The debate on what exercises cause injury is a difficult one. One of the problems I see with it is that some people just get injured more easily than others. Another problem (one that has already been mentioned) is that not everyone suffers the same injuries from a specific movement.
I think trial and error applies to injury prevention just as much as it does to finding exercises that promote the most growth in an individual.
Hazza you should listen to Prof. X, the guy knows his shit. Plus he can curl more with one arm than you can bench.
[quote]Hazza1989 wrote:
Ronsauce wrote:
So, I made a thread earlier on asking if he was bullshitting me to which loads of people came on and basically sucked his cock in agreement. Just sayin’[/quote]
It seems your problem with this isn’t whether exercises are safe or not, your problem is that people agree with this person who you dislike more than they agree with you, so you are trying to find ways to prove him wrong and get people on your side as some kind of social defense mechanism for your insecurities.
Just sayin’
I do two biceps exercises that I think might be a little risky. One is underhand rack pulls. I may put 225-275 on the bar and pull it, and even try to curl it 2-3 inches.
The second is upper range partials with closegrip chins. I will kneel on a bench so that the bar is just above my head, and then rapidly pull-up.
I also do incline curls where I clean the weight, and then drop it and catch the weight about half way down. Seated barbell curls from off of the lap might be a tad risky too.
I usually do one of these for 4 or 5 triples and then do higher rep sets of a more traditional type of curl.
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
I do two biceps exercises that I think might be a little risky. One is underhand rack pulls. I may put 225-275 on the bar and pull it, and even try to curl it 2-3 inches.
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Risky indeed, especially if your arms are bent on the initial pull
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
I do two biceps exercises that I think might be a little risky. One is underhand rack pulls. I may put 225-275 on the bar and pull it, and even try to curl it 2-3 inches.
The second is upper range partials with closegrip chins. I will kneel on a bench so that the bar is just above my head, and then rapidly pull-up.
I also do incline curls where I clean the weight, and then drop it and catch the weight about half way down. Seated barbell curls from off of the lap might be a tad risky too.
I usually do one of these for 4 or 5 triples and then do higher rep sets of a more traditional type of curl.[/quote]
Youre the man now dawg
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
I do two biceps exercises that I think might be a little risky. One is underhand rack pulls. I may put 225-275 on the bar and pull it, and even try to curl it 2-3 inches.
The second is upper range partials with closegrip chins. I will kneel on a bench so that the bar is just above my head, and then rapidly pull-up.
I also do incline curls where I clean the weight, and then drop it and catch the weight about half way down. Seated barbell curls from off of the lap might be a tad risky too.
I usually do one of these for 4 or 5 triples and then do higher rep sets of a more traditional type of curl.[/quote]
I’m not trying to be a dork, but, as I’m trying to visualize what you describe, for the life of me I can’t figure out the “why”…?
Trying to curl what you rack pull sounds like a good way to tear your bicep.
[quote]ucallthatbass wrote:
Hazza you should listen to Prof. X, the guy knows his shit. Plus he can curl more with one arm than you can bench.[/quote]
what, he can curl 92.5kg with one arm? Kudos to him then.
[quote]Hazza1989 wrote:
ucallthatbass wrote:
Hazza you should listen to Prof. X, the guy knows his shit. Plus he can curl more with one arm than you can bench.
what, he can curl 92.5kg with one arm? Kudos to him then. [/quote]
Its ok lil buddy… Ill side with you… You are right in every aspect… dont let the haters hold you back… these fools dont know what its like lifting for less than one year and miraculously gaining all the vital information needed to construct the most hardcore elite body such as yours.
FUCK THEM ALL… I hope they have 1000 years of pain and die 999 horrible deaths. And 92.5 one arm curl… shit I saw you benchin that with one arm for 17 reps… I got the vids and Ill post em later…
[quote]ucallthatbass wrote:
Hazza you should listen to Prof. X, the guy knows his shit. Plus he can curl more with one arm than you can bench.[/quote]
Oh, puuuhhhlleeeeezzzz.
