for an older fighter to get a good doc who lets him take his T-levels way up to the high point of human levels.
Right, good point bro.
I don’t see how that would be necessarily cheating. It would just put his levels at within normal range, probably still a little under the high, as most only get you close to the highest level with a scrip, and too high would risk his failing the test.
I don't have a problem with that, only if it is obviously being raised to supraphysiological levels which then would indeed put competitors at an unfair disadvantage in the fight.
ToneBone
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Whoops, let me try again.
Ok, yeah it’s nanograms per decilitre. I would say that a typical fighter in his 20’s or even 30’s, would have a high likelihood of possesing higher end “normal” levels, just by being physically active and healthy like these guys are. This would be the norm. IF, he was young, and did have low end test levels, I seriously doubt he would have made it in the game at this level. But let’s suppose he has. The guy obviously has some form of physiological “problem” that is contributing to his levels being that low for his age.(If we’re talking 300ng/dl), I wouldn’t have a problem with the guy getting a low dose scrip for test to allow him higher, yet still within normal levels of this important hormone.
This phenomenon is most likely only happening in guys that are around Randy’s age for the most part. Again, being within the normal range of testosterone isn’t going to give anyone “superhuman” advantages over other guys who naturally have about the same level because of their younger age. It just won’t produce the kind of muscle gains that would constitute an obvious “cheat” in reality.
What we’re really talking about here is guys like Franca, Sherk, Bonnar, who are still pretty much in their prime and naturally producing decent and higher end levels of testosterone, who are trying to slip in some gear to get their test at supraphysiological levels,(we’re talking WAY OVER normal), which WILL give them definite advantages over competitors during training relating to strength, and recovery/recuperation from any injuries they might have sustained before a fight.
Lastly to reiterate,
Getting a scrip for test replacement for an older guy like Randy who is the epitome of a decent honest and enduring fighter, WOULD indeed be allowing him to come in and fight with his NATURAL abilities. It would amount to allowing him to fight with no more advantage than he had when he started in his younger years.
Take it like you will, this is just my opinion.
ToneBone