It’s happened to me before
Not quite as bad as a pulmonary oil microembolism (which I’ve also experienced)
Be careful aswell haha I’ve had this numerous times but not so bad that its stopped me breathing. Just chest tightness and a metallic taste in my mouth, plus a cough for a few minutes (not Tren cough).
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I couldn’t breathe for about a minute, fell to the floor convinced “this is it… I’m going to die”, this was with scripted test E
I always get this bs pushed to me “you’ll be suprised how strong the will to live is when you think you’re seriously about to die”… not for me lol, I just lay on the floor waiting
You see pulmonary oil microembolism has been heavily associated with large volumes of testosterone undecanoate, very little literature exists stating it to be a side effect regarding small volumes of test E… but I suppose it can happen. Was caught very off guard (this was a while ago)
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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/rcm.3861
“In addition, several reduced metabolites were detected in the post‐administration urines, namely 17β‐hydroxyandrosta‐1,4‐dien‐3‐one (boldenone),”
Am I interpreting this wrong?
You get forwards and backwards pathways regarding hormonal metabolism. Like androstenedione can be convert to/from test continuously.
The same may be applicable regarding this compound. It’s fairly clear in the literature you’ve linked that they’re looking for ways to detect this on doping tests.
I’ll soon link literature proving it is in fact a metabolite of boldenone
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@Singhbuilder, Hey Brother, old subject but… I know you love anavar and in past posts, you mention “high” doses. Can you expand on your daily intake, protocol, and results you mentioned?
I went up to 90mg brother spaced out but BP was too high. 75mg I settled on. The results were INSANE in terms of the unique look it gave. Veins everywhere and grainy. Dry. Dont use if looking for mass.
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Thank you Sir. I’m planning an order and trying to decide which strength to order. They are capsule and splitting isnt really an option. I get a better price with 50 mg caps but that leaves little flexibility.
How long did you run for, or are you still on?
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This was the kind of thick veins it gave me. Ive not been on it for over a year now. I think I was on it for around 6 weeks with 120mg Test Prop. @studhammer
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Should be noted this is if you’re lean
No amount of AAS will make a fat physique shredded and vascular instantaneously
You mean they don’t do all the work? Damn back to the drawing board. My broscience let me down.
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That’s correct, I was leaner then. Although for me, vascularity is largely genetic, I have some veins at all times.
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True, but anavar is noted for its effect on abdominal fat.
Yup, and the effect appears to be long lasting (as in, sustains itself post withdrawal of the drug), this relates to elderly men given 20mg daily for a while though.
The reduction in abdominal fat mass if I recall was about 1kg (I’ll post the study when I get home, at airport)… so it works better than say, test… but it’s not a magic pill
Via pro lipolysis inducing effects (activation of hepatic ketogenesis, very strong AR binding, decreased TBG etc)
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Shit, I’ll that every day
So I got my bloods back. There are a few things that do look alarming.
Testosterone - 10,720 ng/dl, (372 nmol/l)
Oestradiol - 1180 pmol/l (41-159)
Free Test - 17.5 nmol/l (0.2 - 0.62)
Free androgen index - 7,586 (24-104)
Prolactin - 389 (86 - 324)
SHBG - 4.93 nmol/L (18.3 - 54.1) LOW
Creatine Kinase - 1,498 (39 - 308) HIGH
LDL - 3.6 (<3) HIGH
HDL - 0.42 (>1.1) LOW
ALP, ALT, GGT in range
EGFR normal.
Hematocrit normal.
RBC’s and platelets slightly elevated.
So looking at these results, the things that jump out are the OESTRADIOL, SHBG and CREATINE KINASE.
I do know that Tren can gave false E2 readings which could be the reason for such high oestrogen. I do not have any symptoms of high E2.
My SHBG seems very low, any ideas why?
Creatine kinase is extremely high, however kidney health seems ok. @unreal24278 is this because of my pec tear which happened 3 weeks ago or could it be rhabdomyolsis?
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Yes… tren anecdotally crushes SHBG into oblivion, very strong androgen… as do many DHT derived orals (particularly winny/var and many AAS)
High creatine could be due to the pec year (will increase after skeletal muscle injury) however I’m not a medical professional… if you had rhabdomyolsis you’d know… do you have aching/twitching muscles, urine the colour of motor oil, generalised weakness/fatigue etc
Regardless I should note you’re not healthy at the moment, you’re on a lot of gear and you should know the amount of damage you’re inducing systemically is immense, with elevated rbc/platelets, androgen concentrations THAT high and a shitty lipid profile (independently of bad lipid profiles AAS induce lipid oxidation)… you’re looking at taking quite a few years off you’re life. I assume you intend to calm down with the use after this comp. I’d suggest getting an echocardiogram, the results might be quite sobering (or not… but probably). However you are aware of the risks, thus this is you’re choice to make, I won’t tell you what to do, but I’ll reccomend cardiac evaluation for sure…
The retardedly high oestradiol test is due to tren once again. Depending on the assay used tren can give a false positive for sky high E2
Prolactin is also elevated (as is to be expected when on a lot of gear, esp 19-Nors)
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I do have a twitching eye which doesnt seem to be going, have a few cramps here and there. Weakness not so much but fatigue and malaise yes. My urine is dark coloured but that colour disappears after drinking enough water.
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Nah that’s not rhabdo. My friend has actually gotten it twice (poor bastard), and he ended up in the hospital both times after basically collapsing in the gym. It’s an acute condition. You might be cruising for a bruising tho if you’re experiencing this stuff.
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