Screw Racism

Professor_X · July 11, 2011, 11:52am

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:
The irony in this thread is so thick that you can cut it with a knife. [/quote]

O’rly??

[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Pro Tip: if you’re going to rail against racism, be sure not to make sweeping generalizations about things that “white people do all the time” that piss you off. Hypocrisy looks pretty bad with any skin tone.[/quote]

I don’t know whom you addressing here but since Prof X and I seem to be the only blacks participating in this thread, me posting more than him, I’d assume it is of me you’re talking about.

Now I don’t know, man, maybe I don’t express myself well in my posts… meh, sorry I speak 7 languages, English not being my first, but fuck that, maybe you lack some reading comprehension (sorry prof, I had to take it from you, ehehe).

Where in hell did I make any sweeping generalizations about white people?
The replies to Overstand and Edevus were based on what is happening in this thread or on the internet. I used ‘some’ and used ‘ignorant’. I never said ‘whites do this all the time’ or ‘all white are doing this and that’.
And on the last line to Overstand, maybe, yeah, I should have written, ‘I’ll leave the jokes to the ignorant white folks on here’.

Actually, FUCK THAT! I don’t have to justify myself to you. WHO the fuck are you again?

Funny that you ignore all the sweeping generalisation about blacks on this thread but one poster with a darker skin makes an observation you see it as sweeping generalization. If you really wanted to show how ‘fair’ you are, you should have posted a similar comment to the one above in the earlier pages when racial stuff on blacks were posted.

Very soon some will accuse me of using the race card. Rofl!!

Please, take your head out of your ass and stop licking the shit stuck there. Oops, sorry, hole too tight. And Of course you’ll only see what you wanna see.

Now Carry on.

But I’m done with you.
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You have to admit they are very blatantly off about what “funny” is if only one side of the room is laughing.

Professor_X · July 11, 2011, 12:07pm

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
They’re all caucasian.[/quote]

Go look up ‘caucasian’ in wikipedia and have a little think about it. It doesn’t matter what you want to call people anyway. It doesn’t alter the facts of what happened. As I’ve said it was more complicated than race and involved religion and culture as these things always do.[/quote]

Unfortunately, in this country, it IS all about race…and not “religion and culture”. Trust me, no one cares what my “culture” is if they are racist today. They don’t care if I am Christian or Buddhist. If someone has to do more than look at you to be able to know how they hate you, then it is not the same at all.

That means his point still stands.

SexMachine · July 11, 2011, 12:50pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
They’re all caucasian.[/quote]

Go look up ‘caucasian’ in wikipedia and have a little think about it. It doesn’t matter what you want to call people anyway. It doesn’t alter the facts of what happened. As I’ve said it was more complicated than race and involved religion and culture as these things always do.[/quote]

Unfortunately, in this country, it IS all about race…and not “religion and culture”. Trust me, no one cares what my “culture” is if they are racist today. They don’t care if I am Christian or Buddhist. If someone has to do more than look at you to be able to know how they hate you, then it is not the same at all.

That means his point still stands.[/quote]

Obviously there are huge differences between the British atrocities in Ireland and slavery/segregation in America. However his point was basically that because Celts and British look similar it’s not ‘racism’. Whatever you want to call it, it was fucked up.

porkpie · July 11, 2011, 2:28pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I have mixed feelings about feeling sorry for something like this. In one hand, she didn’t kill anyone. And even if someone in her ascendancy took away children from the natives, she still didn’t do it herself. It’s good that she learns what happened, but from a neutral point of view if possible and without any kind of emotional blackmailing.

When South Americans come to Spanish newspapers to whine at the comments section about Spanish colonialism, I can just feel sorry because they sound stupid. They complain about something that started 500 years ago, and I can not feel sorry for something that “we” did. I didn’t choose or support it and it happened way too long ago.

Then, in the other hand, now living in a former Soviet republic, I kinda feel bad when Russians don’t show respect to Estonian independence day, mourning days, etc. Although the time lapse is much different, since this was not so much ago. The beginning of deportations started 70 years ago and many people I know got their grandparents deported to Siberia.

You also have Russians saying that there was no occupation at all, etc. but that’s product of brainwashing education.

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My point was much more in relation with the folks that have no idea of the shit that went through between races. OP is one of the examples as well.

The last line of my post was aimed at SM who wondered -sarcastically - in one of his posts, if the Australian ‘sorry day’ is working or not.

And I don’t care whether a white person feels guilt or not about what other white people did centuries, and even decades ago. I’m not asking every single white person I live, work, train or fuck with to apologise to me for the shit his/her ancestors did to my race. They owe me nothing.

