Rush!

[JeffR]

[quote]orion wrote:
derek wrote:
JeffR wrote:
However, if you continue to supply our enemies and run your little mouths without declaring hostilities openly, then you are cowardly curs.

JeffR

Did this fucker actually appear to say that he was “OK” or at least indifferent to the whole sniper rifle thing?

If so, I want to buy a ticket to his house real soon.

No, this fucker said that we have a weapons industry and that we sell them internationally.

As we are a neutral country, those companies are not allowed to sell into war zones.

We can hardly not sell to anyone though, the US might attack in the future, because that includes the whole planet.

Then, and I will repeat this as often as possible, the number one arms dealer world wide,countrywise, is the US of A.

If you do not get it into your heads how ridiculous it is to whine about 200 sniper rifles selling billions worth of weapons all around the globe each year, well then continue to live in la-la land.

Want to know where Iran got most of its fighter planes from?

Do the names F-14 Tomcats, F4-Phantom and F5 fighters ring any bells you hypocritical ignorant fuckers? [/quote]

Hey, little guy,

One would think that the austrians would be sensitive to arming sociopaths (what with your recent history and all).

I suppose one could even hope that the austrians would, out of gratitude to the U.S. and their contributions to austria, AT LEAST THINK, about stopping weapons sales to regimes that the U.S. is fighting.

Guess not. Again, give the fact that you elect jorge haider and were willing participants in unbelievable horrors, I guess I expect too much.

Again, please show how many American made weapons are showing up in the shiite militia’s hands. Let me know. Oh, have we been selling weapons to iran since at least the time of a-thing?

I hope you get kidney stones at about 5 cm in size. I hope they are jagged and difficult to remove. Further, I hope the physicians take a long time in deciding to remove them.

JeffR

[orion]

[quote]JeffR wrote:

Hey runt,

Please show me where we are selling arms to iran since nutjob came to power.

That, of course, is the difference.

You f…ers know what you are doing.

I wish you’d sack up and declare war on the U.S.A.

That way, I’d be done paying taxes and I would have some free things courtesy of you.

JeffR
[/quote]

Well you armed the Sha after helping to overthrow the democratically elected government.

Was he enough of a nutjob to you?

If not, google him.

Oh, I get it, he was a pro American nutjob, meaning those weapons killed other people.

Those weapons were inherited by the revolution against him, but you didn`t think your puppet regime would last forever?

[orion]

[quote]JeffR wrote:
orion wrote:
derek wrote:
JeffR wrote:
However, if you continue to supply our enemies and run your little mouths without declaring hostilities openly, then you are cowardly curs.

JeffR

Did this fucker actually appear to say that he was “OK” or at least indifferent to the whole sniper rifle thing?

If so, I want to buy a ticket to his house real soon.

No, this fucker said that we have a weapons industry and that we sell them internationally.

As we are a neutral country, those companies are not allowed to sell into war zones.

We can hardly not sell to anyone though, the US might attack in the future, because that includes the whole planet.

Then, and I will repeat this as often as possible, the number one arms dealer world wide,countrywise, is the US of A.

If you do not get it into your heads how ridiculous it is to whine about 200 sniper rifles selling billions worth of weapons all around the globe each year, well then continue to live in la-la land.

Want to know where Iran got most of its fighter planes from?

Do the names F-14 Tomcats, F4-Phantom and F5 fighters ring any bells you hypocritical ignorant fuckers?

Hey, little guy,

One would think that the austrians would be sensitive to arming sociopaths (what with your recent history and all).

I suppose one could even hope that the austrians would, out of gratitude to the U.S. and their contributions to austria, AT LEAST THINK, about stopping weapons sales to regimes that the U.S. is fighting.

Guess not. Again, give the fact that you elect jorge haider and were willing participants in unbelievable horrors, I guess I expect too much.

Again, please show how many American made weapons are showing up in the shiite militia’s hands. Let me know. Oh, have we been selling weapons to iran since at least the time of a-thing?

I hope you get kidney stones at about 5 cm in size. I hope they are jagged and difficult to remove. Further, I hope the physicians take a long time in deciding to remove them.

JeffR

[/quote]

Who cares how many weapons you sold to the shi?ites. The other people killed with your weaponry were human too.

All the hundreds of thousands of them.

I guess they do not count, as they are not American, Gods chosen people.

[derek]

[quote]orion wrote:

Who cares how many weapons you sold to the shi?ites. The other people killed with your weaponry were human too.

All the hundreds of thousands of them.

I guess they do not count, as they are not American, Gods chosen people.
[/quote]

As you Left-wingers are so adept at pointing out, just because we may have done things that you disagree with in the past, that does NOT mean that what you do wrong is null-and-void or excusable (in ANY way).

You complain about the US. We respond that you live in a country known for siding with Nazi’s, SS, and Hitler. You come back with “just because we did something worse, doesn’t mean you guys are not guilty of whatever”.

