[quote]malonetd wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
What if one road just become a picket line of crosses? At what point is enough enough? Do you let them just erect one after another after another?
Who cares if the whole damn road is filled with crosses? What does it matter? If you think it’s an eyesore, clean it up. With all the other shit all over the roads, I can’t believe anyone would claim that these are a distraction.
And what if I need to pull quickly to the side of the road and I suffer damage due to a cross being hurled through my window or it causes scratches to my paint job? Do I sue the family or do I sue the city for not removing a potential
Why would you need to sue anybody? You’re the crazy driver that suddenly swerved off the road? If you fall out of bed, do you sue the mattress company? You’re really reaching here.
EDIT: I typed this before your “come clean” post.[/quote]
Fella I’m from California. We have a saying, “Know what it takes to file a lawsuit? … The filing fee.”
it’s all good. I was just throwing things out there.
[quote]anonym wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
But Maximus, a human being DIED. This isn’t an advertisement meant to sell product. Its a memorial. A person lost their life in that certain spot.
I would say that if you need a place of significance to vent your grief, the actual resting place of the departed would be more appropriate than the spot they died. Or ANY spot that was a place of significance for the deceased during the time they were alive.
As OG mentioned earlier, a more sensible alternative would be to take some measure to ensure that such accidents do not happen again (erecting a street light, road sign, etc.) and/or planting a tree/engraving a bench with their name and donating it to the local park.
I, personally, don’t CARE how someone chooses to go about the grieving process… but if I died tragically, I would rather my family used their grief as a catalyst to promote a positive change in the community, rather than making a roadside exhibition out of my death.
Different strokes, I guess.[/quote]
I see your point. I have the capability to have an interesting debate with you about the current subject, but considering this thread is dead and I’ve dedicated the rest of the night to looking at porn…I’m gonna have to say “Kick rocks, anonym”
Two years ago at my college, some kid got hammered and fell off a bridge trying to show off by doing a handstand on the railing (which was only about 3 feet and change high). Needless to say, he died.
The city responded by placing a chain-link fence in front of the rail to prevent others from messing around with it, as well.
Well, last year, at the time his birthday rolled around, a bunch of his friends spelled out “Happy Birthday, XXX” in the fence using those red plastic cups that every college student loves to get hammered out of.
They probably thought it was clever at the time, but I always found it odd they used a universal symbol of drinking to commemorate a death caused by alcohol.
A random story for a dead thread. And Wol - get that nut, brother. It’s past my bedtime, anyhow.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Fella I’m from California. We have a saying, “Know what it takes to file a lawsuit? … The filing fee.”
it’s all good. I was just throwing things out there.
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I lived in SoCal for several years. I know what it takes, that doesn’t change my opinion.
And speaking of California, there was a Star of David “memorial” off the 405 in the west valley back in 2001 or 2002. I haven’t been out there in over 5 years, so I can’t remember the area completely. I think that’s Northridge or Granada Hills.
I used to coach at a Jewish school up there and, to be honest, I would have probably never noticed it if it weren’t the students pointing it out to me.
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Well, here’s your problem: you are disagreeing with someone while still respecting their opinion. This is not how the Internet works. You simply aren’t cool unless you not only disagree with someone, but express pure contempt at their entire thought process and act flabbergasted at the fact that they even have enough brain cells to rub together to generate ANY thought whatsoever - much less one as completely, embarrassingly off the mark as the one they had the temerity to share in your presence.
Remember, you aren’t arguing to prove the other person wrong so much as you are arguing to show how intelligent and awesome you are to the e-audience following along. And nothing screams how intelligent you are quite as well as expressing the inability to grasp another persons point of view on a subject without tweaking out.
What if this was done at other places where people died? What if you went to visit granny in the home and there was a grave marker in front of her room? Do these people who lose someone in a wreck want to be reminded of it every time they see someone elses marker?
I should probably come clean and let all those outraged folks know that I just chose a side to pick a fight. I had a bad day so decided to poke at things. I don’t care about the crosses, I think there are much better ways to memorialize a person, but whatever helps those that are left deal with things (to an extent) is understandable. But I do think there should be limits. I am just glad I don’t have to decide them.[/quote]
Sorry to hijack this momentarily but my last wife must have been a distant relative of yours OG…she would come home in a bad mood (which I didn’t cause) and want to pick a fight with me. Never could figure that shit out.
