I’m honestly more excited by the prospect of WB studios using good filmmakers to make riskier films like Joker. The key word thing here is “good filmmakers”, not woefully incompetent diversity hires like the chick that made Birds of Prey. Christopher Nolan’s Batman films would have worked even if Batman was played by Cillian Murphy IMO even though I don’t see him being able to preacher curl Liam Neeson up the edge of a cliff.
Marvel already did take this risk long ago, albeit with lots of obvious studio intervention. Kenneth Branagh, James Gunn, The Russo Brothers, The New Zealander who’s name I can’t spell etc. I’m not excited about their next phase, though, for obvious reasons. Robert Downey Jr was fucking thespian, not an A list actor. They put him in Iron Man.
If they’re going to try to screw things up with all the PC bullshit both on and offscreen, then let it all crash and burn like Star Wars. The fans aren’t stupid.
They should just hire one of the posters on T-Nation. I don’t know who for sure…was thinking a Pwnisher build or a Flip build or something. If they could be just a bit bulkier though, you know? Like the same kind of build, but bigger? More muscular? Oh, and they’d have to be total playboys also. Especially with Brazilian women.
Batman doesn’t need to look like a bodybuilder, BUT the premise is that he’s trained and pushed his body to be at the peak of human performance,… so no, not Dorian Yates, but at least look like a world class crossfit athlete.
In all honesty, women who play super heroes aren’t expected to meet these body image standards though. Scarlett Johansen, for example, doesn’t even lift, her character has no super powers, but somehow she holds her own with people with super human strength.
I had to look up this Robert Pattinson clown. My god, google images makes me want to punch him in the face with his stupid blue steel pose in every picture.
I was disappointed in the choice of Ben Affleck, but comparatively that seems like a great choice.
I feel like someone like Clint Eastwood’s son Scott would be a good candidate for batman. pretty good shape, and far tougher than this Robert clown.
They’re all pretty big. All the women playing as superheroes look slim and athletic - they’re not drawn with ronnie coleman muscles in comics, and they aren’t portrayed that way in real life. The only way they are portrayed that’s unattainable is a lot of marvel females and comic book females have enormous busts that, short of surgery, aren’t possible to obtain for most actresses. I would wholeheartedly disagree with the gender card here.
But even in the comic. No way in hell the way a 5’3 125 non-lifting female with no super powers is drawn is going hand-to-hand with the same guy who beat up Thor and Hulk, and even Captain Marvel, Iron Man, and even Dr Strange have somewhat athletic expectations. There are plenty of female lifters who would have a more accurate physique. Spiderman can pull off being a skinny high schooler because he has super powers.
I would like Micky Rourke as Batman. Batman should be manly as he has man in his name. I don’t want a feminine batman. I thought Christian Bale was a good choice. Pretty jacked, but not IFBB pro or anything.
Okay, so what point are you trying to make? You said “women who play super heroes aren’t expected to meet these body image standards”, but the standard is the way they’re drawn, and they’ve come fairly close to meeting it. You’re confusing realism with comic book accuracy. It’s a bit silly to complain about the realism of a small woman beating a strong guy in the same paragraph that you casually mention super powers. I don’t expect comic book movies to be realistic, I expect them to attempt to emulate the comic book they’re being made about.
“Punisher Max” is an amazing series for the Punisher. They don’t de-age Frank Castle at all: he’s a 60-70 year old Vietnam vet still killing criminals in the mid 2000s. He’s big, rugged and slowed down.
But if we’re going with realism: no. I don’t care how badass Frank Castle is: 40 years of physically fighting crime, getting your bones broken AND having gone through tours of Vietnam means you’re in a nursing home.
It’s both. The actress who play them aren’t held to the same standards because they’re drawn like that, and there wouldn’t be any actresses to play that role if they were portrayed realistically. I expect some realism in comic books in scenarios where people don’t have super powers.
If somebody can have a fist fight with Superman without super powers, they should be pretty fuckin jacked. If somebody without super powers can have a fist fight with the same guy that beat up the Hulk, she should also be pretty jacked in whether it be comic book or live action.
I imagine they would just CGI the physiques if they were drawn bigger, like as has been done with Juggernaut, Colossus and Thanos.
But comic artist draw women for comic readers and comic readers are primarily men who want a power fantasy. Was no different in the era of the Rob Howard paperback.
