Ron Paul

[quote]Guerrero wrote:
But let me guess…you’re not part of a minority, are you?

Obviously not, since my screen name, is my last name, and my last name, is in Spanish.

So no, I’m not a part of a minority.[/quote]

Wanna get snarky?

Yes. It’s a completely irrational decision. I mean, their birth rates are through the roof and the country has 19 people per square kilometers, so they’re obviously packed. What strikes you when you come to the country is how everything is automated. My local pizza shop has two androids working there. And most importantly, I hear that they just found the largest diamond and gold mines in the world over here. So the pensions for the old folks should be taken care of by the revenues from those mines.

So yes, absolutely no apparent reason.

Yeah, I hear that two centuries ago, blacks and whites where best buddies. Literally inseparable.

C’mon now! Ain’t nothing foreign about Iraq.

As far as elections go, this is certainly the most contentious year EVER. I mean, the candidates are completely polarized. Their differences are major and substantial NOT minor or cosmetic. Exciting times indeed!

[quote]Guerrero wrote:
The Jews also drew all that hatred because they insulated themselves within their own community and didn’t assimilate with the Germans. [/quote]

If there has ever been a community that always assimilated everywhere, it is the Jewish people.

You know what? Go back where it is you crawled from. I’m not going to spend any more time debating you. I feel my IQ is dropping just reading your posts.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Spry wrote:
lixy wrote:
And for Heaven’s sake, can we once have a discussion on this board without referencing Hitler?

Nein! What’s everyone got against ole Hitler anyway?

Hitler:

  1. Started with a Good Idea - A Supreme Race

BUT

  1. Made a Logic Error - Genetic diversity is the way to go. Genetic uniformity is not.

AND

  1. Poorly Implemented a Plan - Should have conquered Europe slower.

shouldn’t of attacked russia until all of the west was conquered, shouldn’t of let the japs attack the US.[/quote]

I disagree. Hitler should have concentrated the full thrust of his blizkrieg on the Soviet Union right off the bat. The Ukraine should have been next on the menu right after Czechoslovakia and Poland. Hit the Soviets right in the breadbasket, and before they even have time to starve, take out Belorussia and the Balkans, then push right past Lenigrad into Moscow. Instead he farts around in France and marches up into the Low Countries, dividing his forces and pissing away his resources.

If he had taken Moscow instead of Paris, the Brits wouldn’t have cared, which means the Americans wouldn’t have cared. More importantly, he would have been able to complete his conquest before the Soviets could develop a sufficient counter.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Spry wrote:
lixy wrote:
And for Heaven’s sake, can we once have a discussion on this board without referencing Hitler?

Nein! What’s everyone got against ole Hitler anyway?

Hitler:

  1. Started with a Good Idea - A Supreme Race

BUT

  1. Made a Logic Error - Genetic diversity is the way to go. Genetic uniformity is not.

AND

  1. Poorly Implemented a Plan - Should have conquered Europe slower.

shouldn’t of attacked russia until all of the west was conquered, shouldn’t of let the japs attack the US.

I disagree. Hitler should have concentrated the full thrust of his blizkrieg on the Soviet Union right off the bat. The Ukraine should have been next on the menu right after Czechoslovakia and Poland. Hit the Soviets right in the breadbasket, and before they even have time to starve, take out Belorussia and the Balkans, then push right past Lenigrad into Moscow. Instead he farts around in France and marches up into the Low Countries, dividing his forces and pissing away his resources.

If he had taken Moscow instead of Paris, the Brits wouldn’t have cared, which means the Americans wouldn’t have cared. More importantly, he would have been able to complete his conquest before the Soviets could develop a sufficient counter.[/quote]

This is true, but there are so many “ifs”. If this, if that - it’s astounding to think of what could have been.

For instance, WWII was basically started over a regional conflict between Germany and Poland. That’s a loose quotation of a statement attributable to Pat Buchanan. He’s right, of course.

The Nazi’s pursued an alliance with Poland against Stalin, only to be rebuffed.

http://www.biodiversityforum.com/showthread.php5?t=33280

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=120310&sid=5a5a337b5370073c8e4ddd1eac2635ad

And the Atlantic Wall…you know that they were deliberately misled as to where the attacks would occur. That was the turning point of the war. The German High Command privately thought that if the allies breached the wall, Hitler should have pursued peace negotiations immediately, rather than fighting all the way to Berlin.

And if the Italians could fight worth a damn, instead of surrendering en masse to British regiments in Africa…

If Rommel had been given more than bare scraps to work with…

And if the Japs had take the opportunity to attack the Soviet Union from the East…

Things could have been different.

