Russia Won't Go Away

We know there was vast amounts of fake news about HRC (the IC has confirmed this). In contrast, I am not aware of the IC confirming the presence of significant amounts of fake news about Trump. Thus, there is no basis for your stated equivalency regarding the amount of fake news each was subjected to.

Unless of course you have a source that indicates otherwise.

No, I am saying that all signs indicate Trump was planning to keep Flynn on.

The issue is not whether there was collusion regarding the hacking, rather, it’s whether there was collusion regarding the dissemination of the hacked material.

I’m not aware of this ever being a serious allegation to be debunked.

He did far more than simply lie to the VP. He was an unregistered agent acting on behalf of a foreign govt. He accepted money from Russia and Turkey that, per DoD regs, he shouldn’t have.

Not liking his hair? I suppose. But he can’t fire him if his (Trump’s) intent was to obstruct justice.

Technically, he could have ordered the AG to direct Comey to stop. Of course, this would have produced a reaction of Watergate-ian proportions, so the fact that he didn’t do it is not evidence to support a claim that he (Trump) didn’t want Comey to stop. Then of course there’s the fact that Trump admitted he fired Comey because of ‘the Russia stuff.’

If that’s the case, you’re not looking very hard.

Edit: Just saw where @thunderbolt23 pretty much fished this lake dry already.

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Also because a hostile nuclear foreign superpower fucking around with the election of the most powerful man on the planet is cause for alarm.

Unless you (not you specifically) are in agreement with Putin’s wants/needs of the world. In that sense there’s zero cause for alarm.

No worries. Adding another metaphor, you see a slow, fat meatball coming across the plate, you swing. We just both swung at the same time. :smiling_face:

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These types of posts are becoming common amongst the Trump Russia nutters.

If there’s no evidence, there’s no reason to believe it.

This is ridiculous. We’re talking about whether Russia actually impacted votes in the election. It’s an open question and a rational one because it’s an undisputed fact that Russia tried to impact the election.

Only a fool or a mindless partisan would suggest we not answer the question “did Russia actually do it?”, given that we know spent lots of time and energy trying to.

It’s an undisputed fact Russia tried to impact the election huh? What evidence do you have?

Cmon man… Thats not even a good conspiracy plan… I got a real good one…you should start a new thread… Mines movie quality so bring yur A game

I’m not going to post the link for a third time. Feel free to look back a few posts ago.

I wouldn’t say it’s “undisputed”; I would characterize it as ‘undisputed by serious, knowledgeable sources.’

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj5m4Or973UAhUJ0YMKHbLYBsYQFggnMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dni.gov%2Ffiles%2Fdocuments%2FICA_2017_01.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEA7Nv3C4vPkcIa735oLR5FpfUYlQ

As I said I don’t consider US intelligence reports reliable after the millions of people who died in Iraq as a result of fake US intelligence

Then why are you asking what evidence people have? Wouldn’t it be better to ask “what evidence do you have other than the evidence I don’t believe?”

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No offense intended, but I would not consider you a ‘serious, knowledgeable source.’ Thus, the fact that you choose to dispute the collective conclusion of the US intel community does not carry great weight.

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Forget about me, just look at the track record of US intelligence.

That stands for itself

Get your tin foil hats ready…

Dentist is right DOJ, CIA, FBI, SS, US Marshalls, all say Russia meddled plus other countrys all say they tried it in their neck of the woods during elections

Im writing my theory when Im right just remember you heard it here first

Show me the evidence. Then I will point out that I don’t believe in evidence after the fact

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No human organization is perfect. But on balance (and freely admitting I’m no expert on the subject), the track record of US intel seems very strong to me. This is especially the case in situations such as this, when they present a united front/singular opinion.

Because they should show us what they found

Why does any of this matter? You have said you wouldn’t believe something that comes from them.

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100% agreed. Unfortunately none of us have the power to make that happen.

To be fair, you would probably have better luck if you sent a Russian diplomat to the oval. You’d be a shoe in to get that kind of classified info.

Not sure how people can ask if Russia was involved or not. The Senate almost unanimously voted today for sanctions against them in part of because of what they did.

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