I should probably come clean and let all those outraged folks know that I just chose a side to pick a fight. I had a bad day so decided to poke at things. I don’t care about the crosses, I think there are much better ways to memorialize a person, but whatever helps those that are left deal with things (to an extent) is understandable. But I do think there should be limits. I am just glad I don’t have to decide them.[/quote]
It makes me drive faster to speed past the damn things. Not everyone wants to look at crosses along the road.
I didn’t even realize how much it irks me that people put their religious symbols all over public property and somehow it gets okayed. I wonder if I could start a lawsuit about them hijacking public property for religious purposes?[/quote]
Same here, plus when they are in residential areas it lowers property values.
How about putting a memorial to someone on the back window of a car (in letters), I’m sure it’s done in other areas. I think that’s pointless as well, but not as pointless as the roadside markers.
[quote]anonym wrote:
Two years ago at my college, some kid got hammered and fell off a bridge trying to show off by doing a handstand on the railing (which was only about 3 feet and change high). Needless to say, he died.
The city responded by placing a chain-link fence in front of the rail to prevent others from messing around with it, as well.
Well, last year, at the time his birthday rolled around, a bunch of his friends spelled out “Happy Birthday, XXX” in the fence using those red plastic cups that every college student loves to get hammered out of.
They probably thought it was clever at the time, but I always found it odd they used a universal symbol of drinking to commemorate a death caused by alcohol.
A random story for a dead thread. And Wol - get that nut, brother. It’s past my bedtime, anyhow.[/quote]
[quote]Jack Doe wrote:
I get it, but it is gettin ridiculous. Driving to work today there was another new cross and flowers on the road to memorialize where a drunk was driving too fast and bashed into a pole. There are a total of 4 on my way to work. What is the lifespan of one of these things? What if more than one person dies in the same spot? Do you have to move your memorial down the road so as not to intrude? What if it is in someone’s driveway or out their living room window? Does that family have to stare out at someone elses death shrine? This is not a public service or piece of art. People I don’t care, stop it already.[/quote]
I agree with you. I’ve seen more and more of this in the last fifteen years.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
anonym wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Why do you feel the need to call OG a dumb bitch, because she disagrees with you ? If you have a different position on the issue, I think you are entitled, but why call out names dude?
It is a little excessive, isn’t it.
I am just saying, I can totally disagree with someone, respect their opinoon, and not call them a bitch or an asshole. What does that prove? That you can’t debate for shit? [/quote]
And I can disagree with someone without calling them a dumb fuck. But apparently, Tits McGee over here can’t. Why are you giving SH a hard time when OG is doing the same thing? Scared she won’t send you any more nudes for your spank bank?
[quote]anonym wrote:
Two years ago at my college, some kid got hammered and fell off a bridge trying to show off by doing a handstand on the railing (which was only about 3 feet and change high). Needless to say, he died.
The city responded by placing a chain-link fence in front of the rail to prevent others from messing around with it, as well.
Well, last year, at the time his birthday rolled around, a bunch of his friends spelled out “Happy Birthday, XXX” in the fence using those red plastic cups that every college student loves to get hammered out of.
They probably thought it was clever at the time, but I always found it odd they used a universal symbol of drinking to commemorate a death caused by alcohol.
A random story for a dead thread. And Wol - get that nut, brother. It’s past my bedtime, anyhow.[/quote]
Good point, I’m sure many of these memorials were self created by stupid acts. I didn’t care either way, but there are just more and more all the time. A kid gets drunk, walks home, passes out on the road and gets run over. roadside memorial. Why?
And yes, this did happen just up the road from me. And there’s a memorial. Most of these thigng get all crappy and worn and are not taken care of and now we have what is essentially trash on the road. Like we need more than of that.
do what you want on the cemetery, the roadside stuff just seems tacky to me.
Drunk dude crashed into a car and then into a big-ass ditch at about 130 kmph, dead on impact. It’s right in front of our house. I can’t make my breakfast without looking at where he died.
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
anonym wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Why do you feel the need to call OG a dumb bitch, because she disagrees with you ? If you have a different position on the issue, I think you are entitled, but why call out names dude?
It is a little excessive, isn’t it.
I am just saying, I can totally disagree with someone, respect their opinoon, and not call them a bitch or an asshole. What does that prove? That you can’t debate for shit?
And I can disagree with someone without calling them a dumb fuck. But apparently, Tits McGee over here can’t. Why are you giving SH a hard time when OG is doing the same thing? Scared she won’t send you any more nudes for your spank bank?[/quote]
OG’s handing out nudes!!! Ahem… I need a little love shown this way, please…
