Running Two Cycles This Year

Pharma / TRT
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I’ll be running two cycles this year, first one is looking to bulk and then cut all of this good gains so it’ll look like this:

Bulk:6 days cycle one day off.

Week 1-5 Test cyp. 500mg doing 250mg two times per week.
Week 1-4 Nandrolone 400mg doing 200mg two times per week.
Week 1-2 Dianabol 30mgs ED.
Week 3-4 Dianabol 40mgs ED.
Week 5-6 Dianabol 50mgs ED.
Week 6-8 Test cyp. 1000mg doing 500mg two times per week.
Week 5-8 Nandrolone 600mg doing 300 mg two times per week.
Week 9-12 Test cyp. 500mg doing 250mg two times per week.
Week 9-12 Nandrolone 400mg doing 200mg two times per week.
Week 1-12 Arimidex 0.5mg/day.
Week 1-12 Bromocriptin 2.5mg ED.

*I’ve some doubts here:

-Are ancillaries alright like this or should I better use Letro?
-Add some proscar, or leave it at the end of second cycle as you will see.
-Should I use some multiesther test or cypionate is cool.
-Can I mix my deca with test so I can shoot them together?

Plus clomid PCt, then I’ll wait 8 weeks until the next one that is going to be like this:

Cut: 7 days cycle (no rest)

Week 1-5 Test prop 200mg EOD.
Week 6-10 Test prop 400mg EOD.
Week 1-10 Tri-tren 150mg ED.
Week 1-10 Masteron 200mg EOD.
Week 1-10 Oral Winny 100mg ED.
Week 1-10 Letro 0.3mg ED.
Week T3 25mcg ED.
Week 5-10 Proscar 1.25mg ED.

Finally HGC PCT plus nolvadex, plus aromasin and some vitamins.

Thanks for any comments…

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For the Adex: cut it down to .25mg ED, or I’d even say to EOD.

For the Cyp: Cyp is more than alright to run. However, I’m not sure how safe or necessary it is to run 500, then 1000, then 500. Why not just run 750mg/week for 10 weeks? That way your bp levels will stay steady and such.

In regards to mixing, yea you can mix substances together in one syringe.

I don’t know much about the compounds for your cutting, so I’ll leave that up to someone else.

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What’s your age, training experience and previous cycle experience?

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tri-tren = poopy

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[quote]tico1028 wrote:
For the Adex: cut it down to .25mg ED, or I’d even say to EOD.

For the Cyp: Cyp is more than alright to run. However, I’m not sure how safe or necessary it is to run 500, then 1000, then 500. Why not just run 750mg/week for 10 weeks? That way your bp levels will stay steady and such.

In regards to mixing, yea you can mix substances together in one syringe.

I don’t know much about the compounds for your cutting, so I’ll leave that up to someone else.[/quote]

That’s aright mate, maybe that way will be less toxic but dont you think if I do more test my gains will be better?

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[quote]Whoa! wrote:
What’s your age, training experience and previous cycle experience?[/quote]

Im 25, Ive like 3 maybe 4 years training and first I did some myoplex and creatine so my good supplementation began then my coach taught me about roids and I first went with some sotenon 250, and winny with nolvadex and then freaking acne began lol.

Then soste, winny, dianabol, EQ, some abombs, proviron. Protocol was all a mess cause my coach is not that good, I think but I went like 20 pounds up of good lean muscle. Im about 8% of body fat and I
I dindt do any PCT but I used HGC and nolvadex but just for one time and I know thats totally wrong but for a noob I think it wasnt that bad. Right now I finished a bottle of TBoms and that stuff works kindda good; I kept gains and with some animal cuts Im looking at all the six pack.

So this time i will do things my way and I want to do them well so PCT will be very strict and all the protocols will go like the book.

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You’re planning on over a gram of tren a week for 10 weeks. Have fun with that. Make sure you post your experience.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
You’re planning on over a gram of tren a week for 10 weeks. Have fun with that. Make sure you post your experience.
[/quote]

too much?

