Russian Military Buildup Outside Ukraine

Then buy in a village near the suburbs. Get some cheap Toyota hybrid and you are settled.

I live in a small-ish town in the American Midwest. Having a yard big enough for at least a small garden is not uncommon at all here. Not many people in town have animals, but you can go outside city limits in any direction and quickly see chickens, cows, horses, etc. I’m surrounded by farmland and grazing pastures.

I would love to have a garden, chickens, and maybe some livestock. That’s my goal someday. But that’s pretty out of reach for many Americans. Depends on where you live. An empty 2/3-acre lot near me is $35k, but land in very remote areas is cheaper. Potential downside there is how desolate those places are.

Is South Dakota a commie state? Cause there’s restrictions here, haha.

Any municipality / state that puts restrictions on what you can do on YOUR land concerning privately growing food or raising animals for your own consumption is a commie state / municipality, etc. to me.

Does the entity implementing such a restriction pay the mortgage / taxes / upkeep on said property?

If not, they can kindly fuck right off.

And it will only get more expensive.

The cliche of ā€œthey are not making any more of itā€ is true.

What about the smell of BBQ, smoking fish, ethnic foods (indian food with curry smells like manure to me)? Where does it end?

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I agree, haha. Even here in ā€œsmall government heaven,ā€ still seems like there’s too many rules about minutia.

I was living in Montana for a bit earlier this year. In the town I was in, there were 3 houses for sale - one for $800k, the other two for over a million. None of them were very big or particularly fancy. One idea I have is to (somehow) get some money, go out there and build a couple cabins over a summer or two. So many people want land and houses in those mountain/forest areas, you could probably make several hundred thousand on each place, maybe more as time goes on.

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At the end of my nose.

Smells like communism.

The thing is, it’s someone else’s smell that wanders into another person’s property. So sure, do what you want on your property but if it has a tangible effect on others, then it is no longer restricted to your property. Are things like noise ordinances communism?

So, can people not smoke on their property either?

It is a myriad of factors, but not allowing somebody to grow food on their property for personal consumption is pretty commie.

Noise is not essential to life. Eating is.

I could not disagree more.

To me, such municipality / state is a fascist state.

So there.

I thought you were married.

Agreed.

Any variant of socialism is pretty terrible.

I have shot so many guns I am practically deaf.

It has its advantages.

Well another option is land and to build on your own. However I am not sure how hard and expensive is there to get water, canal and electricity to your property. It is pretty cheap here, but takes a lot of waiting. You may as well make a well and solar.

Anyway my point is 20k usd per year here gets you in top 10 % income. 70-80 sqm apartments in cities are at least 100k usd depends on location. Smarter folks, especially in towns and smaller cities just buy housing in villages up to 15-20 km, which after renovating goes to 50k usd tops. It is faster to go to the city than city borders to downtown/city centre.

Not sure how pricing is there. But pretty sure yearly salary to housing price is not much different.

I would be a fucking Sultan there, damn.

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Like I said in a previous post, it depends.

I don’t live in an area where tons of people are moving to/wanting to buy land in, and 2/3’s of an acre (so roughly 2700 m² ?) can cost upwards of $35k USD. So obviously other places will be much more expensive.

In really cheap places I know of, one acre (roughly 4000 m² ?) is much cheaper, maybe $600 - $2,000 USD. This is probably pretty rare, and these locations are very rural. Only things around them are pastures and cows. It’s not exactly a dream spot for a house.

A small house could easily be at least $50k USD, but more than likely upwards of $100k USD to build if you could afford the bare land to put it on.

It’s different here. An annual income of $20k USD would make for a very bare-boned life for a single person here, let alone a family. No one’s buying land and building houses with that amount of money.

EDIT: Or, as I said earlier to Bauber, some spots that are desireable, like in the mountains in some states, a house with maybe 140 m² can easily cost over $1 million USD. Very few are affording that.

Well, that is the point. You say housing is not affordable in US. I say it is, while rates are cheap here, the ratio for income vs house price is about the same. Everyone here has his own place.

140 sqm building or building with an yard? We have some houses in my town at that price range as well. Farming Land here costs more, about 3000 usd flat rate per 1000 sqm.

My point is house is very affordable in US. I guess your average salary is roughly at around 60k usd?

Recent developments.

@jcpjcp

What say you to these advancements?

I think their use of drones for reconnaissance and precision targeting is pretty brilliant.

Do the facts on the ground say otherwise?

I mean, there seems to be a lot of real evidence that Russia is in a death spiral at this point.

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Shocking.

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