The only thing that irks me is the ignorance or lack of sensibility from some. And this thread proves it. Most of the posts with racist undertone or mainly racist posted in this place so far had been by white peeps. And that says it all.

But as I always say, ‘that’s life, deal with it.’

Fuck racism.
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This:

is very true and it has been that way since I first logged on. The truly hateful shit seems to usually only come from one direction on this forum…of course, always in the guise of “just having fun”. Not too many will speak out against it either.

They usually come after me for noticing it.[/quote]

Sorry X, could you clarify which direction is it coming from?
I don’t want this statement to be ambiguous, which direction is this truly hateful shit coming from?

Professor_X · July 11, 2011, 2:37pm

[quote]porkpie wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I have mixed feelings about feeling sorry for something like this. In one hand, she didn’t kill anyone. And even if someone in her ascendancy took away children from the natives, she still didn’t do it herself. It’s good that she learns what happened, but from a neutral point of view if possible and without any kind of emotional blackmailing.

When South Americans come to Spanish newspapers to whine at the comments section about Spanish colonialism, I can just feel sorry because they sound stupid. They complain about something that started 500 years ago, and I can not feel sorry for something that “we” did. I didn’t choose or support it and it happened way too long ago.

Then, in the other hand, now living in a former Soviet republic, I kinda feel bad when Russians don’t show respect to Estonian independence day, mourning days, etc. Although the time lapse is much different, since this was not so much ago. The beginning of deportations started 70 years ago and many people I know got their grandparents deported to Siberia.

You also have Russians saying that there was no occupation at all, etc. but that’s product of brainwashing education.

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My point was much more in relation with the folks that have no idea of the shit that went through between races. OP is one of the examples as well.

The last line of my post was aimed at SM who wondered -sarcastically - in one of his posts, if the Australian ‘sorry day’ is working or not.

And I don’t care whether a white person feels guilt or not about what other white people did centuries, and even decades ago. I’m not asking every single white person I live, work, train or fuck with to apologise to me for the shit his/her ancestors did to my race. They owe me nothing.

The only thing that irks me is the ignorance or lack of sensibility from some. And this thread proves it. Most of the posts with racist undertone or mainly racist posted in this place so far had been by white peeps. And that says it all.

But as I always say, ‘that’s life, deal with it.’

Fuck racism.
[/quote]

This:

is very true and it has been that way since I first logged on. The truly hateful shit seems to usually only come from one direction on this forum…of course, always in the guise of “just having fun”. Not too many will speak out against it either.

They usually come after me for noticing it.[/quote]

Sorry X, could you clarify which direction is it coming from?
I don’t want this statement to be ambiguous, which direction is this truly hateful shit coming from?
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No, first, clarify something for me.

When someone writes something like:

[quote]jre67t wrote:
Well Raj, does the black community in Canada like to play the race card when it benefits them. As it happens here in America, let me say not the majority of the blacks do it but like always its the few that spoil it for all. [/quote]

why do you stay quiet?

Answer that first.

Why be so selective as to ignore all of that and only focus on me?

How about this, any further comments about me will be ignored. Stay on topic. Why ignore racist remarks from others like you have just now?

system · July 11, 2011, 2:49pm

[quote]Nards wrote:
I’m racist against people with numbers in their user name!

Get a real name, made-up is fine, but I mean your screen name should not look like the first half on your e-mail address![/quote]
Hey!!! What I ever do to you? Jerk

DarkNinjaa · July 11, 2011, 4:15pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

No, first, clarify something for me.

When someone writes something like:

[quote]jre67t wrote:
Well Raj, does the black community in Canada like to play the race card when it benefits them. As it happens here in America, let me say not the majority of the blacks do it but like always its the few that spoil it for all. [/quote]

why do you stay quiet?

Answer that first.

Why be so selective as to ignore all of that and only focus on me?

How about this, any further comments about me will be ignored. Stay on topic. Why ignore racist remarks from others like you have just now?[/quote]

Or what about this?

[quote]jre67t wrote:
how to starve a Mexican family? [/quote]

I just chuckle when some people ignore this kinda shit - oh, of course, I forgot, it’s funny!!!- and jump on me for making some observation.

Stronghold · July 11, 2011, 4:56pm

You really are pathetic.

Here, in case you missed it:

If you have a problem with ignorance, then by all means, rail against ignorance! However, from your posts, it’s rather clear that you really only have a problem with white people who are ignorant and…wait for it…

[quote]
Thirdly I don’t give a shit about what black people do to irk you. It’s your fucking problem. Fucking DEAL with it.[/quote]

So, you’re holding white people to a higher standard of behavior than black people and you only “give a shit” about ignorance if it’s coming from a white person, making you…wait for it…a racist.

