[quote]pushharder wrote:
I like powerful rifles, horses, coffee, whiskey and women.
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Well now you officially have 25 different combinations of:
“I like my _______ like I like my _______”
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Barnes bullets are fabulous.[/quote]
Quick question, for you or Cap, I keep hearing people sing the praises of Barnes. Have you shot them up beside one of the Nostler Ballistic tips (Nostler, Winchester Silver, or Federal Prem) and if so did you notice that much of a difference??[/quote]
Barnes makes a good product. I have shot and reloaded barnes, sierra game kings, Nosler Ballistic tips, Remington core lockt, and hornady SST’s. Full disclaimer I am no expert. There are some much more knowledgeable people on this forum than I in regards to ballistics.
I think where barnes really really shines is in big game penetration. A white-tailed deer is relatively easy to kill with a centerfire rifle. When you start talking about elk, moose, bear, and african species, it’s time to get serious. They are also non-toxic.
Check out some of the reviews on midway.
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Yeah, you saying that, I have recently pondered beginning to shy away from the pricier bullets and go with something like a corelokt to see how I like it. As you said, deer aren’t really the toughest animals.[/quote]
I’m not really a fan of corelokt factory ammo. However, certain brands and loads work better in certain rifles. I generally go for expansion in white-tailed deer in the south. Good blood trails to follow through thick brush…or just head shoot them 
Shot placement is really the key factor.
In Maine we mostly hunt moose off the warm hood of our trucks at a distance of maybe 50 yards. Does this make any difference when considering caliber size for large game?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
In Maine we mostly hunt moose off the warm hood of our trucks at a distance of maybe 50 yards. Does this make any difference when considering caliber size for large game?[/quote]
You would still want to hammer the shit out of them (literally and figuratively). Knock the sumbitch down right where he stands – for your sake and his. A big, heavy bullet is going to do this much better.
A .375 H & H would do the job just fine. Shucks, at 50 yards an ol’ fashioned .45/70 is going to flatten him. A 220 gr. .30.06 will too. You should be able to get an open sight rifle in any of those calibers.[/quote]
Holy crap, 220gr? won’t that take my shoulder off too? jeezum.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
In Maine we mostly hunt moose off the warm hood of our trucks at a distance of maybe 50 yards. Does this make any difference when considering caliber size for large game?[/quote]
You would still want to hammer the shit out of them (literally and figuratively). Knock the sumbitch down right where he stands – for your sake and his. A big, heavy bullet is going to do this much better.
A .375 H & H would do the job just fine. Shucks, at 50 yards an ol’ fashioned .45/70 is going to flatten him. A 220 gr. .30.06 will too. You should be able to get an open sight rifle in any of those calibers.[/quote]
Holy crap, 220gr? won’t that take my shoulder off too? jeezum.[/quote]
I thought you liked pain? lol
The 180 grain barnes bullets I recommended will kill a moose. However, with Push’s recommendation the moose won’t travel as far(in most cases). A closer shot means more energy from the projectile into the animal. It also means more chance for the animal to detect you.
You can set up your rifle so you have open sights below the scope. Best of both worlds imo.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I will say though that the .308 seems a little light for a moose but I have never hunted moose so take that for what its worth. I wouldn’t say you really need a magnum like the .300 or 7mm but (and I am biased) the .30/06 is the single best all around caliber in existence and it has the most readily available ammo of any caliber. [/quote]
FWIW, I’ve hunted exclusively with magnums for almost 30 years. Everything I hit with good shot placement dies. And dies close by. I did lose one cow elk a few years ago and it ate me up.
Most of my animals have been taken right before sunset. I like the fact that I end up gutting them in close proximity to where I pulled the trigger. I like crushing them with the hammer of Thor (hydrostatic shock FTW!) and having them die quickly and humanely and without multiple follow up shots to keep them down and thereby spoiling meat.
That’s just my take on things and not meant to be a counterpoint to your post.
I like powerful rifles, horses, coffee, whiskey and women.
(Beth is a powerful woman…she is a magnum)[/quote]
I do appreciate a woman that knows how to handle a big load…firearms of course
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
In Maine we mostly hunt moose off the warm hood of our trucks at a distance of maybe 50 yards. Does this make any difference when considering caliber size for large game?[/quote]
You would still want to hammer the shit out of them (literally and figuratively). Knock the sumbitch down right where he stands – for your sake and his. A big, heavy bullet is going to do this much better.
A .375 H & H would do the job just fine. Shucks, at 50 yards an ol’ fashioned .45/70 is going to flatten him. A 220 gr. .30.06 will too. You should be able to get an open sight rifle in any of those calibers.[/quote]
Holy crap, 220gr? won’t that take my shoulder off too? jeezum.[/quote]
I thought you liked pain? lol
The 180 grain barnes bullets I recommended will kill a moose. However, with Push’s recommendation the moose won’t travel as far(in most cases). A closer shot means more energy from the projectile into the animal. It also means more chance for the animal to detect you.
You can set up your rifle so you have open sights below the scope. Best of both worlds imo. [/quote]
Yeah, you can almost drive up to them and take the shot. If you get within 50 ft they trot away. They just kinda stand there and look at you. There’s more danger of them charging than running away. Nothing like whitetail. I thought 180gr would be adequate…
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
In Maine we mostly hunt moose off the warm hood of our trucks at a distance of maybe 50 yards. Does this make any difference when considering caliber size for large game?[/quote]
You would still want to hammer the shit out of them (literally and figuratively). Knock the sumbitch down right where he stands – for your sake and his. A big, heavy bullet is going to do this much better.
