OK so I had a crappy training session. No PR’s at all, zero zip nada. I’m kind worried I didn’t de-load enough or maybe I de-loaded too much I don’t know. I hit 420 raw off the 2 board on 5/19 which was a PR. Today I warmed up to 385 for a nice and easy single then I suppose I over reached throwing some quarters on the sides for 435 15lbs above my PR I did two weeks ago. I touched the board and the bar moved an inch and I needed my spotter. I’m trying to bring it low even raw and then pitch it back over my face where my lockout is strong but I either pitched back too far too fast or I didn’t have the strength; probably both.
Very upset I took the quarters off and got only 2 back down at 385 I was hoping for three but again I needed the spotter right off the board. It gets worse. My lockout pin presses where I last did 545 x4 x5 [two sets on 5/19] tonight I could not move 545 off the pins. I was so embarrassed, even if I am the strongest person in the gym at the moment I compete with myself and my PR’s and to go from 545 x4 and 545x5 to 545x0 is a sad day for me. Maybe that 385 work tired me out a bit but it should not have been that bad. I finished with some calves and traps [surprise surprise] as I usually do.
Some days are better than others. This is the first ME training session since May 5 I didn’t set a PR in something. Very sad but again maybe my body de-loaded too much or not enough.
Tomorrow is assistance day. Mostly kroc rows and other random junk. Maybe I can film myself doing krocs. After my calves I’m second most impressive with kroc rows.
That is a nice cycle actually, i have to say - i think that the ratio of tren:test should actually be really effective, reduce sides but still powerful. That is more than enough Tren really - in the old para days most guys used 3x75mg didn’t they? 225mg a week.
I am considering trying a similar cycle at some point - we’ll see, i have got to TRY tren at least, if it makes me crazy, i’ll stop. Easy. Ahem…
Make sure to keep this cycle updated Saps, i am really interested in how your numbers are going to improve, have you posted a set of ME/Near ME lifts here for us to compare yet? Is that your intention?
Also, you aren’t a BB so what you look like is of no concern here - unless you are going to concentrate on that for a little then by all means. But we do steroids/Train to improve in our discipline, if that is Aesthetic, then pics are a must, if it is putting up bigger numbers then data is a must!
Good stuff mate, youre gonna “Blow Up” in the words of Boxer666!!
Thanks JJ and yeah you must try tren at least once. I know you love Deca; I loved it too. 3 cycles of it. However when I bumped up from 300mg EW to 450mg EW something kind of didn’t agree with me. Admittedly, I was taking the SSRI lexapro know to have sexual sides but still 750mg Test EW and 50mg proviron ED should have helped.
Anyway, as a powerlifter I cannot wait to be on tren and dbol at the same time.
For you JJ I think with the experiences you had with Deca I’d be cautiously recommended it for you. As you say, might wanna start low dose in your case as I know some of your Deca recovery periods were quite long
Thanks for sharing your cycle with us, saps. It will help me greatly in the near future.
What’s the concentrations of your solutions? Are you pinning ED? How many sites do you have? You’ve probably answered all these questions on another thread, and I am sorry for asking them (again).
[quote]saps wrote:
Thanks JJ and yeah you must try tren at least once. I know you love Deca; I loved it too. 3 cycles of it. However when I bumped up from 300mg EW to 450mg EW something kind of didn’t agree with me. Admittedly, I was taking the SSRI lexapro know to have sexual sides but still 750mg Test EW and 50mg proviron ED should have helped.
Anyway, as a powerlifter I cannot wait to be on tren and dbol at the same time.
For you JJ I think with the experiences you had with Deca I’d be cautiously recommended it for you. As you say, might wanna start low dose in your case as I know some of your Deca recovery periods were quite long[/quote]
Shit i wasnt even thinking about that… you’re right. Well i am good with all the non-19Nors anyway for now, and when i am on TRT (funny how i have just resigned to that at 28 isnt it…) i may give it a blast.
Good luck, you’re gonna be throwing those plates around. Like Branch Warren!! lol
[quote]kroby wrote:
Thanks for sharing your cycle with us, saps. It will help me greatly in the near future.
What’s the concentrations of your solutions? Are you pinning ED? How many sites do you have? You’ve probably answered all these questions on another thread, and I am sorry for asking them (again).[/quote]
The Test E is 250mg/ml
The Tren E is 200mg/ml
The dbol is 5mg per tab
I can and will use delts, glutes, ventro and perhaps even quads. With the Enanthate esters I won’t need ED pins.
And kroby fire your questions away at will. I know you’ve pondering a tren cycle too. Happy to answer what I can
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
This should be a nice journey for us to follow. I’m glad you changed the name too, because I’ve never yet managed to write it without having to double check the spelling
Bushy[/quote]
I know you weren’t alone. You know I PM’d Joe Joseph who just changed his to JJ after I did mine. I told him now all we need is you to merely become Bushy and the field was set. There’s a lot of guys who we just naturally shortened their usernames RJ, FG, Schwartz [which is not much shorter], JR. Simplest is best
[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
Shit i wasnt even thinking about that… you’re right. Well i am good with all the non-19Nors anyway for now, and when i am on TRT (funny how i have just resigned to that at 28 isnt it…) i may give it a blast.