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[quote]Djamba wrote:
Cortes wrote:
You’re planning on over a gram of tren a week for 10 weeks. Have fun with that. Make sure you post your experience.

too much?[/quote]

waaaaaaaaay. Have you ever used tri-tren or are you just throwing it in there because the idea of it is really cool? because it is, at least i thought so. But going with a single ester will be much better for you, i believe bushy has a few words to say about tri-tren all in all its really not a good choice IMO but liek i said thats just word of mouth and preference ive never actually tried it. but your still using too much regardless

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[quote]Game_over wrote:
Djamba wrote:
Cortes wrote:
You’re planning on over a gram of tren a week for 10 weeks. Have fun with that. Make sure you post your experience.

too much?

waaaaaaaaay. Have you ever used tri-tren or are you just throwing it in there because the idea of it is really cool? because it is, at least i thought so. But going with a single ester will be much better for you, i believe bushy has a few words to say about tri-tren all in all its really not a good choice IMO but liek i said thats just word of mouth and preference ive never actually tried it. but your still using too much regardless[/quote]

Ive never tried it but having 500 ratio must be very strong, so using it 5 to 6 days only and on a 50 mg dose sounds nice. And leaving Masteron until the end you can have less stress. Im just throwing ideas thou, cutting all the masteron could help too, i think i must go really easy with this. Money will be greater too!!

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[quote]Djamba wrote:
tico1028 wrote:
For the Adex: cut it down to .25mg ED, or I’d even say to EOD.

For the Cyp: Cyp is more than alright to run. However, I’m not sure how safe or necessary it is to run 500, then 1000, then 500. Why not just run 750mg/week for 10 weeks? That way your bp levels will stay steady and such.

In regards to mixing, yea you can mix substances together in one syringe.

I don’t know much about the compounds for your cutting, so I’ll leave that up to someone else.

That’s aright mate, maybe that way will be less toxic but dont you think if I do more test my gains will be better?[/quote]

Since its a big cocktail 750 will be just fine, Thank you…

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Tritren = depression in averyone locally who has tried it.

I would like to run an applecorer through the testicles of whichever cynical tosspot concocted the product.

If you do run it, then you are right that ED injects are a priority.

150mg ED = 1050mg/wk. I doubt even some of the pros run that much. You certainly don’t.

I find that 300-400mg/wk (preferably of tren enan) is sufficient for my need and I’m more ‘experienced’ than you are.

Always run 1.5 to 2 times as much test as tren, to prevent sexual function issues.

Good luck
Bushy[/quote]

Very nice advice mate, so this one is going to be 6 days too so my number went like this:

Week 1-5 600mg/week Test prop
Week 1-10 300mg/week Tren
Week 6-10 1200mg/week Test prop

So im running that 2 times mark, right?

How about masteron, should i cut it and keep only the winny?

Thank you…

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Djamba wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Tritren = depression in averyone locally who has tried it.

I would like to run an applecorer through the testicles of whichever cynical tosspot concocted the product.

If you do run it, then you are right that ED injects are a priority.

150mg ED = 1050mg/wk. I doubt even some of the pros run that much. You certainly don’t.

I find that 300-400mg/wk (preferably of tren enan) is sufficient for my need and I’m more ‘experienced’ than you are.

Always run 1.5 to 2 times as much test as tren, to prevent sexual function issues.

Good luck
Bushy

Very nice advice mate, so this one is going to be 6 days too so my number went like this:

Week 1-5 600mg/week Test prop
Week 1-10 300mg/week Tren
Week 6-10 1200mg/week Test prop

So im running that 2 times mark, right?

How about masteron, should i cut it and keep only the winny?

Thank you…

Jeebuz matey, that’s a lot of prop from week 6-10. You sure you need all that?

I find that even with relatively low doses of tren, once you increase the test beyond a certain point, gyno becomes more and more likely.

Also, high doses of test (1000mg+) make me feel pretty shitty. You ever run this high a sdose before?

Regarding the masteron: I would keep it, because I like it, and do not like the painful elbow joints that I get from winstrol. The winstrol might offer some protection from the tren gyno, but then so might the masteron in regards to controlling E.

Look, I used to be firmly in the ‘The more the better’ camp, but I’ve come to realise it’s not about that.

I dunno how quality (or not) your diet and training might be, but no amount of jungle juice will compensate for deficits in these areas.

Have a serious talk with yourself before running 1200mg/wk test, 300mg/wk tren and whatever amount of orals. Do you need it? Truly?

Bushy[/quote]

Hhhmmm I only went up to 1/2 gram of sostenon a week on the last ones, nolvadex keep the E controlled but acne appered and its been a pain in the ass controll it also I expirienced a little hurt in the nuts but nothing to worry about so until tren is that strong Ill keep the 600mg/week
for the whole cycle. So that way will be nicer.

My diet its very good i think, following the 2 - 2 1/2 hrs meal and going very nice on the ammont of proteins all week, only on saturdays I raise the ammount of carbs so I’ve something to burn the whole week, Its really working very well this way; Ive havent seen my nutricion doctor but I cant bet on my body fat % it isnt beyond 10% and trainning was very strict during cycle all this carfully review by trainers and stuff.

