Russian Military Buildup Outside Ukraine

After Pearl Harbor and Roosevelt asking Congress to declare war on the Empire of Japan

Adolf Hitler declared war on the United States

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I mean, he did promise Japan that they could unite forces if Japan hit Pearl Harbor… That being said, I don’t think Germany ever had the capacity to effectively wage war on the mainland.

But he did wage war against the mainland

The reason Japan attacked Pearl Harbor is because the USA had an oil embargo on Japan

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At some point if you let China and Russia get ahead, they will take the US down.

The US has by far the most powerful military in the world but thinking that you can isolate is not a winning strategy.

Russia threatens with higher nuclear alertness despite Putin co-signing an anti nuclear war agreement last year saying ā€œa nuclear war cannot be wonā€. I say he’s bluffing

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I think some of you guys (not you @SkyzykS) have this belief that in a wartime situation everything goes ā€œlord of the fliesā€ in an instant, That is absolutely not the case. If anyone’s interested I could post some key takeaways from my personal experience from 30 years ago of a similar wartime societal breakdown*

*I’m asking this because honestly I have to access some memories that I’ve extremely successfully repressed for decades and I’d like to know beforehand if someone wants those insights.

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I’d bet my house on it.

But I wouldn’t bet my life, or the life of my family on it. And that’s what is at stake.

Never implied that we should isolate…
just stating a historical fact that Germany declared war on USA after Japan attacked us

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I’m very interested, but if it would affect mental health (for lack of a better term), don’t do it.

I agree with you both.

My feeble .02 is that in extreme situations like war, the best AND the worst inherent in humans comes out. And there’s always two sides.

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Didn’t mean you

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While I’m curious about your experience I’m aware things don’t go Lord of the Flies everywhere in an instant but I do know of cases in which disorderliness and violence did happen.

Secondly, after some digging I have come around to realize what some things you said about Russia is true, namely that it’s not some bastion of ā€œtraditional values.ā€ I think hardly anywhere in the world with iPhone access with American influence in pop culture can be ā€œtraditionalā€ or not so for long, but I thought Russia was at least a little more resistant. Now I know it’s not.

One of my favorite blog authors has his (several day old) take on the situation, which is still worth a read for anyone interested in a military historian’s perspective on the situation. I expect more blog entries will be posted as the situation develops.

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Thank you!

I used to read this blog years ago, then stopped for a bit, and forgot the name. It pops into my head every couple months, and I never could find it again. Glad to finally find it.

You’re welcome.

I’ve never read anything that guy has written and felt dumber because of it. He’s also an entertaining and engaging blog author, in my opinion.

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All this is essentially a gift too. Just look at countries where the populace is heavily persecuted. We just happen to live in an excellent place.

It’s not a Marxist notion to think that everyone thinks way to highly of themselves. There is no reason a cultural shift can’t happen. I have discussed it before that I do not believe in the whole ā€œliving my truthā€ narrative.

My brother saw a report today they are letting criminals out of prison in Ukraine to help fight. That crap is straight out of a movie.

Nah. Not in exchange for one own wellbeing.

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Historically, isolationism isnt a cut and dry left/right issue in the united states.

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Kyiv still standing but situation is getting worse and worse as amounts of russian military around the city looks like an invasion of roaches.
British SAS veterans are planning to joining Ukraine forces also.
Best Ukrainian pilots are in Poland now to collect new fighter jets gifted by EU countries - these should really help.
Russians bombed a childrens hospital… NATO still thinks its not their war.
A private client of mine is a known microsurgeon in the Europe, he took 30,000 of his own money to collect all the stuff he needs and is going to Ukraine to help the doctors there.
Also a former latvian national guard who was sentenced for destroying a russian monument in Latvia, also went to Ukraine 2 days ago.

Its very hard to go to work and just do regular things. It feels like its a matter of days when all of the people i know will have to join the military to continue all this shit in our lands also, but since we are such a small country its basically a suicide mission. Still, i kind of feel its better that way, than to go and run with women. My family already hates me for thinking this way, but i dont think i could ever come back knowing that i ran.
Its just like when we were kids - standing in the line for a dentist. You hear the kid in front of you crying and you get more and more scared and you know you are the next in line. We are living with the idea of being next in line for almost a week now.

I am super glad to see how just regular people of the world are joining forces to help. I am disgusted by authorities who have the power to stop this within 10 hours, but they choose to abide laws in times when someone is killing children on the streets.

p.s - ukrainian guys got their hands on food that russians have… expire date on food packets for russian military is year 2015.

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Fair enough. But here are two general observations, I think I need to write them down as some sort of small personal catharsis. Compared to the pandemic, you’ve got many of the same elements - panic buying, flight of the elites followed by acceptance, even weirdly some grim elation and ā€œwe’re all in this togetherā€ (clapping for healthcare workers etc.) and spontaneous grass roots communism (you can’t talk about property rights in an underground shelter with hundreds of others inches away from you) but there are many extremely important differences - for example, many psychological coping mechanisms available during the pandemic cannot be applied to war.

As we have seen, denying reality is both possible and widely practiced when dealing with an invisible entity that kills people out of sight - if grads are tearing down apartment blocks in front of your eyes ā€œwell, we’ll have learn to live with itā€ is not a feasible rationale. The same goes for the illusion of agency - ā€œI won’t get pulverized by a random grad salvo because I’m young, lift and eat cleanā€ doesn’t work either.

Anyway, as can be gleaned from the pandemic, societies are pretty good at handling relatively short crises. When they drag out for a longer period, that’s when the problems start.

Edit: I just stumbled upon this, it fits perfectly with what I was trying to convey.

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I’m aware of that and covered it above. But in this thread I sense more of this group than isolationist leftists, so I asked them.

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