The Jews are a…

Strong words. Who said them?

Martin Luther.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Spry wrote:
lixy wrote:
And for Heaven’s sake, can we once have a discussion on this board without referencing Hitler?

Nein! What’s everyone got against ole Hitler anyway?

Hitler:

  1. Started with a Good Idea - A Supreme Race

BUT

  1. Made a Logic Error - Genetic diversity is the way to go. Genetic uniformity is not.

AND

  1. Poorly Implemented a Plan - Should have conquered Europe slower.

shouldn’t of attacked russia until all of the west was conquered, shouldn’t of let the japs attack the US.

I disagree. Hitler should have concentrated the full thrust of his blizkrieg on the Soviet Union right off the bat. The Ukraine should have been next on the menu right after Czechoslovakia and Poland. Hit the Soviets right in the breadbasket, and before they even have time to starve, take out Belorussia and the Balkans, then push right past Lenigrad into Moscow. Instead he farts around in France and marches up into the Low Countries, dividing his forces and pissing away his resources.

If he had taken Moscow instead of Paris, the Brits wouldn’t have cared, which means the Americans wouldn’t have cared. More importantly, he would have been able to complete his conquest before the Soviets could develop a sufficient counter.[/quote]

would take a lot of men to occupy russia. Take control of the west, assimilate them to a german controlled society over a few year to a decade. Start a draft and destroy the russians.

I think Germany just should have concentrated on food development and shit like that.

Think about if all those underground bombshelters they built where instead botany agricultral vats etcetera.

The concept is astounding when you think if they would have taken all that drive for a warmachine and isntead placed into ultimate productivity and production.

They should have just greatly expanded their wealth and power and then absorbed just the regions of their neighbors where german populations inhabited.

Strengthened ties with Germanic countries.

Conquer France, Belgium, sell it to the Rexists, and then annex Albana and whatver shit is in the way to makie that the mediterranean coast.

Stop there, fortify, make money, work with your neighbors economically.

Guerrero, the country was marked for destruction by the Western Powers as soon as Hitler withdrew her from the international finance markets (Jewish owned and controlled). The miraculous economic turnabout of Germany under the Nazi party was NOT financed by Jewish credit. Hitler was a marked man.

His aim was to provide Germany with autonomy for the first time in history. This is why he needed “living space” in the east.

Quotes:

“Germany’s UNFORGIVABLE crime before the second world war was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would DENY world finance its opportunity TO PROFIT.”

-Churchill to Lord Robert Boothby, quoted in: Sidney Rogerson, Propaganda in the Next War, originally published in 1938

“Played golf with Joe Kennedy (U.S. Ambassador to Britain). He says that Chamberlain stated that America and world Jewry forced England into World War II.” - James Forrestal, Secretary of the Navy (later Secretary of Defense), Diary, December 27, 1945 entry.

“It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America.” - Adolf Hitler, April, 1945.

http://americandefenseleague.com/judea_declares_war_on_germany.htm

All of this ties into Austrian economics, the Gold Standard, Central Banking, and Ron Paul’s platform.

Libertarians can theorize all day about the superiority of free markets, but the fact of the matter is - they don’t exist, anywhere in the world. There is no true capitalism of the sort that any Austrian economist could be proud of. All the wealth in the world is controlled by financial oligarchies. Where “capitalism” exists, it is crony capitalism, or corporatism.

National socialism was an ideology rooted in opposition to the twin evils of socialism and crony capitalism. And did it ever work.

[quote]
If there has ever been a community that always assimilated everywhere, it is the Jewish people.

You know what? Go back where it is you crawled from. I’m not going to spend any more time debating you. I feel my IQ is dropping just reading your posts.[/quote]
Errrr, yiddish? Errrr, Ladino?

If they assimalate so well, why the fuck do they insulate themselves in certain areas, encourage marriage amongst themselves and speak their own language unintelligible to the rest of the country, after generations.

I’ll slap you across your fucking face, you punk ass pouting afro tar baby.

You needn’t be talking to your Papa like that.

[quote]
But let me guess…you’re not part of a minority, are you?[/quote]
BTW, I don’t consider myself ‘a minority’, that term is a bullshit ploy made to Balkanize the country I was born in.

I’m an American, and whether I’m of Latin descent, Anglo Descent, African descent, my racial origin doesn’t change my loyalty to the republic.

We’re one people, and we don’t need little internationalist trolls to divide us up, trying to pull our populations into foriegn loyalties.

FUCK ENGLAND, FUCK AFRICA, FUCK MEXICO.

