Russian Military Buildup Outside Ukraine

He missed the epidemic levels of people flying out of windows for the past few years.

In Russia, if you disagree with the state they throw you out a window or poison your tea.

In the US, they make you a professor and you work the paid seminar college circuit or start a nice youtube channel depending on your political affiliation.

or your plane “malfunctions” and you crash into a mountain.

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Wow, the Nazi Azov battalion.

False.

And you actually believe the U.S. is satisfied with the amount of military bases it has? When you want to rule the world even approximately 800 military bases is not enough. Like capitalism, it’s never enough.

What right-wing moron are you quoting Greg Gutfeld?

That doesn’t address the point at all. Even if we did put a base in Ukraine, it wouldn’t pose any more threat to Putin than the bases we already have in Estonia, etc.

He doesn’t need to be quoting anybody. Poison, bombing, and defenestration are all happening regularly. Your desire to tie that to some talking head you can make fun of instead of just acknowledging reality is telling.

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It wouldn’t pose more of a threat? More bases always provides more of a threat. What would be the reason for the 800 bases, if it doesn’t provide more of a threat?

And of course no evidence is provided. I’m just supposed to believe this because you told me. Just like you believe this because you’ve been told. It fits your narrative. The caveman logic of Russia baddddddd
U.S.A. gooooddddd. Now go and polish the 2 bolts on the side of your neck.

Defense. A base in Ukraine would be very useful for defending Ukraine. It gives you more ability to see incoming threats with radar and more ability to deploy missile defense systems. It allows you to respond faster to threats.

But unless not allowing Putin to bully his neighbors is a threat, it isn’t a threat.

You’ve made it clear that you are not interested in evidence and wouldn’t trust the sources anyways.
The list of Putin critics that have met with “random” untimely deaths is long and well documented. You can easily research this yourself if you are interested. It’s not worth my time to argue with you about it.

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Missile defense systems are defensive. They aren’t designed to (or capable of) hitting ground targets offensively. They shoot down incoming missiles to protect the surrounding area from attack. They don’t threaten Moscow no matter where they are.

Also, how does Putin have the right to protect himself by invading another country? That violates the very principle you are trying to argue for.

They threaten Russia’s ability to defend itself via offensive actions.

Yes. And @jcpjcp just stated that the “principle of indivisibility of security” dictates that defending yourself via offensive actions is not acceptable.

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:thinking:

:rofl: :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:.

Oh my god. What a fucking application this is.

There goes Putins modus operandi for like, the past 30 years!
:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

You fucking clown. I can’t believe you actually wrote that, especially with regard to the subject.

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Then there’s this.

They must have learned from the Iraqis.

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And you made it sound like this was happening ALL THE TIME and to everyday people.

And where is the evidence coming from? A source who is married to or adjacent to the profits first under any circumstance crowd

And for attacking Russia. Ukraine bordering Russia, is certainly a threat to Russia, especially with the coup that took place.
Just another example of the U.S.spreading freedom and democracy. Something we don’t even have here.

I’ll assume you weren’t being ironic on purpose.

And you believe this is a democracy?

And before you think you’re gonna launch a gotcha answer by saying this is a representative republic my question to you is who are those politicians representing?

Here’s my gotcha answer: you have the freedom to say all of the anti American, anti capitalist anti whatever nonsense you want but try that in the nations you hold up as more virtuous. Irony.

And what nations would those be?

You tell me.