[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
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Common theme here?[/quote]
Thanx!
This shows the whole “they’re all Caucasian” argument Simon was using has just been blown to bits…prejudice isn’t always against a person of a different color. [/quote]
That wasn’t his argument. His argument was the same I put forth…that yes there is CULTURAL HATRED and has been since the beginning of time…but if you are to ask which is harder to overcome over time due to ignorance and generational effects, the kind based only on what people SEE with no further knowledge about a person will win every time.
If you have to ask before you know if you can hate someone…or if it is based on something like pure ‘culture’, it will end much quicker once society shifts and thus has less of an overall effect on a full race.
His point was NOT that white people don’t hate each other for dumb reasons through history. However, why act like cultural hatred and racism are one in the same?[/quote]
Actually that wasn’t my point X. You’ve said a whole lot of stuff yourself there and attributed it to me.
The holocaust is a good example of the flaws in your argument. Jews were made to wear stars of David to distinguish them. The Gestapo would go into areas where Jews predomimately lived take all the obvious/known Jews, then investigate to find out who was a Jew and who wasn’t.
There was a pathological element to the Jewish persecution and when you look at the history of Jews in Europe and the Middle East there has been continual pogroms against Jews for millenia. At regular intervals throughout history towns would wip themselves into a frenzy and go and massace Jews. The crowds were incited with conspiracy theories and blood libels. It’s was and is really sick.
My point is it doesn’t matter whether you are immediately distinguishable by your appearance to the persecuters. Dehumanisation, atrocities and genocide can occur to any group of people. Now obviously anyone with dark skin is going to be immediately recognised by persecuters and then can be targeted by them. But the same thing can happen to someone who looks Jewish, wears orthodox garb or a Yarmulke. And black/hispanic/whatever racists can immediately recognise us good ole boys too.
On the holocaust: In the 1930’s and 40’s one of the most progressive societies in the world succumbed to a lunatic demagogue and then used state directed industrial means to attempt to exterminate an entire ethnic/religious group. They nearly succeeded. It was unprecedented for this reason. And what worries me is that we’re seeing the exact same thing today coming from the Middle East. Conspiracy theories, blood libels, murderous attacks, genocidal propaganda. It’s obviously the biggest ‘racism’ problem confronting the world today.