Another hot take is this: Russia is somewhat salty/jealous/concerned over NATO’s expansion into land they feel somewhat entitled to influence
The US gets away with a LOT of shit that would surely have most ppl in the US riled up about if it were tk happen to the ID. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, the US had missiles in Turkey within reach of Moscow. No shit Khrushchev wanted some parity
I still think most of the issue is politicians in a pissing competition, but something to consider
I don’t know much about that guy. Did he actually say an aim of Russia is or should be to invade other countries? If so, did he also say how the invaded people will be treated?
Would it be that China is in anyway going to affect how Americans can use the Internet?
I believe America is in the midst of its own Dark Ages for the next 50 or more years. So long as whatever Russia and China do with themselves or their interactions with others only concerns so far as it does not make this time even worse for us.
How do you think such stated hegemony will affect us?
Say Russia and Ukraine go at it. I’d rather they don’t, but if they do, I don’t see this affecting America.
China bullies some tech oligarchs. OK, fine. I get up the next morning, check my favorite websites, and go on with my life.
Perhaps I’m missing some things. Until people explain to me what important things I’m missing I will remain unconcerned. However I’m sincerely speaking here to see if I actually should be concerned. I’m sincerely curious, not trolling.
I only know about the Bolshevik Revolution and the communist era, and with all there is to know about those, I likely know only a modest amount of information. Other than those, I know close to nothing about Russia. I’m not a Russian citizen, never resided there, and I have no Russian ancestry. The same goes for every other country other than the USA. They’re all mysteries to me.
How do Americans consider Russia a mystery? Do you have a dim view of Russians? It appears from your posts you have a dim view on several nations.
I apologize for so many questions. You obviously aren’t obligated to answer all of them. Again, I’m sincerely curious as to why any support, even moral support has to be given to every stranger on earth, when it is impossible to do so.
Those are reasonable recommendations. Unfortunately for me, I don’t vote and I believe democracy is a total scam. Also in the current state of the US, we are so far gone that no politician can do what’s necessary to get things on the right track.
My plan is simply to go free, mentally, socially, and even intellectually—no emotional blackmail on social and political matters—tend to my family and friends, my community, and simply endure the US’s descent.
Personal opinion here, I believe this has already been happening for quite some time. There have been multiple cyber attacks coming from Russia, and they are ALWAYS on their subterfuge game. China has been actively building up their standing in the south pacific islands, and has economic/infrastructure capability to deter acts of war against them.
Do you think this is not already happening?
His plan envisages the conquest of Poland among other things, and we know what happened last time…
In addition, Dugin said that Ukrainians need to be exterminated for their “betrayal”. Probably not gonna happen, but considering that 80 years ago they killed a cool 3,5 million Ukrainians in less than two years during peacetime, anything is possible.
In the early-to-mid 21st century, a country cannot close its eyes and hope that the big bad world will somehow leave them be. Liechtenstein or Tonga could pull it off, but not the country as big as US of A. The European Union is desperately trying to be left alone at the moment, but it’s simply not working.
Dugin, who proudly calls himself a fascist, in his works (Foundation of Geopolitics) proposes several methods to destroy the US as punishment for it’s creation of a “liberal world order” seventy-seven years ago. Much like the ideologues of neo-salafism in the 20th century, it’s not related to what America has actually done, but what it represents.
One of the options is the formal alliance between a Russian Eurasian Empire and radical Islam against the US, the second is fostering a civil war between black racists and white anti-science right wingers, for example. The insane ramblings of Putin’s Rasputin seemed odd ten years ago. Here’s the only quote I could find in English.
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists”. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements — extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.
Of the concept of the Russian Empire in its various forms.
Yes it is, and it will be more and more frequent.
Holy shit, John Cena turned into a beta cuck.
I expected to disagree with you a lot in this thread considering past disagreements, but I find myself agreeing with nearly everything you’ve said. It’s refreshing to find common ground; I appreciate your knowledge and insight into this topic.
I find it very interesting that the president of Ukraine is admonishing the U.S. for ramping up tensions claiming that he does no expect an invasion from Russia.
And why are we screwing with Russia, when China is play war games with Taiwan? A far greater asset than Ukraine. I think the Ukrainians need to decide what they want, but the biden admin seems to be deciding for them. And it’s not like there is a russian puppet in Ukraine, the U.S., specifically Obama was responsible for the coup, installing a US friendly government.
