[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Hillary would make short work of Rudy in a head-to-head debate.
You got that one right.
I doubt that very much. Rudy was a U.S. attorney who had to make arguments to skeptical judges for years. Hillary is smart and would be very prepared, but Rudy is also smart, would also be prepared, and has had more practice.[/quote]
I think you’re overestimating the importance of political debates to the American public.
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Hillary would make short work of Rudy in a head-to-head debate.
Mick28 wrote:
You got that one right.
BostonBarrister wrote:
I doubt that very much. Rudy was a U.S. attorney who had to make arguments to skeptical judges for years. Hillary is smart and would be very prepared, but Rudy is also smart, would also be prepared, and has had more practice.
Magnate wrote:
I think you’re overestimating the importance of political debates to the American public. [/quote]
I didn’t say it would swing the election; I said I doubted Hillary would eat Rudy’s lunch in a debate. The only way it would swing the election would be if he got off some good zingers that the media actually picked up and publicized in very short clips on TV (or that were inserted in commercials), or if the same things happened with some major flub by Hillary.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
pookie wrote:
A lot less people would die in natural disasters if so many of the National Guard wasn’t stuck in Iraq.
This particular piece of bullshit was already proven to be false[/quote]
And you bought that?
The problem with many of you guys is that no matter how badly your elected officials fuck up, you’re desperate to buy any bullshit excuse offered. You make it way too easy. Any little report from some supposed “expert” (when it’s not simply a loudmouthed pundit) and you fold and agree.
It’s not complicated: When a disaster strikes and help is needed, having more people available will make more help available faster to more victims.
If you need to evacuate 10,000 people, you’ll do it faster with 100 trucks than with 10. Extend the principle.
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Just what we need: more national guard troops violating the Constitution in New Orleans.[/quote]
Are you serious?
Are you telling me that if some disaster struck and found your family and yourself up shit creek without a paddle, you’d be pissed to see the National Guard show up to lean a helping hand?
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Hillary would make short work of Rudy in a head-to-head debate.
Mick28 wrote:
You got that one right.
BostonBarrister wrote:
I doubt that very much. Rudy was a U.S. attorney who had to make arguments to skeptical judges for years. Hillary is smart and would be very prepared, but Rudy is also smart, would also be prepared, and has had more practice.
Magnate wrote:
I think you’re overestimating the importance of political debates to the American public.
I didn’t say it would swing the election; I said I doubted Hillary would eat Rudy’s lunch in a debate. The only way it would swing the election would be if he got off some good zingers that the media actually picked up and publicized in very short clips on TV (or that were inserted in commercials), or if the same things happened with some major flub by Hillary.[/quote]
Rudy can’t win debates now against fairly unintelligent men, coming again and again to 9/11, not grasping basic issues (taxes) etc… and a track record that won’t seem all to different me thinks?
[quote]100meters wrote:
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Rudy can’t win debates now against fairly unintelligent men, coming again and again to 9/11, not grasping basic issues (taxes) etc… and a track record that won’t seem all to different me thinks?
OH GAWD how did I ever vote for Rudy?
oh, Dinkins.
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The difference now is that he’s trying to not be portrayed as socially liberal and avoiding those issues. In a debate with Hillary, he won’t face the same problems, as his socially liberal positions are to the right of her socially liberal positions. He can pull the Bill Clinton triangulation.
[quote]100meters wrote:
Rudy can’t win debates now against fairly unintelligent men, coming again and again to 9/11, not grasping basic issues (taxes) etc… and a track record that won’t seem all to different me thinks?[/quote]
If he gets the nomination, he’ll probably get a better team of speech writers and enough spin doctors to train him on proper public behavior.
Bush was elected twice, almost legitimately. Anything is possible.
[quote]pookie wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Just what we need: more national guard troops violating the Constitution in New Orleans.
Are you serious?
Are you telling me that if some disaster struck and found your family and yourself up shit creek without a paddle, you’d be pissed to see the National Guard show up to lean a helping hand?
[quote]pookie wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Just what we need: more national guard troops violating the Constitution in New Orleans.
Are you serious?
Are you telling me that if some disaster struck and found your family and yourself up shit creek without a paddle, you’d be pissed to see the National Guard show up to lean a helping hand?
[/quote]
Except much of the NG were not rescuing people. They were harassing law abiding citizens, confiscating homeowners guns and doing other shit they had no business doing.
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
pookie wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Just what we need: more national guard troops violating the Constitution in New Orleans.
Are you serious?
Are you telling me that if some disaster struck and found your family and yourself up shit creek without a paddle, you’d be pissed to see the National Guard show up to lean a helping hand?
Trust me, I always have a paddle.
mike[/quote]
Whoever gave them those orders should be jailed. Absolutely criminal.
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
pookie wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Just what we need: more national guard troops violating the Constitution in New Orleans.
Are you serious?
Are you telling me that if some disaster struck and found your family and yourself up shit creek without a paddle, you’d be pissed to see the National Guard show up to lean a helping hand?
Trust me, I always have a paddle.
mike[/quote]
But wait, are you even allowed to have one?
Do you have a paddle license and is it registered? What if the National Guard does not bring a paddle but wants yours?
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
orion wrote:
Fitnessdiva wrote:
What’s messed up in canada?
It is not the USA.
You have to understand that the US is the bestest country in the world which is why everybody wants to live there and which automatically reduces every other country to second best.
At least that is his opinion, after his extensive travels.
Actually, I have traveled a great deal. And the USA is the greatest country in the world.
You’re continued jealous rants are quite telling. By now any credibility that you did have, which wasn’t much, has evaporated.
Keep posting Whorion.[/quote]
Jealous of what?
I try so hard to be jealous and yet I fail. Please point me in the right direction.
[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
100meters wrote:
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Rudy can’t win debates now against fairly unintelligent men, coming again and again to 9/11, not grasping basic issues (taxes) etc… and a track record that won’t seem all to different me thinks?
OH GAWD how did I ever vote for Rudy?
oh, Dinkins.
The difference now is that he’s trying to not be portrayed as socially liberal and avoiding those issues. In a debate with Hillary, he won’t face the same problems, as his socially liberal positions are to the right of her socially liberal positions. He can pull the Bill Clinton triangulation.[/quote]
Ok, maybe you’re right, to me it seems Rudy doesn’t have the depth to answer a broad range of questions without coming back to 9/11 over and over again…example 9/11 brought him back to the 2nd amendment?