Zap, you can’t be serious. Honestly. Try to separate what he’s arguing (because you and I both disagree with his political positions) with how he’s able to argue and articulate it. He is masterfully good at the latter. Almost as good as Bill Clinton (at the latter).
His “misunderstanding of economics” is something that I agree with you on – you and I agree on conservative, supply-side fiscal policy being the way to go. But whether we like it or not there is another (or many other) school of thought, and about half the economists (and politicians, and people) agree with one side and half agree with the other. He’s on the other side from us. Correct.
BUT, you CANNOT tell me that he wasn’t able to articulate his side a thousand times better than most people can articulate their thoughts on the subject, or a million times better than McCain and Palin could articulate theirs.
FUCK, man, there’s a shining illustration right there!! The Republicans (McCain) have the most EASY TO ARGUE position on any topic there is – fiscal conservatism and why higher taxes are harmful to the economy – and McCain FLUBBED it Every. Fucking. Time when it was served up to him on a SILVER PLATTER by interviewers!! He handled it SO BADLY I wanted to throw things through the plasma screen!
If you’ve got a candidate who is THAT bad at articulating his position – the position that’s EASY AS PIE to make the argument for to the American people – who just can’t do it (probably in large part because he himself doesn’t have a deep understanding of it) then he’s gonna’ get WHOOPED by a smarter, more articulate, more intelligent, capable guy who is arguing the other side.
If you think Barack Obama doesn’t speak intelligently or impressively in one-on-one interviews, “without a teleprompter,” then I honestly have nothing left to say. You’re obviously seeing what you want to see.
The Republicans need to STOP – NOMINATING – MORONS.
That’s the least I ask.
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Damici wrote:
You missed my point about intellectual abilities completely. It’s not about schools or grades. Go back and read what I wrote in that regard.
BTW, I do not agree with 99.9999% of Obama’s politics, but from an intellectual perspective, to claim that he “couldn’t keep up with this forum . . . ??” You’ve got to be joking.
Disagree with him all you want (and I do). The guy is one SMART motherfucker. He can think and understand circles around the likes of Bush or Palin, and everybody knows it. Know thy enemy, Zap.
What he DOES with that understanding is another matter, but the point is that the Republicans need to start nominating people of that intellectual caliber (i.e. the best and the brightest, since it is the office of PRESIDENT), and NOT pandering to the lowest common denominator who are “turned off by people with too much smarts.”
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pookie wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Her qualifications for office exceed his, her ideology is more in line with what has made this country great.
“That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with, we’re ill about this position that we have been put in. Where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh, it’s got to be about job creation, too. Shoring up our economy, and getting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade – we have got to see trade as opportunity, not as, uh, competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation.” - Sarah Palin
“If course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans who get stuck holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first” - Sarah Palin
Yes, an amazing intellect. Her brain is so quick, her mouth has trouble keeping up.
I am not really sure what your point is. We just elected a pair of morons to be president and vp. Neither one of those could even keep up with this forum.
Why expect more from the Republicans? Why do people pretend they are not as bright? “Stupid” George Bush did better in school than his opponents and his IQ was the same yet people pretend he was dumber.
This is a phony issue.
You must be kidding. Reading another mans pretty words from a teleprompter is not a sign of intelligence. The debates with Hillary and McCain showed us he is not very quick witted or well spoken when not reading from a script. He has a fundamental misunderstanding of economics. All he knows is how to appeal to the masses to obtain power.
The mainstream media hid his many gaffes from us.
I suppose you can define him as an intellectual in the worst sense of the word but that does not make him brighter than the average dim bulb politician.
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