Russia isn’t Afghanistan, or Iraq. They have the military and the power to turn our lights out. This is a war that can escalate very quickly, this is no third world despot we’re dealing with. If you think the Russian military is a joke, you are in for a rude awakening. You don’t want this war.
If we have to fight a super power, it’s China. Taiwan is vital, Ukraine is not. The Chinese unleashed Covid on us and lied and lied and lied. We really have no idea if it was deliberate or not. I don’t rule it out.
The government in place now, is Mao’s government. The mass murder stopped because the revolution is over, not because they had a change of heart. Mao stated very clearly that he is willing to sacrifice up to have the Chinese population for Chinese interests. It’s on video. Under any normal time, before Clown World, that would have been an act of war.
Half of Ukraine wants to be Russia. How are Ukrainian borders sacred and our southern boarder is not? It makes no sense and I smell a rat.
The current situation in Europe aside, I believe China poses the largest security threat to the West right now. MI6 has spoken publically about this very topic. Remember, this is a superpower that has been engaged in high level industrial espionage for many years now, not to mention sophisticated cyber campaigns in Australia and elsewhere. However, in more recent times, the insidious campaign runs alongside a more overt shift in its actions in the south China sea and growing noise that Taiwan’s days are numbered. If I were a betting man, I would say the forcible reoccupation of Taiwan will happen in Emperor Xi Jinping’s lifetime. I hope I’m wrong.
They have already invaded Ukraine. Crimea is Russian and obama did nothing to stop it, so why is it important now, when Russia already has Ukraine’s biggest asset?
We don’t want this war. 2 major powers have no gone directly to war since WW2 and I would like to keep it that way.
I think we need to consider what the Ukrainians want. Second, an invasion is not a given at this point.
Putin can sit on the boarder an amass as many troops as he wants and just sit there and laugh as we get hysterical over it.
I am little weary of this supposed ‘false flag’ operation reported by the State Department. If a bomb at russia are they going to call that a false flag? I am a little concerned they are setting us up for provoking a war and then calling it “Russian misinformation”. I am worried we are going to start this war. Yes, I totally believe this administration is capable of that. Biden is smuggling children across the U.S., why would be incapable of starting a major conflict with Russia. I have none, zero confidence in this administration. They have lied about everything.
I believe there will be no invasion. Prediction of this is starting to remind me of someone else who supposedly was going to “take over the whole world.”
America is an exporter of liberalism.
Fixed it
That is also true.
Won’t be long now. Maybe they wait until after the olympics.
Didn’t Russia do some shit during an olympics event not long ago? like when they did whatever they did to Georgia?
Suspicious timing…
Plot twist (not really)
China is making sanctions on Russia irrelevant (msn.com)
TL;DR: China and Russia have an oil deal that can help fund Russia through their invasion of Ukraine, if that is what they do. China played it’s card
Yup
However the media sure is making a big stink about it.
I hate the media nowdays… so much sensationalism… drums up anxiety within the general public and then we wonder why rates of anxiety/clinical depression are skyrocketing.
Wanna make a small wager?
No, I need to be extremely frugal regarding what I spend.
Ukraine is strengthening its army and inexorably moving West, so for Putin the time to strike is now as it will become more expensive in terms of costs and manpower with the passage of time. If he doesn’t act, he’ll be the first Russian Tsar (General Secretary of the Communist Party of the USSR, President of the Russian Federation, whatever) in 400 years to have lost Ukraine.
The President of Ukraine, Zelensky, doesn’t even speak Ukrainian. He’s a (Jewish) Russian speaker, therefore one of those that in theory couldn’t wait for Putin to save them from NATO-backed neo-Nazis. This is one of the more telling signs how Putin lost the Russian-speakers of Ukraine and therefore cannot overturn the country’s political drift through the ballot box. Pro-Russian political parties poll at 5-7 percent despite lavish Kremlin funding.
Before Crimea the split between pro-West and pro-Russian political forces was roughly 50:50.
Therefore, military action is the only way to bring back Kyiv into the fold. Russia is facing a demographic catastrophe (plus one million covid deaths), which cannot be mitigated even by high birth rates in the Caucasus. But those making children in the Caucasus are Khabib’s buddies who like their Sharia law and women in veils keeping their mouth shut. So bringing back lost sheep on the Western edge of the Empire is the only way for Vlad the Restorer to cement his place among the Tsars and delay the dual threats of Chinese dependency and demographic changes.
Former ambassador McFaul - whose extradition Putin famously asked from Trump - is to my humble knowledge the only Western person in the public sphere that gets Russia.