I hate to burst your bubble but Trump is not going to get impeached, or resign. And you my friend will be taking one year off of T Nation…but that won’t be for another 3 years and 9 months so have fun
I accept his quote as I noted already, but as a United States Senator, he had some working knowledge of how legislation is made at the federal level. As such, he was light years ahead of Trump. No candidate has ever entered the White House with such little working knowledge of how government works than Trump.[quote=“zeb1, post:733, topic:226860”]
We’re done.
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As someone who operates solely on emotion I would think that you would know better.
And I must say I should have known better than to claim that Warren Harding the worst President who ever held office was worse than our current President who has been there for about 4 months.
On credibility and communication in the Trump WH. Ugly.
Paywalled. Long block of text ahead.
Updated May 16, 2017 7:57 p.m. ET, WSJ
WASHINGTON— H.R. McMaster on Tuesday was the latest Trump administration official to find himself in an awkward position.
The national security adviser had to revise his defense of President Donald Trump’s unveiling of classified information to Russian officials. The president’s conversations were “wholly appropriate,” said Mr. McMaster, who a day before had said flatly that the release of sensitive information “didn’t happen.”
The reason for the clarification: a Trump tweet.
For the second time in two weeks, the president has used his Twitter account and interviews to undercut the comments of his senior aides. It is a pattern, established in the earliest days of the Trump administration when aides were forced to defend the size of the inauguration crowd, that risks undermining the White House’s standing with political allies on Capitol Hill and the public.
“After a while, your credibility just gets tattered, and it has repercussions on your ability to be effective on other issues,” said Eric Edelman, ambassador to Turkey and undersecretary of defense under President George W. Bush.
Last week, Vice President Mike Pence and others had sought to explain Mr. Trump’s abrupt firing of former FBI Director James Comey as a reaction to a memo from the deputy attorney general. But then, the president himself admitted he made the decision out of frustration over the FBI’s investigation of alleged Russian meddling in the U.S. election and his own feeling that Mr. Comey was “a showboat.”
“His staff and Republicans more generally are being called on every day to defend what are clearly flat-out lies, dozens upon dozens of lies compounding on each other with each new version of the story,” said Steve Schmidt, a GOP strategist who worked in the George W. Bush White House.
In the latest incident, Mr. McMaster on Monday denied that Mr. Trump revealed sensitive information, including sourcing and methodology, in the Oval Office gathering last week with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergei Kislyak. Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategy Dina Powell and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson made similar assertions in statements issued Monday evening by the White House.
But Tuesday morning, Mr. Trump tweeted that he has “the absolute right” to share “facts about terrorism and humanitarian or whatever.”
The inconsistencies are prompting Republicans in Congress, whose initial instincts may be to defend the president, to proceed with caution.
Sen. Richard Burr (R., N.C.), chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said that he wanted to withhold judgment until the committee had a chance to talk to White House officials who were in the Russia meeting with Mr. Trump.
“This is a good time to take a breath. The president has the ability and the right to talk about intelligence. There is a point that you cut that off with foreign leaders, especially when sources or methods are involved. So, it’s crucial that we talk to individuals to find out exactly what was said,” said Mr. Burr.
Democrats criticized the truthfulness of the White House. “The truth, as it were, sits atop shifting sands in this administration,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.).
A senior White House official said they deployed Mr. McMaster to address the reports about the Russia meeting because the president felt he would be a more credible source on the matter than his communications team.
The official also drew a contrast between the president’s tweets about firing Mr. Comey last week and those about the Russia meeting. The official acknowledged that last week’s tweets directly contradicted what White House aides had cited as the reason for Mr. Comey’s dismissal, but said the president’s comments on Tuesday were consistent with Mr. McMaster’s statements.
While the president and some of his top advisers have privately expressed frustration with the communications team, Mr. Trump has acknowledged the difficulty his aides face. “As a very active president with lots of things happening, it is not possible for my surrogates to stand at podium with perfect accuracy!” Mr. Trump tweeted on Friday, a day after contradicting his administration’s initial explanation of Mr. Comey’s firing.
The back-to-back weeks of tumult have spawned rumors of a staff shake-up, and close associates and senior Trump aides have spread the word that he is unhappy with his own communications’ team.
“Everyone is walking around shell-shocked and a little leery,” one White House staffer said. “Everyone is waiting for the other shoe to drop.”
At an off-camera briefing Tuesday, a subdued press secretary Sean Spicer was asked about his ability to provide accurate information on the president’s behalf, complaints on Capitol Hill about the distractions posed by the White House, and whether there was any prospect of a “reset” within Mr. Trump’s young administration.
His top deputies were not there to flank him, as they often are. Instead, most of the seats at his side were filled with relatively junior press aides.
“We do everything we can,” Mr. Spicer said, adding that in the case of Mr. Trump’s Tuesday morning tweets, Mr. McMaster had made clear after they appeared that he continued to stand by what he had said initially about the Russian meeting Monday night.