Everyone on this site knows PX built his arms by curling no more than 15lb db’s… for 8000 reps… standing on a bosu ball.
Anything heavier is just not ‘functional’.
[quote]Hazza1989 wrote:
ucallthatbass wrote:
Hazza you should listen to Prof. X, the guy knows his shit. Plus he can curl more with one arm than you can bench.
what, he can curl 92.5kg with one arm? Kudos to him then. [/quote]
I like how he slips that in there as if 92.5kg is something to be proud of.
at least his avatar is decent.
[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
Hazza1989 wrote:
ucallthatbass wrote:
Hazza you should listen to Prof. X, the guy knows his shit. Plus he can curl more with one arm than you can bench.
what, he can curl 92.5kg with one arm? Kudos to him then.
I like how he slips that in there as if 92.5kg is something to be proud of.
at least his avatar is decent. [/quote]
Did you miss the Kg part ?
Thats 215lbs, which i would consider a pretty good bench all in all for anyone under 2-3 years training
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
mertdawg wrote:
I do two biceps exercises that I think might be a little risky. One is underhand rack pulls. I may put 225-275 on the bar and pull it, and even try to curl it 2-3 inches.
The second is upper range partials with closegrip chins. I will kneel on a bench so that the bar is just above my head, and then rapidly pull-up.
I also do incline curls where I clean the weight, and then drop it and catch the weight about half way down. Seated barbell curls from off of the lap might be a tad risky too.
I usually do one of these for 4 or 5 triples and then do higher rep sets of a more traditional type of curl.
Youre the man now dawg[/quote]
I won’t lie; I laughed
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
mertdawg wrote:
I do two biceps exercises that I think might be a little risky. One is underhand rack pulls. I may put 225-275 on the bar and pull it, and even try to curl it 2-3 inches.
The second is upper range partials with closegrip chins. I will kneel on a bench so that the bar is just above my head, and then rapidly pull-up.
I also do incline curls where I clean the weight, and then drop it and catch the weight about half way down. Seated barbell curls from off of the lap might be a tad risky too.
I usually do one of these for 4 or 5 triples and then do higher rep sets of a more traditional type of curl.
I’m not trying to be a dork, but, as I’m trying to visualize what you describe, for the life of me I can’t figure out the “why”…?[/quote]
My biceps development has been stuck right at 17 inches forever and it was my biggest weakness. If I went straight to curls, I just did not seem to be able to turn on the biceps. I tried doing underhand pulls with about half of my rack pull max just to wake up the biceps before curling. It let me put a good 30 pounds more on the barbell curl. Maybe it just tightened up my set-up for curling.
Maybe exercises like this seem foreign to the BB forum. They are all modified from things I’ve seen on the Strength Sports forum and from Poliquin exercises (partial curls, midrange reversal curls)
[quote]Rape Weight wrote:
Trying to curl what you rack pull sounds like a good way to tear your bicep.[/quote]
Rack pull=550 from knees
Underhand partial curl=about 245
Look, I got tired of 17 inch arms and decided to come up with some exercises that work for me.
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
Rape Weight wrote:
Trying to curl what you rack pull sounds like a good way to tear your bicep.
Rack pull=550 from knees
Underhand partial curl=about 245
Look, I got tired of 17 inch arms and decided to come up with some exercises that work for me. [/quote]
See, trying 245 is much better than trying that 550.
X thanks for chiming in and reminding us of how awesome you are and how shitty the rest of us are.
[quote]schultzie wrote:
X thanks for chiming in and reminding us of how awesome you are and how shitty the rest of us are.[/quote]
What?
I have had an injury due to biceps curls. It wasn’t major like a tear, but it was enough to show me that the heavier you go, the greater the risk is.
But then, comments like your own are why I used to avoid mentioning how much I lift…because one of you is simply bound to get butt hurt over it if it is much more than you do.
Sorry for hurting your feelings by not avoiding the topic completely.
what happened to the old ‘try it and see if it causes pain’? I will vouch that incline curls will cause pain if you have a torn labrum as both mine are busted. If it hurts, stop, if not throw it in the mix every now and then.