[quote]deanosumo wrote:
bg100 wrote:
deanosumo wrote:
Another prediction: All Blacks to defeat the Lions 3-0.
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As long as the Aussies win the Bledisloe Cup I’m not too worried about other results…
I don’t think the Lions will be the same force that they were in Australia a few years ago, back then the majority of them were part of a very strong English team which doesn’t exist anymore, although the Welsh have improved a lot. Your prediction will probably become true as a result.
On what bg100 wrote:
Agree with everything you say. The Waratahs tactics were wrong. They kicked all their ball away. Aparently they were backing their lineout to steal some of the Crusader’s ball but the Crusaders actually won the lineouts on Saturday. Justin Harrison had a very quiet game.
Matt Rogers and Hewat should have switched positions. I still think Rogers is the ideal person for the Wallabies to have on the bench this year. Latham should be the fullback.
The Crusader’s finishing was poor. Rico Gear could have lost an AB spot with that carelessness.
Who do you play for? Which code?
[quote]deanosumo wrote:
On what bg100 wrote:
Agree with everything you say. The Waratahs tactics were wrong. They kicked all their ball away. Aparently they were backing their lineout to steal some of the Crusader’s ball but the Crusaders actually won the lineouts on Saturday. Justin Harrison had a very quiet game.
Matt Rogers and Hewat should have switched positions. I still think Rogers is the ideal person for the Wallabies to have on the bench this year. Latham should be the fullback.
The Crusader’s finishing was poor. Rico Gear could have lost an AB spot with that carelessness.
Who do you play for? Which code?[/quote]
I don’t think he was expecting Morgan Turinui to keep chasing and knock the ball out of his hands!
The 'tahs game plan was to kick, they just didn’t do it well. They were rightly confident in their lineout, it has been the best for the past two seasons. They just needed to put the ball into touch well into the Crusader’s territory or at the very least kick deep enough to turn the wingers/fullback around to pick up the ball, allowing the chasers to pressure them into kicking into touch, giving us a lineout in attacking position. They all too often kicked straight to them, giving them a counter-attack opportunity, very bad idea with the skill and speed of the Crusader’s backline.
Even those chip kicks should have been long,low punches down the sideline into the Crusader’s territory. That way they could have turned the defenders around and bundled them into touch when they picked up the ball.
I was only ever able to play one season of rugby in 96 for a suburban rugby club in Sydney when I was 20 y.o. Unfortunately I damaged cartilage in my right knee at the end of the season, actually by doing something else but the surgeon said that rugby was the main contributor to weakening the knee (I had a previous knee operation 4 years earlier which meant I actually should never have played rugby in the first place!).
It is this injury which means I have to be really careful with how much I do with leg exercises, my squat and deadlift numbers have climbed very slowly since starting them up again last July. In the years in between I’ve just done upper body stuff and mostly dropped strength training altogether because it was frustrating not being able to do legs. I decided to give legs a go again and haven’t looked back since!
So one year was the sum total of my football career. It was a good one though as I won the Best & Fairest award for my team. I played mostly as flanker or No.8.
I am an avid rugby fan, but I like all other footy codes such as league and Aussie rules.
How about yourself, do you play over there in Japan? Which position?
I think the Crusaders deserved to win the super 12 final. they are the best provincial team in the world. I thought the Waratah’s gave a good account of themselves but were all going to be up against it.
bg100 - A number 8 who was forced into retirement with a knee injury. Sounds familiar.
I played in the bush for a number of years and one year of suburban football in Brisbane before two years ago I ruptured my ACL and MCL and dislocated the patella. I had a recon and started pre season this year in the hope of playing but hurt the knee again in February so will need a redo in the future. Knees are a terribly designed joint!
Still I had a good run without injury and can thank rugby for providing me with a heap of good mates and fun times. I am actually getting into coaching now which I quite enjoy.
[quote]Eightman wrote:
I think the Crusaders deserved to win the super 12 final. they are the best provincial team in the world. I thought the Waratah’s gave a good account of themselves but were all going to be up against it.
bg100 - A number 8 who was forced into retirement with a knee injury. Sounds familiar.
I played in the bush for a number of years and one year of suburban football in Brisbane before two years ago I ruptured my ACL and MCL and dislocated the patella. I had a recon and started pre season this year in the hope of playing but hurt the knee again in February so will need a redo in the future. Knees are a terribly designed joint!
Still I had a good run without injury and can thank rugby for providing me with a heap of good mates and fun times. I am actually getting into coaching now which I quite enjoy.
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I reckon I would enjoy coaching as well, guess who is going to stick his hand up to coach his kid’s junior rugby team, if first of all I have kids, secondly if it is a boy (however not that necessary with the increase in girl’s rugby) and thirdly if they want to play rugby in the first place, but I digress…
I feel your pain with the knee injury, they are the worst thing to recover from. My initial injury was ironically caused by playing footy with a few friends at a local park. I was tackled, my knee hit the ground and twisted. This broke a piece of bone from the bottom of the femur right inside the knee joint. I needed a bone graft, screws, full leg brace etc and 8 months out of any sport involving use of legs. That is how I got into the gym by doing just upper body exercises.
The second injury occurred in the same area as the first injury, except in this case I ripped the articular cartilage off the bone. This is different to the usual cartilage injuries involving the meniscus where you see athletes running around two weeks after their operations. Unfortunately it doesn’t grow back fully due to low blood supply to the area, so I have to be careful about what I do. I’m most at risk if I did anything where there was a lot of propping on a leg and changing direction. This eliminates every football code and a heap of other team sports.
