Ron Paul

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
ElbowStrike wrote:
People just wouldn’t magically revert back to 1950’s utopian society.

Go ask a black man or a communist about how much “utopian” it was.

They sure wouldn’t like it under Paul.

How so? If he follows the constitution as claims he will, what’s there not to like?

I am not sure what people mean by “follow the constitution” because it gives us a lot of leeway but he will gut most federal programs and laws. He will allow the states to do whatever the hell they want. The federal government has been key in overcoming so much discrimination. Under Paul that would regress.[/quote]

Ok I edited this cus I felt bad about a childish internet outburst on my part. But please Zap, explain this post to me. please. I’m begging.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
And if the Japs had take the opportunity to attack the Soviet Union from the East…

Things could have been different. [/quote]

The Japs would not dare after this:

"In 1938 Zhukov was directed to command the First Soviet Mongolian Army Group, and saw action against Japan’s Kwantung Army on the border between Mongolia and the Japanese controlled state of Manchukuo in an undeclared war that lasted from 1938 to 1939. What began as a routine border skirmish�??the Japanese testing the resolve of the Soviets to defend their territory�??rapidly escalated into a full-scale war, the Japanese pushing forward with 80,000 troops, 180 tanks and 450 aircraft.

This led to the decisive Battle of Khalkhin Gol. Zhukov requested major reinforcements and on August 15, 1939 he ordered what seemed at first to be a conventional frontal attack. However, he had held back two tank brigades, which in a daring and successful manoeuver he ordered to advance around both flanks of the battle. Supported by motorized artillery and infantry, the two mobile battle groups encircled the 6th Japanese army and captured their vulnerable supply areas. Within a few days the Japanese troops were defeated.

For this operation Zhukov was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union."

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

The Japs would not dare after this:

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The implicit moral of the story being, no doubt, “don’t fuck with the Mongols.”

[quote]Fullback33 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
ElbowStrike wrote:
People just wouldn’t magically revert back to 1950’s utopian society.

Go ask a black man or a communist about how much “utopian” it was.

They sure wouldn’t like it under Paul.

How so? If he follows the constitution as claims he will, what’s there not to like?

I am not sure what people mean by “follow the constitution” because it gives us a lot of leeway but he will gut most federal programs and laws. He will allow the states to do whatever the hell they want. The federal government has been key in overcoming so much discrimination. Under Paul that would regress.

Ok I edited this cus I felt bad about a childish internet outburst on my part. But please Zap, explain this post to me. please. I’m begging.
[/quote]

Are you unaware of the federal governments role in the civil rights movement?

I think my post was pretty self explanatory. If Paul was in charge that would all stop.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Fullback33 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
ElbowStrike wrote:
People just wouldn’t magically revert back to 1950’s utopian society.

Go ask a black man or a communist about how much “utopian” it was.

They sure wouldn’t like it under Paul.

How so? If he follows the constitution as claims he will, what’s there not to like?

I am not sure what people mean by “follow the constitution” because it gives us a lot of leeway but he will gut most federal programs and laws. He will allow the states to do whatever the hell they want. The federal government has been key in overcoming so much discrimination. Under Paul that would regress.

Ok I edited this cus I felt bad about a childish internet outburst on my part. But please Zap, explain this post to me. please. I’m begging.

Are you unaware of the federal governments role in the civil rights movement?

I think my post was pretty self explanatory. If Paul was in charge that would all stop.[/quote]

So what?

http://vodwins.stanford.edu/hoover/Libert200.asx

yeah i agree wih orion.

and if your post was self explanatory i would have understood it. tell me the government programs that ron paul would remove that would cause the reversal of the civil rights movement please.

I thought RP was down with individual rights…?

Doesn’t that trump civil rights?

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
I thought RP was down with individual rights…?

Doesn’t that trump civil rights?[/quote]

Individual rights to do what? Ron Paul is down with limiting fedreal government. This is not the same as individual rights. This is increasing state and local governments rights. HUGE difference.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
I thought RP was down with individual rights…?

Doesn’t that trump civil rights?[/quote]

You don’t get it. If Ron Paul is elected, the South will secede, slavery will be instated, California will witch-hunt all religious and heterosexual people and Iraqis will invade New York.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
And if the Japs had take the opportunity to attack the Soviet Union from the East…

Things could have been different.

The Japs would not dare after this:

"In 1938 Zhukov was directed to command the First Soviet Mongolian Army Group, and saw action against Japan’s Kwantung Army on the border between Mongolia and the Japanese controlled state of Manchukuo in an undeclared war that lasted from 1938 to 1939. What began as a routine border skirmish�??the Japanese testing the resolve of the Soviets to defend their territory�??rapidly escalated into a full-scale war, the Japanese pushing forward with 80,000 troops, 180 tanks and 450 aircraft.

This led to the decisive Battle of Khalkhin Gol. Zhukov requested major reinforcements and on August 15, 1939 he ordered what seemed at first to be a conventional frontal attack. However, he had held back two tank brigades, which in a daring and successful manoeuver he ordered to advance around both flanks of the battle. Supported by motorized artillery and infantry, the two mobile battle groups encircled the 6th Japanese army and captured their vulnerable supply areas. Within a few days the Japanese troops were defeated.

For this operation Zhukov was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgiy_Zhukov[/quote]

That’s interesting, I was unaware of it.