A .375 H & H would do the job just fine. Shucks, at 50 yards an ol’ fashioned .45/70 is going to flatten him. A 220 gr. .30.06 will too. You should be able to get an open sight rifle in any of those calibers.[/quote]
Holy crap, 220gr? won’t that take my shoulder off too? jeezum.[/quote]
I thought you liked pain? lol
The 180 grain barnes bullets I recommended will kill a moose. However, with Push’s recommendation the moose won’t travel as far(in most cases). A closer shot means more energy from the projectile into the animal. It also means more chance for the animal to detect you.
You can set up your rifle so you have open sights below the scope. Best of both worlds imo. [/quote]
Yeah, you can almost drive up to them and take the shot. If you get within 50 ft they trot away. They just kinda stand there and look at you. There’s more danger of them charging than running away. Nothing like whitetail. I thought 180gr would be adequate…[/quote]
Do you plan to butcher the moose yourself or have a processor do it?
Do you know any moose hunters who call the moose in? I think that would be fun.
I like calling, ducks, geese, deer, elk, turkeys etc. The interaction with the animal makes for a memorable hunt. Not saying road shooting them is wrong btw . I think it is the norm in maine.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
In Maine we mostly hunt moose off the warm hood of our trucks at a distance of maybe 50 yards. Does this make any difference when considering caliber size for large game?[/quote]
You would still want to hammer the shit out of them (literally and figuratively). Knock the sumbitch down right where he stands – for your sake and his. A big, heavy bullet is going to do this much better.
A .375 H & H would do the job just fine. Shucks, at 50 yards an ol’ fashioned .45/70 is going to flatten him. A 220 gr. .30.06 will too. You should be able to get an open sight rifle in any of those calibers.[/quote]
Holy crap, 220gr? won’t that take my shoulder off too? jeezum.[/quote]
I thought you liked pain? lol
The 180 grain barnes bullets I recommended will kill a moose. However, with Push’s recommendation the moose won’t travel as far(in most cases). A closer shot means more energy from the projectile into the animal. It also means more chance for the animal to detect you.
You can set up your rifle so you have open sights below the scope. Best of both worlds imo. [/quote]
Yeah, you can almost drive up to them and take the shot. If you get within 50 ft they trot away. They just kinda stand there and look at you. There’s more danger of them charging than running away. Nothing like whitetail. I thought 180gr would be adequate…[/quote]
Do you plan to butcher the moose yourself or have a processor do it?
Do you know any moose hunters who call the moose in? I think that would be fun.
I like calling, ducks, geese, deer, elk, turkeys etc. The interaction with the animal makes for a memorable hunt. Not saying road shooting them is wrong btw . I think it is the norm in maine.
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I’m training with a guide service so I’ll probably butcher it myself for the experience/practice. And yeah, heater hunting is the norm in Maine. For moose at least. Deer is alot trickier, still hunting doesn’t work too well but calling em in from a stand works pretty well. Calling in Coyote on night hunts is pretty exciting.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
In Maine we mostly hunt moose off the warm hood of our trucks at a distance of maybe 50 yards. Does this make any difference when considering caliber size for large game?[/quote]
You would still want to hammer the shit out of them (literally and figuratively). Knock the sumbitch down right where he stands – for your sake and his. A big, heavy bullet is going to do this much better.
A .375 H & H would do the job just fine. Shucks, at 50 yards an ol’ fashioned .45/70 is going to flatten him. A 220 gr. .30.06 will too. You should be able to get an open sight rifle in any of those calibers.[/quote]
Holy crap, 220gr? won’t that take my shoulder off too? jeezum.[/quote]
I thought you liked pain? lol
The 180 grain barnes bullets I recommended will kill a moose. However, with Push’s recommendation the moose won’t travel as far(in most cases). A closer shot means more energy from the projectile into the animal. It also means more chance for the animal to detect you.
You can set up your rifle so you have open sights below the scope. Best of both worlds imo. [/quote]
Yeah, you can almost drive up to them and take the shot. If you get within 50 ft they trot away. They just kinda stand there and look at you. There’s more danger of them charging than running away. Nothing like whitetail. I thought 180gr would be adequate…[/quote]
Do you plan to butcher the moose yourself or have a processor do it?
Do you know any moose hunters who call the moose in? I think that would be fun.
I like calling, ducks, geese, deer, elk, turkeys etc. The interaction with the animal makes for a memorable hunt. Not saying road shooting them is wrong btw . I think it is the norm in maine.
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I’m training with a guide service so I’ll probably butcher it myself for the experience/practice. And yeah, heater hunting is the norm in Maine. For moose at least. Deer is alot trickier, still hunting doesn’t work too well but calling em in from a stand works pretty well. Calling in Coyote on night hunts is pretty exciting. [/quote]
nice!
Inside 50 yards, I actually like the idea of a lever or single shot .45/70 like the H&R buffalo classic. That big 300 to 400 grain bullet will pack a wallop at those distances.
The thing I don’t like about the Ruger Scout is the 16" barrel. All of the propellant will not be burnt before the bullet leaves the barrel, meaning greater muzzle flash and diminished performance of the cartridge (probably marginal, but still). I know it comes with a flash suppressor. I like the concept, but if it had an 18 1/2" barrel I would like it better.
I don’t own one, maybe those that do could respond.