[quote]jsbrook wrote:
For the obvious reasons…he’s the “fiance.” Not just the teenage out-of-wedlock father. They want to try and get that across for political reasons.
Probably so. Still not right. You can’t ask the media to respect your family’s privacy and then bring your unmarried teenage couple into the middle of a political firestorm.
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I agree,its not right…this continues the issue of “judgement” from McCain camp.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
With more and more stuff being disclosed, my prediction is that Palin will bow out. She’s got her hands full.[/quote]
Very unlikely. At age 42 she took out a sitting governor of her own party. I think people under estimate how difficult that is to pull off. If you fail - you are done forever.
I think it reveals how gritty this lady really is underneath. She is tough while retaining the qualities of a true lady. Tough to do and very appealing to people.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
With more and more stuff being disclosed, my prediction is that Palin will bow out. She’s got her hands full.[/quote]
What has her hands so full that she should drop out?
Yet another liberal drinking the dailykos koolaid.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
But…you actually have to know something about politics to figure this out and you have proven by your many posts that you don’t know much in that area. I wonder sometimes why you even bother to try…But it’s still a free country Obama has not been elected yet.[/quote]
And tell me what I’m “trying” to do other than stating the fact that this will continue the OBVIOUS agenda of McCain camps judgment. Whether I agree or not,its a fact…comprehend??
Also,you post more than I do…maybe that’s why you come of as a piece of shit…you talk too much. Right,this is still a free country…so feel free to shut the fuck up. 
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
For the obvious reasons…he’s the “fiance.” Not just the teenage out-of-wedlock father. They want to try and get that across for political reasons.
Probably so. Still not right. You can’t ask the media to respect your family’s privacy and then bring your unmarried teenage couple into the middle of a political firestorm.
I agree,its not right…this continues the issue of “judgement” from McCain camp.
McCains judgement is exactly right.
First of all the liberal main stream media would not have left the kid alone anyway. They would never give her the same consideration that they gave Clinton or Gore’s children. So, since the field is not level to begin with you have to be clever enough to know how to handle the situation. I think both John McCain and VP candidate Palin are doing the right thing by bringing her front and center. Then when the liberal media continues to pick there will be a backlash by the general public.
But…you actually have to know something about politics to figure this out and you have proven by your many posts that you don’t know much in that area. I wonder sometimes why you even bother to try…But it’s still a free country Obama has not been elected yet.[/quote]
Obviously, she’ll get attention wherever she is. A lot less in bumblefuck Alaska than if she comes to the convention. There’s no way to avoid unfair publicity for the couple. Sarah knew it would exist when she accepted the VP nomination.
What’s the story here? Daughter gets pregnant, contrary to her upbringing. Since it’s a done deal, mom and daughter (and apparently the father) move foward to make sure this child will be loved and cared for. So, daughter made a mistake, family looks to be trying to do what’s best for the upcoming addition to their family, end of story.
Edit: Are people looking for her to disown her daughter, or what?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Edit: Are people looking for her to disown her daughter, or what?[/quote]
Nah. Just a schadenfreude case where the dirty laundry of a staunch anti-abortion and abstinence-only conservative public figure happens to be most ironic.
The people making a fuss about this pregnancy are more likely to be sympathetic to the girl than Palin’s camp. They don’t want anyone to disown her. Matter of fact, it’s about empowering the girl and preparing her to make choices. On the other hand, premarital sex and unwanted pregnancies are more likely to be issues for the right-wing crowd.
I really can’t make it any clearer.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Edit: Are people looking for her to disown her daughter, or what?
Nah. Just a schadenfreude case where the dirty laundry of a staunch anti-abortion and abstinence-only conservative public figure happens to be most ironic.
The people making a fuss about this pregnancy are more likely to be sympathetic to the girl than Palin’s camp. They don’t want anyone to disown her.
Matter of fact, it’s about empowering the girl and preparing her to make choices. On the other hand, premarital sex and unwanted pregnancies are more likely to be issues for the right-wing crowd.
I really can’t make it any clearer.[/quote]
Just shut the fuck up. You haven’t got a fucking clue what you are even talking about.