“White people” is a broad classifier, meaning that when you use that term, you are referring to white people in general. When you refer to what “white people” do, you are…wait for it…making generalizations. Like when you said:

[quote]
And what’s funny I always hear this kinda shit from the white people [/quote]

You expect us to concede to you that that’s not racially-based thinking, however, if I were to state that “I work a second job bouncing at a bar and 100% of the bums and panhandlers that I have to run off are black”, it would be a racially-loaded statement.

I’m making well reasoned arguments and specifically quoting you when I refer to things you’ve said. Your response is that I should go lick my own ass. If you want to have an intelligent discussion about race, that’s one thing, but you’re not even giving it the old college try. You’re engaging in behavior that is just as negative as the white (presumably, since you don’t actually know that those were white people posting those jokes, your racially centered thought processes just led you to that conclusion) folks making racial jokes. I’m sure there are better forums for hatin’ on whitey than this one, perhaps you should take your incoherent rambling there.

Professor_X · July 11, 2011, 5:16pm

I don’t see any black people ranting and raving for pages about how white people are destroying social standards…like the discussion of affirmative action or acting like blacks are why there is still racism…both issues no one seems to care about.

Stronghold · July 11, 2011, 5:20pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t see any black people ranting and raving for pages about how white people are destroying social standards…like the discussion of affirmative action or acting like blacks are why there is still racism…both issues no one seems to care about.[/quote]

Do you believe that white people are the reason racism still exists?

Hint: that’s racist and shows a total lack of understanding of what racism is and why it exists in the first place.

farmerson12 · July 11, 2011, 5:35pm

Seriously

anonym · July 11, 2011, 5:43pm

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Seriously[/quote]

Nawww…

Professor_X · July 11, 2011, 6:13pm

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t see any black people ranting and raving for pages about how white people are destroying social standards…like the discussion of affirmative action or acting like blacks are why there is still racism…both issues no one seems to care about.[/quote]

Do you believe that white people are the reason racism still exists?

Hint: that’s racist and shows a total lack of understanding of what racism is and why it exists in the first place.[/quote]

No, I believe Dark Ninjaa made the exact same observation about posts on this forum only to have several guys attack her for it while completely ignoring the true bile being spewed by others.

That makes no logical sense if you really care about true racism. You would have responded to all issues involved if you did.

The truth is, you don’t care and probably only posted because you saw me post.

Many of you are a joke here…and I know I’m not the only one who sees it any longer.

waylanderxx · July 11, 2011, 6:34pm

Prof X wants to bang Dark Ninja, internet black knight.

Grneyes · July 11, 2011, 6:50pm

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
They’re all caucasian.[/quote]

Go look up ‘caucasian’ in wikipedia and have a little think about it. It doesn’t matter what you want to call people anyway. It doesn’t alter the facts of what happened. As I’ve said it was more complicated than race and involved religion and culture as these things always do.[/quote]

Unfortunately, in this country, it IS all about race…and not “religion and culture”. Trust me, no one cares what my “culture” is if they are racist today. They don’t care if I am Christian or Buddhist. If someone has to do more than look at you to be able to know how they hate you, then it is not the same at all.

That means his point still stands.[/quote]

Obviously there are huge differences between the British atrocities in Ireland and slavery/segregation in America. However his point was basically that because Celts and British look similar it’s not ‘racism’. Whatever you want to call it, it was fucked up.[/quote]

The Irish were very much considered an “inferior race” against the English. They were barely considered human and were often depicted with monkey like features. Ring any bells?

Simon_Adebisi · July 11, 2011, 7:06pm

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
They’re all caucasian.[/quote]

Go look up ‘caucasian’ in wikipedia and have a little think about it. It doesn’t matter what you want to call people anyway. It doesn’t alter the facts of what happened. As I’ve said it was more complicated than race and involved religion and culture as these things always do.[/quote]

Unfortunately, in this country, it IS all about race…and not “religion and culture”. Trust me, no one cares what my “culture” is if they are racist today. They don’t care if I am Christian or Buddhist. If someone has to do more than look at you to be able to know how they hate you, then it is not the same at all.

That means his point still stands.[/quote]

Obviously there are huge differences between the British atrocities in Ireland and slavery/segregation in America. However his point was basically that because Celts and British look similar it’s not ‘racism’. Whatever you want to call it, it was fucked up.[/quote]

No, my point was that they are the same fucking race.