Let’s worry about ourselves, and us only.

Vote Ron Paul (If he were still viable)

[quote]Guerrero wrote:

I’ll slap you across your fucking face, you punk ass pouting afro tar baby.
[/quote]

???

[quote]orion wrote:
Guerrero wrote:

I’ll slap you across your fucking face, you punk ass pouting afro tar baby.

???[/quote]

I think the guy blew a fuse.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:

Quotes:

“Germany’s UNFORGIVABLE crime before the second world war was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would DENY world finance its opportunity TO PROFIT.”

-Churchill to Lord Robert Boothby, quoted in: Sidney Rogerson, Propaganda in the Next War, originally published in 1938

…[/quote]

How was this quote which references the second world war published in 1938 BEFORE it started?

The wording of the statement (past tense) does sound odd given it’s alleged publication date. But if you changed “was” to “will be”, it would be perfectly plausible.

Someone probably got the date wrong.

Although, by 1938, you would expect that top leaders on both sides could see what was coming.

If you believe the historical theory that is being suggested on that page, they would have known about it since '33.

More on Churchill from Rense and Lew Rockwell.

http://www.rense.com/general67/curch.htm

Good reads. I am aware of a loud insect outside my window.

[quote]CONTAINING STALIN

In order to control Stalin, international finance was forced to build up Hitler and the Nazi party. Rakowsky confirms that Jewish financiers backed the Nazis although Hitler was not aware of this.

“The ambassador Warburg presented himself under a false name and Hitler did not even guess his race… he also lied regarding whose representative he was… Our aim was to provoke a war and Hitler was war…[the Nazis] received…millions of dollars sent to it from Wall Street, and millions of marks from German financiers through Schacht; [providing] the upkeep of the S.A and the S.S. and also the financing of the elections…” (259-260)

Unfortunately for the bankers, Hitler also proved intractable. He started to print his own money!

“He took over for himself the privilege of manufacturing money and not only physical moneys, but also financial ones; he took over the untouched machinery of falsification and put it to work for the benefit of the state… Are you capable of imagining what would have come …if it had infected a number of other states and brought about the creation of a period of autarchy [absolute rule, replacing that of the bankers]. If you can, then imagine its counterrevolutionary functions…” (263)

Hitler had become a bigger threat than Stalin, who had not meddled with money. Rakovsky’s present mission was to convince Stalin to make a pact with Hitler and turn Hitler’s aggression against the West. The purpose was for Germany and the Western nations to exhaust each other before another front was opened in the East. [/quote]

Give me a kiss.

Let’s make up.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
The wording of the statement (past tense) does sound odd given it’s alleged publication date. But if you changed “was” to “will be”, it would be perfectly plausible.

Someone probably got the date wrong.

Although, by 1938, you would expect that top leaders on both sides could see what was coming.

If you believe the historical theory that is being suggested on that page, they would have known about it since '33.[/quote]

You seem very well-informed about the quotes you post here. Well done.

“It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America.” - Adolf Hitler, April, 1945.

I know it has always been my motto that if you want to learn the truth about someone, wait until after he is hiding out in some pisshole, contemplating suicide, catastrophic defeat in hand, with enemy forces in street combat a few blocks away. It is quite shocking how quickly the true pacifist comes out in some people.

If you don’t believe it, that’s one thing.

I share information as I come across it. Some things, I can claim to know authoritatively, other things I can’t.

It’s the same with everybody else. The difference is, with me, you’ll always hear it straight.

[quote]Jack_Dempsey wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
The wording of the statement (past tense) does sound odd given it’s alleged publication date. But if you changed “was” to “will be”, it would be perfectly plausible.

Someone probably got the date wrong.

Although, by 1938, you would expect that top leaders on both sides could see what was coming.

If you believe the historical theory that is being suggested on that page, they would have known about it since '33.

You seem very well-informed about the quotes you post here. Well done.

“It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America.” - Adolf Hitler, April, 1945.

I know it has always been my motto that if you want to learn the truth about someone, wait until after he is hiding out in some pisshole, contemplating suicide, catastrophic defeat in hand, with enemy forces in street combat a few blocks away. It is quite shocking how quickly the true pacifist comes out in some people.

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But, JD, why would Nominal Prospect–known for his “authoritative” command of the facts and for telling us “straight”–embrace the terminal hallucination of that particular diseased mind? Oh, I know…because his own delusional mind embraces Hitler and that type of “philosophy!”
All else follows, and what better adherent of Ron Paul could we have, than our very own Nominal Prospect.
“Adherent”–like a cling-on is adherent to an anus.