As an aside, the fact that police officers maintain employment after multiple suspensions and disciplinary actions is sometimes surprising. I understand training and development but I also think it’s funny how much they can get away with compared to many if not most other career paths, especially considering exhibited implicit trust with power.
The last officer was in a yellow rain jacket and did not appear to Scheffler to be police. Scheffler was driving at a “crawl” on video yet police claim he accelerated.
None of us know for sure what happened.
Respectfully… you really don’t understand how and why these things work the way they do. I had multiple suspensions… for seat belt violations.
Police work is like nothing anyone can describe to you unless you do it yourself.
Far too often people think police get away with anything and everything simply because they didn’t get the outcome or results they wanted from some alleged police misconduct.
medical error kills over 200,000 people a year… where’s the outcry ? Strange priorities we have
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This cop once wrote 108 traffic tickets in 4 hours! And still had time to arrest another guy for DUI.
Scottie picked the wrong guy to mess with. Don’t drive outside the lines when he’s around!
A reasonable level of accountability, sure. Your smug condescending attitude towards police indicates that’s beyond your scope.
I hadn’t written a ticket in a decade… prolific bastard that one
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I appreciate that but the officer in question has been suspended for doing donuts in parking lots and illegal pursuit of vehicles among other things. He unfortunately has a pattern of abusing power and while I sincerely do appreciate what police forces by and large offer communities, an officer with a history of issues like the one in the news is a recurring problem and likely would be fired from any other job.
I agree this is a problematic issue as well.
Bahaha… what an asshole. I did a lot of bone head shit but NEVER abused my authority or a person. 15 years… 4 IA complaints and none were sustained.
I’ve said multiple times I appreciate the police overall. I’m not sure how saying an officer putting himself in danger, apparently erroneously, and then pressing charges for his own bullshit is being smug.
Maybe if being a police officer didn’t suck, more people would want to be a police officer and we could more easily get rid of the bad ones. I know several young guys who got out of law enforcement because of George Floyd and similar events. Obviously, it’s a balancing act. You need to be strict enough to get rid of bad cops, but not so strict and punitive that you drive out everyone.
I don’t know the details of the Scheffler incident, but I think there needs to be extreme deference to cops. Even if the cops are wrong, I don’t think there is a reason to resist unless significant personal injury will result from compliance. Everything else can be sorted out in court.
Of course, it may also be the case that the instructions given were so confusing that a reasonable person could not have complied. But my gut reaction is that this wasn’t the case and I would need evidence to the contrary to change my mind.
For sure. The bad ones you acknowledged are who I’m discussing. Do you disagree that “bad” police officers are a problem?
I wouldn’t say they’re all being driven out. I see police officers every day, usually being very helpful to society at that.
I think resisting in the moment is probably as stupid as trying to stop a car with your body and from a survival perspective agree that complying is probably your best bet. Not because I see extreme deference owed, however. Especially not in Scottie’s case. Pulling up on a hot situation sure. But this where is where I would insert “reasonable” again.
This is the developing storyline. And so we don’t lose the bouncing ball even if the original scenario put out by the police is correct, as I’ve stated, Scottie should be ticketed/prosecuted for failing to comply. I would not defer extremely to the assault charge, however. But this has been discussed many times above.
Did you read my entire post?
“Wrongs” is not a legal term.
These seemed to be the major areas that we had agreed could have contributed to the arrest.
And that makes it absolute truth?
For 41 years I worked at the electrical production utility as Instrument and Controls technician and supervisor. We would have the pleasure of the presence of the media to cover an event. Those reporters did not have a clue of how a power plant works. They usually talked to a PR person from downtown. That PR person had no power plant experience. Not a single article about our plant was remotely close to accurate.
I gave a general answer. I wasn’t there so, I don’t know exactly what happened. My answer was how I would handle conflicting directives from different police officials.
Not that statement… which is very reasonable. But it’s clear you have a bias towards police and honestly, I can understand some of it. I’d like to see some serious reforms starting within departments BUT at some point the public has to learn to behave, as well.
Legitimately “bad” cops… 1000%. But who’s the ultimate arbiter of that distinction?
I would expect an eyewitness to be more credible than someone not present. No eyewitness corroborated any of your points.
I will admit I commented based upon th OPs account of the situation. I saw the espn article but it seems biased toward the golfer.
The point I was trying to make is that you follow what a police officer is telling you to do. I’m not sure how you could do that and then hit and/or drag the cop.
I will refrain from anymore comments on this post.
Which differs from other accounts.
I was frustrated in that the original post contained conflicting information from what I had read.
After we’ve been flat out lied to by the media…“Hands up, Don’t Shoot,” … on plenty of occasions, it’s always wise to let the truth unfold as it will.
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I pursued a couple article but none of them had very solid info. Most of them talked more about his golf game than the incident.
Would be nice to see the police report. Just seems like a very odd situation.