Okay. Bored at work? Me too.
I watched Rocky III last night for the 111th time and at the end Apollo tells Rocky that favor he owes him is an untelevised, unseen rematch.
They start the fight but before it happens, before they can make contact the movie ends and fades into the iconic Apollo vs. Rocky painting.
So, T-Nation… who do you think won? Apollo a great fighter or Rocky a man who fought greatly?
Rocky … because he didn’t die in the fourth movie
Trick Question. Chuck norris won.
If that fight took place, they wouldn’t be brawling like they did in their real fights. Not the same atmosphere, no one watching, no timekeepr, no cutmen, etc. Plus, after becoming friends, it’s doubtful they would have been truly going after each other with no money involved.
So Apollo probably, because Rocky wouldn’t be trying desperately to kill him with heavy hooks, and Apollo would lightly outbox him.
Oh but Irish Rocky vastly improved his boxing skills in that movie when he started training with the black fighters.
FightinIrish26 that makes a lot of sense…
How about this…
In Rocky Balboa, Mason Dixon is the guy to beat… How would Dixon measure up to Rocky’s past opponents?
[quote]BodyByGame20 wrote:
In Rocky Balboa, Mason Dixon is the guy to beat… How would Dixon measure up to Rocky’s past opponents?[/quote]
Haha. Well, as much as I like them, Rocky III and IV were just ridiculous compared to… I don’t know, real life?
In reality, Dixon would be by far the toughest, because (in the movie) he is a fast, slick southpaw with a powerful lefthand. Rocky never fought other southpaws as I remember, and his footwork was pretty awful to begin with, so honestly in real life, Dixon’s type fighter would demolish him.
Ironically enough, Antonio Tarver himself was never all that slick or fast compared to other fighters… he just packed a heavy left hand, kind of like Rocky in the movies.
[quote]drewh wrote:
Oh but Irish Rocky vastly improved his boxing skills in that movie when he started training with the black fighters.[/quote]
Ahh yes… well you know those wily minorities…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
he is a fast, slick southpaw with a powerful lefthand. Rocky never fought other southpaws as I remember [/quote]
Clubber Lang (Mr. T) was also a southpaw according to the commentary. I think Apollo and Clubber would’ve both been hell for Dixon, I just don’t see him winning those…
Maybe it’s just my respect for both characters talking.
Appollo gave him a shiner Appollo wins. I wonder if he’s in the expendables HMMM cameo of Carl Weathers.
[quote]BodyByGame20 wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
he is a fast, slick southpaw with a powerful lefthand. Rocky never fought other southpaws as I remember [/quote]
Clubber Lang (Mr. T) was also a southpaw according to the commentary. I think Apollo and Clubber would’ve both been hell for Dixon, I just don’t see him winning those…
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That’s right, I forgot Clubber was a southpaw.
But Dixon’s speed beats Clubber’s power, even in the Rocky world where fighter’s don’t jab.
Apollo however, a big strong heavyweight who’s fast and can punch, is probably the best of the crop of the Rocky movies… supposed to be like a fictional Ali.
Yep, he sure is. The entire original movie was inspired by Ali vs. Wepner…
Ah, the rocky movies. Good stuff right here.
I always wondered what it would be like if the other boxers in the movie had fought each other…
Clubber Lang v. Apollo
Tommy Gunn v. Drago
Apollo v. Dixon
…any and all of the combinations you could put together.
I love these movies.
I pick Drago over any of them since he killed Apollo.
[quote]BodyByGame20 wrote:
Clubber Lang v. Apollo
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Apollo outboxes him. Lang doesn’t have the stamina to fight like Joe Frazier did against Ali… Apollo would outbox him, never let him get close enough.
Drago. Tommy was a one trick pony, but Drago was a devastating puncher with a massive reach advantage. It’d be like fighting a 6’5, 250 lb. Tommy Hearns. No thanks.
Best, and most realistic, matchup of all of them. I think Apollo in his prime wins though- too fast, too powerful, and enough of a shit talker that he’d get Dixon all upset before hand.
Just my opinion.
Apollo showed he could get hit I’d take Clubber by KO.
I’m glad everyone’s sharing their opinions!
I think Drago and Lang were the deadliest with Rocky and Apollo carrying the most skill and will.
Dixon came off as a paper tiger to me, he didn’t seem pushed and could barely beat a 60yr old Balboa.
Maybe I’m missing something in his appeal…
The Dixon Fights:
James “Clubber” Lang v. Mason “The Line” Dixon:
I think Lang takes this in the 8th round with a devastating hook. Mason isn’t powerful enough to put Clubber away in the early rounds but Clubber is too slow to end Dixon early, it carries into the 8th when finally Lang can get a full flush hook to the temple in crumpling Dixon to the canvas for a 10 count.
Ivan “The Siberian Bull” Drago v. Mason “The Line” Dixon:
Drago ends it cleanly in the 3rd. Dixon attempts to set the pace with side steps and jabs, once Drago gets irritated (mid 2nd round) he would begin to press Dixon, ultimately knocking him out in the 3rd.
Tommy “The Machine” Gunn v. Mason “The Line” Dixon:
“The Line” gets the knockout early on in the 2nd round. Tommy Gunn LOSES to a sick (concussed), retired for 4 years boxer in a street fight in part 5, while Dixon is a paper tiger, Gunn was a paper bird in comparison.
Apollo “The King of Sting” Creed v. Mason “The Line” Dixon:
I see a knockout in the 5th round. Apollo would tire Mason out, with the way he moved around that ring in the first two films this would come rather easily to the seldom defeated former champion.
Dixon looked out of shape in RB, I don’t see him show Creed much more respect then he would Balboa, he would show up, get tired and catch a slick combination in the 5th sinking him to the canvas.
Just my opinion though…
Some ole bullshit
Rocky 3 end fight between Apollo and Rocky: Apollo wins by points and boxing skill.
Apollo(at his peak) vs Lang: Apollo. He would duck his punches and tag lang in his weak spot all day
Apollo(at his peak) vs Drago: Only way Apollo wins is by dancing around and scoring on points. This fight I can’t give a concrete answer
Drago vs Lang: Drago wins. He’s a combination of crazy genetics, crazy power, and boxing skill, and toughness. Lang only has crazy skill and toughness, but not mentally tough like Drago.
Fuck Rocky 5, not worth mentioning.
Mason Dixon…I don’t care.
[quote]BodyByGame20 wrote:
Apollo “The King of Sting”
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Didn’t Appollo have like 50 nicknames? I remember 4 the anouncement lasted longer than the fight itself
Master of Disaster, King of Sting, The Dancing Destroyer, and my personal favorite The Count of Monte Fisto!
I think Rocky III is a movie.