“The president’s committed to enacting his agenda,” Mr. Spicer said in response to a question about whether the administration had reflected on the turbulence of recent weeks. He also blamed leakers from the White House woes.
“When you look at what appears to be somebody intentionally leaking classified information, and you’re asking where the blame should be placed, I think it’s pretty clear,” Mr. Spicer said. “When you are committed to doing, whether it’s economic policy, or foreign policy that is in the best interests of the country, and people are going out intentionally leaking classified information that threatens national security, as I said, it’s dangerous.”
Asked if the White House is concerned about its diminished credibility, Mr. Spicer said: “No one would ever want that.”
In many cases, the president has thrown his aides off course with tweets.
In his first week in office, Mr. Trump brought an abrupt end to a meeting inside the White House between Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and senior adviser, and Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray with a post on Twitter, according to two people familiar with the meeting. As the pair was negotiating details about the first potential meeting for their respective presidents, Mr. Trump took to social media to renew his assertion that Mexicans would pay for a border wall.
The two presidents still haven’t met.
Four days after a successful address to a joint session of Congress, Mr. Trump tweeted in early March—without any evidence—that former President Barack Obama had wiretapped his office at Trump Tower.
The White House encouraged Rep. Devin Nunes (R., Calif.) to try to convince reporters that he had information validating the claim. But Mr. Nunes’s statements, which referred to classified materials, led to an outcry and his eventual ouster from leading the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation into possible collusion between Russian hackers and Mr. Trump’s campaign during the election.
“Credibility is a spokesman’s most important commodity,” said Alex Conant, a former communications adviser to Sen. Marco Rubio (R., Fla.). “You’re only as effective as you are believable. When Trump contradicts his communicators, he makes it impossible to succeed.”
As long as you brought up fast and furious how did Eric Holder get away with running guns to Mexico and actually getting people killed and yet he still kept his job. And Obama was not impeached…oh yeah I forgot Obama is a black liberal…silly me.
So much this… I have tried so very, very hard to reconcile my support and vote for trump with how he has acted, and I simply cannot. I voted for him for a multitude of reasons that now seem inconsequential and silly compared to the probable/actual shitstorm that he is at the epicenter of and may have caused…
Now let’s talk about the alleged “Comey memo” regarding what President Trump said to him. My following four points will blow a hole in Tyler’s dream of a Trump impeachment:
Comey has not come out and verified that he wrote a memo on President Trumps alleged comment. This latest snipe at Trump comes via yet one more anonymous tip. I will say this the left loves anonymous sources. That should tell us all something.
As an example for those who do not understand: If you speak to someone and have a perfectly friendly conversation and later on that person writes a memo saying you were hostile does that prove you were hostile? There are no corroborating witnesses and the note (if there even is one) …means diddley squat!
If Comey felt that Trump tried to obstruct justice why didn’t he come forward sooner? This was alleged to have happened in mid February why bring it up three months later…after you have been fired? That alone looks quite suspicious. Ask yourself if it were a President that you actually liked would this make sense?
If it is true and there was a note and the note is accurate, Trump presumably said “I hope you can let this thing go with Flynn” Or words to that effect. If this is what was said this is not an order, or a threat of any kind, it is a more like a plea, or a suggestion. And the definition of Obstruction of Justice is as follows:
An attempt to interfere with the administration of the courts, the judicial system or law enforcement officers, including threatening witnesses, improper conversations with jurors, hiding evidence, or interfering with an arrest. Such activity is a crime.
The comment allegedly made by Trump by an unnamed source which cannot be proven even if he did say it (with no other witnesses in ear shot) does not rise to the level of Obstruction of Justice according to the statute above. And as I have pointed out if all Comey has is a note…he might as well spray Windex on it and wash his car windows as he goes about looking for another job so his view of the road is not obstructed.
Things like the above fiasco created by the left wing media are not going to cause President Trumps removal from office…and when looked at closely as I did above are almost comical.
But the rabid left will keep trying…as the electorate looks on with disgust ready to punish the democrats for their sophomoric behavior in the mid-term elections.
Now unfortunately I have a busy day at work today and won’t be able to play here on T Nation. So, keep it clean lefties when you come out swinging. But in the end you are going to be very frustrated as so far the left wing media has got a big fat nothing!
The ship has already sailed on this particular portion of our discussion, but this comment - coming from the guy who champions “Both parties lie, all politicians lie, it’s just part of the game!” - is staggering. So everyone else lies, but Julian Assange is the man we’re supposed to take at his word?
Furthermore, you typed this in response to “Julian Assange has a show on a Russian government-funded television network” - making it an even more baffling response. You wanted “proof” that he has involvement with Russia - please explain how someone with a show on Russia Today (a Russian news network started by Vladimir Putin with a heavy anti-American slant to it) does not have any involvement with Russia?