[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I wonder what all the clamor is about “bad” cops? There have always been bad cops. But there are bad lawyers, doctors, butchers, plumbers etc. There are some bad people in every profession and field of endeavor. Does anyone think that 200 posts on a bodybuilding site will change that? For that matter do you think black people rioting and destroying and stealing others property will change that? Nope…still going to be good and bad in every profession. Nothing can change that because people are imperfect whether deliberately screwing up or just screwing up through stupidity. It’s simply a condition of life.
If you walk through life hating cops because one of them beat you or your Uncle Harry up 5 years ago there are no words to describe your stupidity.
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This is like me saying that there are non-child molesting priests and child molesting priests. But, you know that is just the way all professions are, so…there is nothing we do to can change because that is the way it is…
A cop like a priest is held to a higher standard than the majority of professions. If a cop is bad, he needs to be removed. I want to become a cop and half the men in my family are cops and a good chunk of my friends are cops. That doesn’t mean that I just say fuck it, she probably deserved it…
No, we fix the problem. Cops that can’t de-escalate should not be dealing with people. They have house mice for a reason. [/quote]
Not a good comparison, not even close.
It’s the difference between temperament and a child predator. A “bad” cop can be bad for many reasons. A few are just plain dumb (just like in other professions). Some are a bit abusive, some simply don’t care as much about people as they should. But keep in mind we are talking about a fraction of a percentage. Most are quite good, patient and willing to risk their lives to protect you.
Too much clamor about “bad” cops lately. There is an obsession brought on by a couple of shootings where the police ended up being right. Remember “Hands up don’t shoot” well that was not how that particular victim was shot was it? As it turns out he was shot because he charged into the Police officers car and tried to take his gun. Quite a bit different than the crap the media handed us isn’t it?
The first question people have to ask themselves is this? “What did you do wrong”? In other words, how did you fall into the officers sites?
Are you being pulled over for speeding a lot? Here’s an idea, obey the traffic laws WOW!! I think I’m onto something with that one huh?
Are you playing Internet “know it all” when you have a face to face meeting with your local police?
“I know my rights”
Or, “I pay your salary”
My favorite: “I know my fourth amendment rights”
Yeah that one will really help you out.
Instead of playing legal eagle why don’t you speak to them the way you would a friend. They are human beings and when they are pushed they will push back just like you and I would. SHEESH does this stuff really have to be said?
In other words be compliant.
The Officer who stops you has no idea if you are a good guy, bomb carrying terrorist, or someone who just murdered their girlfriend. But of course you don’t realize that because you are only seeing your own side of the issue. You know you’re a good guy but the cop has to find that out yet. By being compliant the officer will soon see that you are pretty much just like him and want to get home to your family but had a bit of a heavy foot that evening.
So, like I said earlier human nature is NOT changing as it is impossible for it to change. Human beings make mistakes and sometimes are actually not suited for the job that they’re in. And as I also said it happens in all careers. And there is no way for it to stop. In fact, a Police Officer can have a sterling 15 year record and then one night he might just be in a bad mood and boom! You start playing Internet lawyer and before you know it you are on the ground, face in the dirt wondering what happened. Why risk pushing his buttons. Be smart and comply. If you don’t particularly like the tone of his voice etc., complain later to his commanding officer in the light of day.
In the one video all the guy had to do was stop walking and put his hands up and he’d be alive today. Not a difficult thing to do is it? But instead we have a video where a Cop shoots someone and all of the people viewing the video saying “oh man that cop shouldn’t have done that.” Really, why not? Should he have allowed him to fish around in his pockets until he pulled out a weapon?
We have the best trained and most educated Police Officers that we’ve ever had in our entire history! Start out with respecting the laws that have been written and then if you run afoul of those laws, by accident or otherwise you better start respecting the people who have to enforce the law. It all begins with compliance. If you can’t do that you deserve what happens to you if only because you’re too stupid to easily prevent it.