So no I dont need that much of test thou, maybe later lol…

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Listen to what Bushy says. You can use less than half what you listed and still grow like a weed… without as much side effects.

Where did you get the idea to use so much stuff anyway?

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[quote]SwD wrote:
Listen to what Bushy says. You can use less than half what you listed and still grow like a weed… without as much side effects.

Where did you get the idea to use so much stuff anyway?[/quote]

If I understood well he said I must use 1.5 or 2 times more test than tren, so if im ok with the 300mg/week of tren; 600mg/week of test will be it. I repet that I need help and I just trhowing the whole idea to get the perfect cycles…

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Djamba wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Djamba wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Tritren = depression in averyone locally who has tried it.

I would like to run an applecorer through the testicles of whichever cynical tosspot concocted the product.

If you do run it, then you are right that ED injects are a priority.

150mg ED = 1050mg/wk. I doubt even some of the pros run that much. You certainly don’t.

I find that 300-400mg/wk (preferably of tren enan) is sufficient for my need and I’m more ‘experienced’ than you are.

Always run 1.5 to 2 times as much test as tren, to prevent sexual function issues.

Good luck
Bushy

Very nice advice mate, so this one is going to be 6 days too so my number went like this:

Week 1-5 600mg/week Test prop
Week 1-10 300mg/week Tren
Week 6-10 1200mg/week Test prop

So im running that 2 times mark, right?

How about masteron, should i cut it and keep only the winny?

Thank you…

Jeebuz matey, that’s a lot of prop from week 6-10. You sure you need all that?

I find that even with relatively low doses of tren, once you increase the test beyond a certain point, gyno becomes more and more likely.

Also, high doses of test (1000mg+) make me feel pretty shitty. You ever run this high a sdose before?

Regarding the masteron: I would keep it, because I like it, and do not like the painful elbow joints that I get from winstrol. The winstrol might offer some protection from the tren gyno, but then so might the masteron in regards to controlling E.

Look, I used to be firmly in the ‘The more the better’ camp, but I’ve come to realise it’s not about that.

I dunno how quality (or not) your diet and training might be, but no amount of jungle juice will compensate for deficits in these areas.

Have a serious talk with yourself before running 1200mg/wk test, 300mg/wk tren and whatever amount of orals. Do you need it? Truly?

Bushy

Hhhmmm I only went up to 1/2 gram of sostenon a week on the last ones, nolvadex keep the E controlled but acne appered and its been a pain in the ass controll it also I expirienced a little hurt in the nuts but nothing to worry about so until tren is that strong Ill keep the 600mg/week
for the whole cycle. So that way will be nicer.

My diet its very good i think, following the 2 - 2 1/2 hrs meal and going very nice on the ammont of proteins all week, only on saturdays I raise the ammount of carbs so I’ve something to burn the whole week, Its really working very well this way; Ive havent seen my nutricion doctor but I cant bet on my body fat % it isnt beyond 10% and trainning was very strict during cycle all this carfully review by trainers and stuff.

So no I dont need that much of test thou, maybe later lol…

OK, glad to hear it.

It sounds as though you might be needing to increase your calories if you want to grow at an accelerated rate from here on.

More complex carbs, an more quality fat, but try to avoid consuming carbs and fat together.

Bushy[/quote]

Ill follow that advice very well, so rice and pasta will do the job right?
Besides the fat I ate is the good one, olive and the fish stuff trying to avoid pork and all that bad ones!!!

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[quote]Djamba wrote:
If I understood well he said I must use 1.5 or 2 times more test than tren, so if im ok with the 300mg/week of tren; 600mg/week of test will be it. I repet that I need help and I just trhowing the whole idea to get the perfect cycles…[/quote]

600Test prop/300tren should be a good cycle, actually something I am thinking about doing here soon. You don’t need all of those megadoses. Like Bushy said, your diet (mainly) and training will determine your results. Beyond a certain dosage, you start experiencing diminishing returns with respect to gains, while sides continue to increase. I’m sure you don’t want that. Also, with prop, if you are doing really well and want to bump it up a little bit during your cycle you could always do that and see how you fare.

I’d also like to hear of your experience with tri-tren. It is definitely not my first choice, but a guy near me wants to sell me some 10mg 150mg/ml vials for just under 100 bucks apiece. I’m thinking about taking him up on the offer. It’s almost too cheap to pass up. I would prefer Ace or Hex, but I prefer paying half price even more.