Russia Won't Go Away

What do you want “evidence” of, raj?

What do you want the “release” of?

And what would be released that wouldn’t be written off as a “Witch Hunt” or “Fake News”?

And let me say this again as loudly as I can:

No EXTERNAL person or event will bring Trump down…“fake” or otherwise.

Any undoing of Trump will all be self-imposed.

Whatever they’re basing their claim on.

Forget the Trump supporters, how about the undecided that want to make a decision for themselves?

Glupyiye Amerikanskyii duraky, eto bylo ochen legko kak ya dumal…

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Thanks, loppar!

Can you at least admit that Russia attempted to influence election and was involved in cyber attack?

Also there is evidence they tried hacking voter machines and some county sites. Uncessfully is what Comey said. I agree they did not sway election but they tried. Trump would have won anyhow but by not acknowledging Russian aggression & having all these suspicious meetings it smells like some collusion. Just saying dots look like they connect and I ain’t Columbo

HH:

Something else that Comey brought out:

Not once in his meetings with Comey did Trump inquire in any significant way about the Russians;what they may or may not have done during the election; or even what their current Cyber war activities might currently be.

Hey @Tyler23 what do you think of this?

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/872614225709080578

Edit : this is the end of the Trump Russia nonsense.

Hey @EyeDentist you should watch this too

I’m not an attorney, but this is one rebuttal I’ve read. I understand obstruction is all based on intent, which is difficult to prove. I think it’s pretty clear he fired Comey because of the investigation based on Trump’s own words.

If Trump actually does have tapes, it could likely answer that question. He continues to not do himself any favors (nor his son) with his comments and tweets (he denied saying “I hope you can let this Flynn thing go” at the presser the other day).

If he does this though, then I would think he is just inviting impeachment.

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Robert Mueller begs to differ.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/10/politics/robert-mueller-russia-investigation-team/index.html

It will represent “the end of the Trump Russia nonsense” just as soon as Dershowitz is elected king, or becomes the sole judge on a revamped SCOTUS. Until then, he’s just another legal observer (albeit a very bright one) with a strongly-held opinion.

Related to Trump and Mueller:

If there is nothing there…wouldn’t it be to Trumps advantage to quit Tweeting about it; and to simply let this whole thing play itself out?

Unless there is some “smoking gun”; it’s doubtful it will sway Public Opinion about Trump that much…and Trump and his Minions will be happy.

Agreed with Lawfare, but here’s the other angle - I rarely like to assume ulterior motive, but with Dershowitz, I think there’s one in this issue, because he gets that this sword is double-edged, and he is arguing here as much to protect the Obama administration.

Let’s face it - if leaning on Comey to influence an investigation is potentially obstruction, yes, we have Trump, but we have General Lynch (and by proxy, Obama), according to Comey. I think Dershowitz knows this, and is beating his chest in opposition not so much for Trump, but for Obama’s administration.

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(Nice visual…)

This applies to so many things Trump.

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This is a very good read.

I find this rather amusing because Comey laid this out quite clearly in his testimony:

One other thing that was interesting: Comey said that the president was not then under investigation. But there’s no question that he is now. He is plainly under investigation for obstruction of justice.

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IDK as much as I think Trumps a giant Orange shit stain with butthole lips… The Obstruction case wont stick… Thats a very vague charge and hard to prove… Not to mention in many cases its a misdemeanor. Thats stuff like lying to a cop if he asks you something. Thats what they call a throw off charge most times and its hard to convict on it… Where he has more liability is Purgery if he goes under oath and gets caught in a provable lie…
Remember when it comes to the Law its not what you know its what you can prove

How’s the jeff sessions testimony going?

Guys was the sessions hearing a secret win like the Comey testimony?

You seem to be of the opinion that any testimony that is not utterly disastrous for Trump constitutes a triumph for his administration.

And the pathetic truth of the matter is, you may be right. This sort of low-bar standard is of a piece with the notion that any day Trump doesn’t jam his foot down his own throat (usually via an overtly bizarre or embarrassing tweet) constitutes a ‘win’ for him.

Conservatives used to refer to this sort of thinking as ‘the soft bigotry of low expectations.’

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