Well guess what? You are selling rifles that are known to be used to kill the very people that would, at the drop of a hat, go to war to defend you. How the fuck is that OK?

Your logic sucks.

That’s kinda like Tom Cruise killing his own bodyguard. Say, come to think of it, you and Tom must be related.

[derek]

[quote]orion wrote:

I guess they do not count, as they are not American, Gods chosen people.
[/quote]

I love that. “God’s chosen people”. Did you not get the memo? Name a race, any race. Name a creed, color, gender, sexual preference, religion, country of origin. That’s what we are… All of them.

We share nothing in common save for the fact that we are American. And that’s what makes us 1,000 times the people you’ll ever be. And you cannot accuse me of being racist, homophobic or anything else so don’t even go down that road.

And know this, I speak of orion only. I speak not of all Austrians or any other country.

Please stop with the “chosen people” crap. That is a terribly short-sighted opinion.

[JeffR]

[quote]orion wrote:
JeffR wrote:

Hey runt,

Please show me where we are selling arms to iran since nutjob came to power.

That, of course, is the difference.

You f…ers know what you are doing.

I wish you’d sack up and declare war on the U.S.A.

That way, I’d be done paying taxes and I would have some free things courtesy of you.

JeffR

Well you armed the Sha after helping to overthrow the democratically elected government.

Was he enough of a nutjob to you?

If not, google him.

Oh, I get it, he was a pro American nutjob, meaning those weapons killed other people.

Those weapons were inherited by the revolution against him, but you didn`t think your puppet regime would last forever?[/quote]

Nice logic.

I live in 2007. You?

JeffR

[orion]

[quote]JeffR wrote:
orion wrote:
JeffR wrote:

Hey runt,

Please show me where we are selling arms to iran since nutjob came to power.

That, of course, is the difference.

You f…ers know what you are doing.

I wish you’d sack up and declare war on the U.S.A.

That way, I’d be done paying taxes and I would have some free things courtesy of you.

JeffR

Well you armed the Sha after helping to overthrow the democratically elected government.

Was he enough of a nutjob to you?

If not, google him.

Oh, I get it, he was a pro American nutjob, meaning those weapons killed other people.

Those weapons were inherited by the revolution against him, but you didn`t think your puppet regime would last forever?

Nice logic.

I live in 2007. You?

JeffR
[/quote]

But those weapons are still around.

Could it be, that not unlike Austrian weapons, American weapons do not simply disappear just because it would be politically convenient?

[orion]

[quote]derek wrote:

As you Left-wingers are so adept at pointing out, just because we may have done things that you disagree with in the past, that does NOT mean that what you do wrong is null-and-void or excusable (in ANY way).

You complain about the US. We respond that you live in a country known for siding with Nazi’s, SS, and Hitler. You come back with “just because we did something worse, doesn’t mean you guys are not guilty of whatever”.

Well guess what? You are selling rifles that are known to be used to kill the very people that would, at the drop of a hat, go to war to defend you. How the fuck is that OK?

[/quote]

And that was actually a solid point.

Now I am even more disapointed, because I know that you can when you choose to try.

[derek]

[quote]orion wrote:
derek wrote:

As you Left-wingers are so adept at pointing out, just because we may have done things that you disagree with in the past, that does NOT mean that what you do wrong is null-and-void or excusable (in ANY way).

You complain about the US. We respond that you live in a country known for siding with Nazi’s, SS, and Hitler. You come back with “just because we did something worse, doesn’t mean you guys are not guilty of whatever”.

Well guess what? You are selling rifles that are known to be used to kill the very people that would, at the drop of a hat, go to war to defend you. How the fuck is that OK?

And that was actually a solid point.

Now I am even more disapointed, because I know that you can when you choose to try.[/quote]

Thanks for that. I guess we’re all capable of reason once in a while huh?

[orion]

[quote]derek wrote:
orion wrote:
derek wrote:

As you Left-wingers are so adept at pointing out, just because we may have done things that you disagree with in the past, that does NOT mean that what you do wrong is null-and-void or excusable (in ANY way).

You complain about the US. We respond that you live in a country known for siding with Nazi’s, SS, and Hitler. You come back with “just because we did something worse, doesn’t mean you guys are not guilty of whatever”.

Well guess what? You are selling rifles that are known to be used to kill the very people that would, at the drop of a hat, go to war to defend you. How the fuck is that OK?

And that was actually a solid point.

Now I am even more disapointed, because I know that you can when you choose to try.

Thanks for that. I guess we’re all capable of reason once in a while huh?
[/quote]

2004/2005 800 Steyr Mannlicher Steyr Hs.50 were sold to the Iranian police who claimed that they would use them for the WOD. (The other unwinnable war).

Steyr Mannlicher cannot confirm that the rifles found in Iraq were of Austrian origin because the international licenses covering these weapons allready expired.