[quote]bg100 wrote:
deanosumo wrote:
bg100 wrote:
deanosumo wrote:
Another prediction: All Blacks to defeat the Lions 3-0.
As long as the Aussies win the Bledisloe Cup I’m not too worried about other results…
Fellas, sorry but you wallabies dont have a shit show of winning back the Bledisloe!
I played at school 1st XV level in NZ, I live in Brissy now, I am the Strength Coach for the 1st XV at the school I work for, also coach an under 15 team at the school.
Crusaders were far too good for all comers this year, its nice when you can have a couple of All Blacks on the bench isnt it?
This is why I beleive the new Western Force team will struggle, not enough depth in Australian Rugby.
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[quote]bg100 wrote:
deanosumo wrote:
On what bg100 wrote:
Agree with everything you say. The Waratahs tactics were wrong. They kicked all their ball away. Aparently they were backing their lineout to steal some of the Crusader’s ball but the Crusaders actually won the lineouts on Saturday. Justin Harrison had a very quiet game.
Matt Rogers and Hewat should have switched positions. I still think Rogers is the ideal person for the Wallabies to have on the bench this year. Latham should be the fullback.
The Crusader’s finishing was poor. Rico Gear could have lost an AB spot with that carelessness.
Who do you play for? Which code?
I don’t think he was expecting Morgan Turinui to keep chasing and knock the ball out of his hands!
The 'tahs game plan was to kick, they just didn’t do it well. They were rightly confident in their lineout, it has been the best for the past two seasons. They just needed to put the ball into touch well into the Crusader’s territory or at the very least kick deep enough to turn the wingers/fullback around to pick up the ball, allowing the chasers to pressure them into kicking into touch, giving us a lineout in attacking position. They all too often kicked straight to them, giving them a counter-attack opportunity, very bad idea with the skill and speed of the Crusader’s backline.
Even those chip kicks should have been long,low punches down the sideline into the Crusader’s territory. That way they could have turned the defenders around and bundled them into touch when they picked up the ball.
I was only ever able to play one season of rugby in 96 for a suburban rugby club in Sydney when I was 20 y.o. Unfortunately I damaged cartilage in my right knee at the end of the season, actually by doing something else but the surgeon said that rugby was the main contributor to weakening the knee (I had a previous knee operation 4 years earlier which meant I actually should never have played rugby in the first place!).
It is this injury which means I have to be really careful with how much I do with leg exercises, my squat and deadlift numbers have climbed very slowly since starting them up again last July. In the years in between I’ve just done upper body stuff and mostly dropped strength training altogether because it was frustrating not being able to do legs. I decided to give legs a go again and haven’t looked back since!
So one year was the sum total of my football career. It was a good one though as I won the Best & Fairest award for my team. I played mostly as flanker or No.8.
I am an avid rugby fan, but I like all other footy codes such as league and Aussie rules.
How about yourself, do you play over there in Japan? Which position?[/quote]
I play no8 or flanker too. I’m still playing, but at 34 my time is coming to an end. I also herniated two discs last year deadlifting and haven’t played in 6 months. I played touch today and aren’t too sore, so hope to start playing again next month.
I make my living coaching over here. I am hardly elite but I am priveleged.
I like league also but I don’t really understand Aussie Rules. I also can’t fathom the world’s preoccupation with soccer. Running into people is too much fun!
[quote]deanosumo wrote:
I play no8 or flanker too. I’m still playing, but at 34 my time is coming to an end. I also herniated two discs last year deadlifting and haven’t played in 6 months. I played touch today and aren’t too sore, so hope to start playing again next month.
I make my living coaching over here. I am hardly elite but I am priveleged.
I like league also but I don’t really understand Aussie Rules. I also can’t fathom the world’s preoccupation with soccer. Running into people is too much fun![/quote]
No 8 is the best position on the rugby pitch. I loved it there where you can get out quick on set peices and play a bit looser at times. Good to see there are a few backrowers here.
I hear what you are saying about the contact. It is a great feeling pulling a big shot off on someone or similarly bouncing straight up after getting rocked yourself.
You are doing well still running around. My body definately doesn’t miss the next day after a game.
What level of coaching do you do?
[quote]deanosumo wrote:
I play no8 or flanker too. I’m still playing, but at 34 my time is coming to an end. I also herniated two discs last year deadlifting and haven’t played in 6 months. I played touch today and aren’t too sore, so hope to start playing again next month.
I make my living coaching over here. I am hardly elite but I am priveleged.
I like league also but I don’t really understand Aussie Rules. I also can’t fathom the world’s preoccupation with soccer. Running into people is too much fun!
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Hey, at least you got to play until 34, I feel really bummed to have stopped at 20!
Agreed that tackling people is fun. I still remember in one game hovering around the side of a ruck that had formed when the opposition’s rather small halfback decided to run with the ball straight towards me. One backslam by yours truly into the cricket pitch area (we were in the centre of the oval) a few seconds later and he was regretting he had run my way, good times indeed…
I can really appreciate the athleticism associated with Aussie Rules, as well as the endurance required by the midfielders. It is also a game that requires a lot more vision as to what is going to happen maybe 20 seconds later on up the field, something that you can really only see when you watch a game live rather than on television. That way you can see the player movement away from the ball, TV doesn’t capture that.
As for using athletecism, strength and endurance in the one game i don’t think you can beat rugby league. They do say it is the toughest game to play and after seeing the State of Origin series each year you find it hard to disagree with this.
BTW, backrowers in rugby rule! I can’t believe Chris Latham got Australia’s Super 12 player of the year award last night and Phil Waugh didn’t. Waugh has been a machine all season, he never stops trying.