Seriously, go rape another teenaged girl if you need to feel superior.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Sarah should shield Bristol and kid from publicity to the greatest extent possible. If their private lives are supposed to be out of bounds, why the hell is she bringing him to the convention and putting him on display?
Agree.[/quote]
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If the whole thing is a private family matter and it would be bad to use it against them, it’s a bit hypocritical to make use of it. Families are to be shielded, not paraded. That goes for both sides obviously.
Makkun
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
This is what you stated:
I agree,its not right…this continues the issue of “judgement” from McCain camp.
It DOES NOT continue the issue of judgement it will put it to rest in my opinion. And it is your opinion not a “fact” as you so foolishly stated, that McCain is exercising poor judgement.
At this stage of your life you should not need anyone to explain the difference between a fact and an opinion. Honestly, you are one of the more ignorant liberals on this board. I try to stay away from posting back and forth with gutter trash like you, but sometimes it can’t be helped.
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You’re such a dumb ass. If you wasn’t so wrapped up in being an asshole,you’d understand that I was only making the point that PEOPLE/MEDIA WILL CONTINUE TO USE THIS AS FUEL FOR THEIR ARGUMENTS ABOUT MCCAIN’S JUDGEMENT. Now tell me I’m wrong.
So point out to me where I MYSELF stated that McCain is exercising poor judgement. At this stage in your life…you should die.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Edit: Are people looking for her to disown her daughter, or what?
Nah. Just a schadenfreude case where the dirty laundry of a staunch anti-abortion and abstinence-only conservative public figure happens to be most ironic.
The people making a fuss about this pregnancy are more likely to be sympathetic to the girl than Palin’s camp. They don’t want anyone to disown her. Matter of fact, it’s about empowering the girl and preparing her to make choices.
On the other hand, premarital sex and unwanted pregnancies are more likely to be issues for the right-wing crowd.
I really can’t make it any clearer.[/quote]
I’m sorry, what’s ironic? That a child may make choices contrary to her upbringing? Some of you think this is news to conservatives? Seriously? I mean, I’m sure every drug user, liar, murderer, thief, had to be actually raised to do such things.
Now, if Palin marched her daughter down to an abortion clinic, or asked why she wasn’t on the pill, I might see a story here. Otherwise, this isn’t a character issue for Palin. In fact, I’m happy to see a pro-life family rallying and planning to care for an unplanned/out-of-wedlock pregnancy.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
lixy wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Edit: Are people looking for her to disown her daughter, or what?
Nah. Just a schadenfreude case where the dirty laundry of a staunch anti-abortion and abstinence-only conservative public figure happens to be most ironic.
The people making a fuss about this pregnancy are more likely to be sympathetic to the girl than Palin’s camp. They don’t want anyone to disown her. Matter of fact, it’s about empowering the girl and preparing her to make choices. On the other hand, premarital sex and unwanted pregnancies are more likely to be issues for the right-wing crowd.
I really can’t make it any clearer.
I’m sorry, what’s ironic? That a child may make choices contrary to her upbringing? Some of you think this is news to conservatives? Seriously? I mean, I’m sure every drug user, liar, murderer, thief, had to be actually raised to do such things.
Now, if Palin marched her daughter down to an abortion clinic, or asked why she wasn’t on the pill, I might see a story here. Otherwise, this isn’t a character issue for Palin. In fact, I’m happy to see a pro-life family rallying and planning to care for an unplanned/out-of-wedlock pregnancy.[/quote]
You seem to confuse irony with hypocrisy.
Also, nobody here attacked Palin’s character because of the pregnancy of her daughter.
[quote]makkun wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Sarah should shield Bristol and kid from publicity to the greatest extent possible. If their private lives are supposed to be out of bounds, why the hell is she bringing him to the convention and putting him on display?
Agree.
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If the whole thing is a private family matter and it would be bad to use it against them, it’s a bit hypocritical to make use of it. Families are to be shielded, not paraded. That goes for both sides obviously.
Makkun[/quote]
Where are you guys getting your strategery from? Hiding her daughter and that guy from the convention would give the appearance that Palin was ashamed. She does that, and she might as well bend over and get ready for the left to ram it up her ass.
Fuck that. Everyone brings their families to the Convention - especially if they are proud of them. If they are worth fighting for, who gives a shit what the pussies on the left think? At least she’s taking the fight to them.
