Russian Military Buildup Outside Ukraine

Or you can stop replying to me and go fuck yourself you arrogant fuck. I am not sure who the fuck you think you are.

No, money alone will not solve homelessness or the inner cities, but money is needed to address those issues. It (homelessness) mostly stems from mental health issues / drugs - which takes money to address. We are also 10s of trillions in debt.

Inner cities, crime, etc. are entirely different issues, but will still require money.

And again, it is the tax payers money and we are in debt. I want to see our debt paid on before giving money away freely too.

Let somebody else take the mantle of world protector and leave the US alone. Solve your own problems, pussies. I don’t understand the sentiment of every country when they get into trouble expecting US cash and aid and even demanding it like Zelensky.

I am not middle class, but I pay a metric fuckton in taxes to the federal government every year. All of those in my circle are pissed about sending money to the Ukraine and the more that I am sure will follow after the war. We don’t like Putin and are not Russian sympathizers. We are Americans and we are tired of being fleeced by the rest of the world.

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What makes you think this? You claim to have no actual sources of information, and also have all of the information.
I, on the other hand, actually talk to primary sources and know what I am talking about.

See above. You are clearly just talking out of your ass.

Putin has worked really hard to make Putin and Russia the same thing, but they aren’t. I actually love lots about Russia and the Russian people. But Putin has made it clear that he is a zhulik and vor. Putin isn’t good for Russia or for the world. Get rid of him and I think we can talk about working with the replacement.

I’m wait and see on this one. It isn’t our job to rebuild Ukraine and when the time comes, I absolutely agree that we need to rebuild America first.

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Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing.

If someone doesn’t understand what would happen this time around, there’s no hope for him.

Afghanistan fell apart within a week of US forces leaving. US forces have never been in Ukraine and yet it has held off Russia (a much larger and more capable foe than the Taliban) for a year and a half. I don’t think it’s the same.

I agree. It’s worse because we’re going to end up arming

Are you suggesting that Ukraine will use the weapons against us or that Russia will eventually win and gain possession of the weapons?

Either-or.

Certain folk with certain positions in this thread were 100%, and I mean 100%, WRONG about 'da Covid as well -bought the hype and gov’t propaganda lock, stock, and barrel. Totally different topics perhaps, but the same reasoning and perspectives apply.

ā€œSuccessā€ leaves clues. Just saying.

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Menstruating Leftist agrees with Right Wing Frat Boy Fucktard…hmmm…:

This article is covered extensively by Brand in that video (which I know no one will watch LOL). The author Chris Hedges used to work for the NYT, and is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist; he is now persona non grata of course:

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I’m almost two minutes in. Mike Pence is a fucking horror story. Trump’s biggest mistake was taking that ā€˜tard on as VP.

I’ve been trying to take bets that the United States will be bombing Ukrainians in Ukraine before the decade is out. The money we ā€œgaveā€ them will come with strings, and the Ukrainians will find those strings too burdensome and repugnant. Then we’ll remember that there were actual Nazi’s in Ukraine after all. We’ll be propping up the Regime in Kiev, and it’ll all sound really great.

I’m rooting for the people of Ukraine. I admire the way they are fighting for their country, and I am fine with us sending a lot of old-stock near or passed expiration date munitions to them to help out.

But we are pouring a lot more money in than just that. Victoria Nuland, Jake Sullivan, and the rest of those neo-con scumbags have turned large parts of the Mediterranean and Middle East into a wasteland. They’ll do the same to Ukraine.

No way! America will always stand with Ukraine.

Edit: I love how the January 6th Photo Op was a threat to America but two high-ranking U.S. officials waving a foreign flag is okay.

Damn, Americans are eating way too much Kremlin propaganda.

I cant believe how many people are excusing genocide, eco terorism and invading a country.

Dont be stupid. Your tax payer money were well recovered. The money you invested in the war have been recovered by energy markets the US was able to reach to after Europe turned it back to Russian natural gas and oil. Fuck Bulgaria from a 100% Russian supplied natural gas, last year bough and filled up its reserves from American companies. Spain from a Russian supplied country is now entirely American supplied and etc.

Even rebuilding Ukraine. You think the largest nuclear plant wont be rebuilded by US companies and wont get sweet reactor and maintenance deals? You think Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines will not get under US control?

The fraction US is sending to help entire Europe deal with a primitive agressor will boost US economy and markets way more, idiots. Whats up with your ego, morons? You are helping your bggest military and economic ally, Europe, not only Ukraine. And in fact everybody but the Kremlin propaganda washed brains in Europe is thankful to the US for the leadership provided in this crisis.

In fact it is NATO and US, WWIII is not happening. Otherwise Poland would have been long time ago retaken Kaliningrad and repealed Russia.

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Like I said, I’m rooting for Ukraine, but the track record of the neocons in the US administration is as follows: Afganistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Yemen. I’m probably leaving someone out.

We gave a lot of money to Haliburton to build a lot of nice things in Iraq. I hope things turn out better for the people of Ukraine, and for the rest of you in Eastern Europe generally.

The graveyard of empires vs. Soviet Russia.

Who is still standing? :rofl:

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I’m apparently someone who easily pissed you off after your usage of a demagogic phrase got called out.

Oh dear lord. This is pre-2022 Russian drivel which and talking points from which even the Russians have long since moved on but haven’t necessarily briefed their useful idiots in the West like Brand and Carlson.

ā€œ14k deaths in Donbas (yeah, these are totals and the vast majority are Ukrainians)ā€, ā€œwarfare against ethnic Russiansā€ etc. Here’s one talking point I’ve never heard before - Hedges complains that Zelenskyy banned ā€œVolodymyr Saldo blocā€ party yet Saldo is literally running an Russian government in occupied territories.

For an ā€œindependent thinkerā€ you’re pretty gullible, I’m not sure if that’s intentional of you fell validated as a supposed member of an in-group ā€œthat understands what’s really going onā€.

Chris Hedges also worked for a TV/media network of a foreign country, that is conspicuously missing from the list above.

I’m sure as a independent thinker you’ll do your own research and find out which country I’m referring to. Here’s a hint, it starts with ā€œRussiaā€.

Yeah, but it was never about logic it was about ā€œowningā€ the other side in a culture war.

The courage things really, really pisses you off, doesn’t it?