Good luck, you’re gonna be throwing those plates around. Like Branch Warren!! lol
Joe[/quote]
In your case, just do what I’m doing keep the Test at double or more than the tren; throw the proviron in and I think you’ll be ok.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Looks like a good run for you. Ill also be following along with interest.
Looks as though there are a few of us that have a start date all right around the same timer period. Im less than a week out.
Impressive squat numbers btw buddy.[/quote]
I know it seems guys are always on together. But then again this is a rather large group of us. You, me, littlerunt and mbaina I know are all geared/gearing up now, no doubt there are a few others.
I know back a few months ago when Cortes and World and a few others were on it I almost felt like I was in the minority of guys not on it at the time.
[quote]saps wrote:
Joe Joseph wrote:
Shit i wasnt even thinking about that… you’re right. Well i am good with all the non-19Nors anyway for now, and when i am on TRT (funny how i have just resigned to that at 28 isnt it…) i may give it a blast.
Good luck, you’re gonna be throwing those plates around. Like Branch Warren!! lol
Joe
In your case, just do what I’m doing keep the Test at double or more than the tren; throw the proviron in and I think you’ll be ok. [/quote]
Well its not during the cycle that bothers me, with test that is fine - even without, with proviron i’ll keep hard ;D
It is the extended shutdown after - the “nopthing will work” recovery. Admittedly i havent done a test taper from it or run test past t by a few weeks… i bet if i chose the acetate over enanthate, and ran it for 7-8 weeks at about 300mg, then Test at 600mg for the ful 12… with a 6-8 week taper i may be jolly good… that my friend, sounds like a plan!!
[quote]saps wrote:
The taper is going to help out big time with recovery from either nor19[/quote]
MM…i suspect you are bang on with that.
I am “in” my first test taper now… i misjudged my amount to save and thus am using 60mg for 4 weeks tapering down. I am on the 3rd or 4th week of stasis and i have a great libido. It is actually better than when on 500mg test TBH! whats that about?
I will be running just test, that is; zero 19-nors for the next few cycles to “recover” from that particular chemical, and using the test taper each time - with a 6 week stasis from 10-12 week of “on”.
I feel that this will see me OK, and if not - i have no aversion to TRT…
Saps,
Its still going to be what I posted 3-4 weeks ago now. Going to run 75mg prop, 50mg tren ace, 35mg mast, 25mg oral winstrol /day. Likely for around 7 weeks.
100iu hcg EOD, .25mg adex EOD, 300mg B6 ED
4 week stasis followed by nolva.
Start date looks as though its going to be the 9th. I hesitated picking a few things up just so I would hold off that extra week.
Just put my second pin 1.5cc/375mg of Test E this time into the right glute. I picked the delt Sunday since I was max squatting that day. Tonight I do my Dynamic stuff so the glute might be the best place. I decided not to start tren e just yet. I’m getting hooked up with a bit of tren ace so I will probably wait till next week to start tren.
Leaving for the gym now
Decent workout. I did my box squats as usual no big deal there. After my 12x2 of box squats I did three sets of leg press. I mentioned somewhere; maybe the t-cell forum that I just started doing these again. Last week I did 3x10 today I did 3x12,12,15 with the same weight as last week. That set of 15 took back years. I forgot what it was like to push that hard for reps; kinda nice.
Then I went on to my band GM’s and my low back was pumping something fierce. It was almost like a dbol pump but I haven’t started dbol yet. Not sure the test is kicking in this fast or what.
Then I did calves but I think I actually need to rest them as my shin bones were literally hurting.
Did a few standing abs stuff
All in all pretty good and much better than the other day.
I didn’t post it but last night I did some lats and stuff nothing worth mentioning.
My scale weight is up like 5-6lbs since Sunday so its probably me eating because even prop would not cause 5-6lbs gain in 3-4 days but who knows.
For the purpose of this log my ME days will be more telltale than my DE days. Though 5 more reps on the leg press than last week is something worth mentioning.
Didn’t train yesterday; worn down. I did ME Bench today so no maxing but everything felt lighter and felt more explosive. I was getting crazy pumped from my bandpushdowns I always throw in at the end. Here’s the psycho part. I weigh 9-10lbs more today {friday} than I did sunday.
Now I have long rebelled against the notion that it takes 3-4 weeks before you can feel Enanthate or Cypionate kick in. Long ester or not I still have shot 750mg of Test [minus ester weight] into me. The thing is 9-10lbs in 5 days is crazy. I cannot do that on dbol and test and deca together. Perhaps since I had had a year off my body was just ready? The other thing is the pumps I’m getting already are sick. And I don’t train for pumps either. The one thing I did today that was bodybuilding/pump oriented was some bandpushdowns. I was extra swollen. Then of course my traditional calves and traps at the end. Reps were up by several and the engorgement was ridiculous I felt like I was walking on 20" cows.
Still unsure if I will start Tren on Sunday or Wednesday. Kinda waiting for my secret santa’s half vial of Tren Ace. I will probably start my Tren E at a lower dose and graduate as the Ace is gone.
Just put another 375mg of TestE in. I did also start the Tren E today as well. 150mg of Tren E into the ol’glute max. If you really wanna split hairs my syringes have markers every 1/10 of a cc so technically I had to guess/eyeball when I was between 7 and 8 10ths. The Tren E is 200mg/ml and I’m going to use 300mg EW. I will start dbol a week from today I think. Tonight is ME Squat. Can’t wait.