Grneyes · July 11, 2011, 7:10pm

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
They’re all caucasian.[/quote]

Go look up ‘caucasian’ in wikipedia and have a little think about it. It doesn’t matter what you want to call people anyway. It doesn’t alter the facts of what happened. As I’ve said it was more complicated than race and involved religion and culture as these things always do.[/quote]

Unfortunately, in this country, it IS all about race…and not “religion and culture”. Trust me, no one cares what my “culture” is if they are racist today. They don’t care if I am Christian or Buddhist. If someone has to do more than look at you to be able to know how they hate you, then it is not the same at all.

That means his point still stands.[/quote]

Obviously there are huge differences between the British atrocities in Ireland and slavery/segregation in America. However his point was basically that because Celts and British look similar it’s not ‘racism’. Whatever you want to call it, it was fucked up.[/quote]

No, my point was that they are the same fucking race.
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And we’re saying they didn’t have the advanced technology of genetics to tell them that. Back then every country was a “race”. You had the Irish race and the French race and the German race and the best of all, the English race. Doesn’t matter they were all the same “color”, they were considered different and inferior to your own “race”.

Professor_X · July 11, 2011, 7:17pm

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
They’re all caucasian.[/quote]

Go look up ‘caucasian’ in wikipedia and have a little think about it. It doesn’t matter what you want to call people anyway. It doesn’t alter the facts of what happened. As I’ve said it was more complicated than race and involved religion and culture as these things always do.[/quote]

Unfortunately, in this country, it IS all about race…and not “religion and culture”. Trust me, no one cares what my “culture” is if they are racist today. They don’t care if I am Christian or Buddhist. If someone has to do more than look at you to be able to know how they hate you, then it is not the same at all.

That means his point still stands.[/quote]

Obviously there are huge differences between the British atrocities in Ireland and slavery/segregation in America. However his point was basically that because Celts and British look similar it’s not ‘racism’. Whatever you want to call it, it was fucked up.[/quote]

The Irish were very much considered an “inferior race” against the English. They were barely considered human and were often depicted with monkey like features. Ring any bells? [/quote]

Yes, and history itself is filled with hatred of brothers against brothers even.

However, even if 500 years ago they hated women with eye-liner, all it took was to not wear eyeliner to not be noticed. You are describing more “cultural racism” than true RACISM based on what actual race someone is.

The difference between the two is, there is no escape from true RACISM as you wear it all day long and can not hide it in any way, shape or form…unlike being able to get a hair cut, change how you speak or any number of things both Germans and Jews did after WWII.

When someone speaks this crap about specific races, they don’t care about CULTURE. They don’t care what I do for a living or exactly how educated I am. All they see is skin color.

People who are all the same race but have the usual hatred thrown at them that seems to be basic human nature is not the same. It has much less of a social effect long term meaning once the hatred moves out of social relevance, it is soon forgotten. (much like how most are not even aware of Irish racism as it quickly ended and did not have lasting effects for generations like what prompted the Civil Rights movement)

Racism based on skin color has lasting effects in generational society…many of which are what prompted the many studies conducted by the Clinton Admin that proved racism was still holding entire races back so much many couldn’t even find an apartment to rent in the 90’s outside of mostly black or hispanic neighborhoods…which is what instigated Affirmative Action in the first place.

Now, I will likely bow out here because I have learned no real debate can take place as long as people will ignore blatant comments from others but all gang up on whatever few they can.

Professor_X · July 11, 2011, 7:19pm

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
They’re all caucasian.[/quote]

Go look up ‘caucasian’ in wikipedia and have a little think about it. It doesn’t matter what you want to call people anyway. It doesn’t alter the facts of what happened. As I’ve said it was more complicated than race and involved religion and culture as these things always do.[/quote]

Unfortunately, in this country, it IS all about race…and not “religion and culture”. Trust me, no one cares what my “culture” is if they are racist today. They don’t care if I am Christian or Buddhist. If someone has to do more than look at you to be able to know how they hate you, then it is not the same at all.

That means his point still stands.[/quote]

Obviously there are huge differences between the British atrocities in Ireland and slavery/segregation in America. However his point was basically that because Celts and British look similar it’s not ‘racism’. Whatever you want to call it, it was fucked up.[/quote]

No, my point was that they are the same fucking race.
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And we’re saying they didn’t have the advanced technology of genetics to tell them that. Back then every country was a “race”. You had the Irish race and the French race and the German race and the best of all, the English race. Doesn’t matter they were all the same “color”, they were considered different and inferior to your own “race”. [/quote]

You’re right, it was all out war…but once again, once the fighting ended, there was no 300 years of people acting exactly the same because the “hated ones” are less easy to be identified when everyone is the same color.

get it?

That is the difference bewteen CULTURAL HATRED and true RACISM.

orion · July 11, 2011, 7:29pm