Just because they attend a night or two of the RNC nowhere close to giving permission to delve into their personal lives - as if the left-wing blogosphere is going to NOT delve into their personal lives either way.
Nope - she’s taking the fight to the fucking liberals. And it’s about time someone on the right had a pair of balls big enough to do that.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
With more and more stuff being disclosed, my prediction is that Palin will bow out. She’s got her hands full.
What has her hands so full that she should drop out?
Yet another liberal drinking the dailykos koolaid. [/quote]
Listen up RJ, I made a prediction… an opinion. Yeah I’m a PROUD liberal, and you’re a proud conservative. But you keep showing how insecure you are by name calling and bashing ANYTHING that doesn’t sit with your view of the world. Get a grip. It’s an open forum.
Gosh, you righties are starting to sound like the reactionary crybabies.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
With more and more stuff being disclosed, my prediction is that Palin will bow out. She’s got her hands full.
What has her hands so full that she should drop out?
Yet another liberal drinking the dailykos koolaid.
Listen up RJ, I made a prediction… an opinion. Yeah I’m a PROUD liberal, and you’re a proud conservative. But you keep showing how insecure you are by name calling and bashing ANYTHING that doesn’t sit with your view of the world. Get a grip. It’s an open forum.
Gosh, you righties are starting to sound like the reactionary crybabies.
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I’m glad you’re a proud liberal. Seriously. Everyone needs to be proud of something.
I’m not bashing you. I read the exact thing you are saying yesterday morning on the dailykos. You are like the 3rd person who has said exactly the same thing the kos was saying.
It is most definitely not being “insecure” to disagree with a piece of shit website that had Palin’s daughter being the “real” mother of Palin’s DS baby.
If you walk like a duck and quack like a duck, maybe you should do something un-duck-like if you don’t want to be considered a duck.
It is an open forum, and being that it is, I am free to disagree with anyone I feel like.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
bald eagle wrote:
You are a freaking loon who makes no sense - now run along and go play in the street.
I’m the loon? You’re the one who believes the story about talking snakes, magical gardens, and saintly hookers.
Get off your pillar of salt and address my answers, or bow out.[/quote]
You know, it is just a matter of time before they figure out you’re loose.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Sloth wrote:
lixy wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Edit: Are people looking for her to disown her daughter, or what?
Nah. Just a schadenfreude case where the dirty laundry of a staunch anti-abortion and abstinence-only conservative public figure happens to be most ironic.
The people making a fuss about this pregnancy are more likely to be sympathetic to the girl than Palin’s camp. They don’t want anyone to disown her. Matter of fact, it’s about empowering the girl and preparing her to make choices. On the other hand, premarital sex and unwanted pregnancies are more likely to be issues for the right-wing crowd.
I really can’t make it any clearer.
I’m sorry, what’s ironic? That a child may make choices contrary to her upbringing? Some of you think this is news to conservatives? Seriously? I mean, I’m sure every drug user, liar, murderer, thief, had to be actually raised to do such things.
Now, if Palin marched her daughter down to an abortion clinic, or asked why she wasn’t on the pill, I might see a story here. Otherwise, this isn’t a character issue for Palin. In fact, I’m happy to see a pro-life family rallying and planning to care for an unplanned/out-of-wedlock pregnancy.
You seem to confuse irony with hypocrisy.
Also, nobody here attacked Palin’s character because of the pregnancy of her daughter.[/quote]
I addressed the “irony” of it in the first paragraph. It’s like saying, “how ironic that a chronic liar would come from a family that teaches honesty.” It happens, and noone stands around thinking “how ironic.”
You mean, a daughter of a conservative can get pregnant, contrary to their upbringing?! Stop the presses, the leftists have just discovered something we already knew!
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
bald eagle wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
bald eagle wrote:
You are a freaking loon who makes no sense - now run along and go play in the street.
I’m the loon? You’re the one who believes the story about talking snakes, magical gardens, and saintly hookers.
Get off your pillar of salt and address my answers, or bow out.
You know, it is just a matter of time before they figure out you’re loose.
That one was even wittier. You should be proud… you’re slipping and dodging like Pretty Boy.[/quote]
To go on and on with you is pointless.