Changed significant amount of votes
Referring to votes before they were cast, or after?
After. I’m not sure what you mean before they were cast?
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No, I have seen no convincing evidence Russia changed any votes after they were cast.
Someone can be convinced/persuaded to change their (planned) vote before it is cast. And while this is a very difficult phenomenon to measure, I strongly suspect Russia did manage to change some votes via their fake news/disinformation campaign (although I am not suggesting they changed enough to swing the election–again, no convincing data on this score).
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Dude… Everyone believes Russia hacked… It’s a undisputed fact like gravity… What is still up in the air is…
Did Trump team know or work with Russia?
It’s already proven most likely it did not sway election significantly or any electorate machines hacked. So denying it happend is just dumb.
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Mexico was mobilizing Mexicans in America to become citizens so they could vote against Trump.
I’m not sure what disinformation even means. The MSM engages in disinformation constantly
It’s time to describe the anti Trumpers as in a state of chaos not Trump.
With regard to both of these assertions, I think you’re being disingenuous.
Don’t you mean misingenuous?
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when I think of disinformation campaign I think of something high level that a large government with high level technology, not creating videos on youtube or pasting fake stories.
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I genuinely believe the MSM engages in disinformation and has for decades. I’m not alone as I read that trust in the mainstream media by the public is something like 6%.I mean every couple of weeks there’s a fake news story that is debunked a week after it’s release. Much of what journalists in the MSM do today can fall under journalistic activism
Just saw this on Reddit.
What’s the difference between Russia and reality?
Trump has connections with Russia.
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I heard a movie is in the works for when this all over
Tinkle, tailor, soldier, spy
You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you’ll pee…ok mostly pee
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That seems like an unnecessary limitation on the term. But even still, coordinating the timely creation and distribution of YouTube videos and fake-news stories (as occurred in the 2016 POTUS election cycle) might well have qualified.
Neither the sincerity nor the ubiquity of your beliefs concerning ‘the MSM and disinformation’ is evidence that it is correct. As I have pointed out before, discrediting the MSM has been a central component of the conservative long-game for about 30 years now. (Ironically enough, this component amounts to a disinformation campaign in and of itself.)
I challenge your facts. And in that regard, I would point out (again) that, by definition, fake-news outlets do not issue corrections and/or retractions. So any outlet that does issue them is not engaging in ‘fake news.’
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Most of what the ruskies did was pass off stories well written and we’ll timed through 1000s of fb accounts and fake newspapers fake sources ect. It was a cyber attack
I’ve been saying for years fb is fake ass news. They can easily tell your likes and flavor and feed you more of the same. In marketing it’s called contextual advertising. FB allowes marketers to purchase trending information about users.
Also they can use obvious demographic info such as white males, 40+ , rural or suburban areas. It was a genius plan. Even if it didn’t sway the election by one side winning and pretending it didn’t happen is a massive success for R . Putin did great job by claiming it was just patriotic Russians. This strokes Trump’s ego. Which is all it takes. Russia gives 2 shits about Trump he’s a tool. They want sanctions lifted and more land. They won’t spend resources fighting isis unless it’s to their gain. He’s been played a fool hence now we all share the blame in the world’s eyes. We all honey boo boos know 
You’ll notice ED snipped this when he responded to my post and instead only talked about about a disinformation campaign from Russia which isn’t proven
Recent evidence (from State’s AG’s/Election officials) has clearly shown that they damn sure tried…and probably won’t stop until they figure a way to hack what are essentially non-internet connected voting machines.
People can keep making this a “Right/Left”/Partisan" issue all they want…the Russians will not stop…and as Rubio said (paraphrasing)…“The GOP can be on the losing end the next time”.
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Show me the evidence first hand. Don’t just talk about it show us
Any one know how to say:
“…Those Dumb Assed Americans…this shit is easier than I thought…”
In Russian?
Serious question: you’re not the least bit skeptical from the fact that they haven’t shown you anything first hand? They talked for months about reports from the IC and firms such as crowdstrike Which have now proven false
Can you explain why you have such confidence that evidence exists when they haven’t released anything?