Thanks @highpull
The Total T and Total E2 plus blood count was done on day of Jab- before I jabbed (e3d 63mg Sustanon).
I’m about to do a comprehensive set to work out why I’m getting itchy chest mass and some growth (with prolactin and free t etc).
Which day would you advise I do it on to try and catch the cause?
An easy way to test this is to take some B6 or P5P (100-300mg) and see if your nipples feel less sensitive. Worked for me
Latest Blood Tests-
This is on 0.25ml of Sustanon 250 every 3 days. (Approx 140mg per week), However with the losses from how I’m drawing and changing needles I’d estimate more like 125mg.
I feel pretty decent- compared to before trt kind of like how I did in mid to late 20s. Don’t feel like I’ve got much in the way of sides that are bad at the min. Libido and Erectile function are up and down a bit (excuse the pun), definitely nowhere near as good as when in the honeymoon trt period. I dont feel as motivated and wanting to get things done or as chirpy or as confident as I would like- my exercise recovery is definitely improved over before trt too but not as good as I’d like either.
I’d like to try a slightly higher dosage I think to just experiment. Was thinking of moving the 0.25ml to 0.33ml still e3d
@highpull any input?
These were taken on day 2 after injection so the day before injection is due.
I’ve been on this protocal about 12 weeks I think.
Anyone know.why my DHEA Sulphate might have dipped? What even is it? Could lower end DHEA have anything to do with softer elections?
My SHBG hasn’t been driven down a lot yet- its dropped a tiny bit.
I like it.
It fluctuates. Run the search on this site.
That has been reported.
I would go a little higher and try to get Free T to upper quarter of range.
Yeah @blshaw am I right in thinking you were on Sustanon for a while?
I’m actually really pleased with how I’m responding to it despite its bad rep. Prob the e3d is helping.
What’s everyone think about trying moving from 62.5mg e3d to 83mg e3d?
Basically it then means I split an ampoule into 3 rather than 4 so easy to sort out.
Really pleased my hematocrit hasn’t gone up (actually dropped), as was worried that was going to be a limiting factor in upping the dose.
Protocal change approved by my Dr.
Thinking of trying 0.33ml every 3 days as that equates to about 195mg per week
That too much of a jump from the 145?
Other option would be to move my current 0.25ml e3d to 0.25 eod but thats changing frequency as well as quantity. With my SHBG being 60 I’m thinking probably unnecessary.
Thing is if I go to 0.33 e3d i’ll be getting less loss as well as thats a whole vial going in via 3 shots not 4 so 3 needle swap losses not 4. So maybe more of a jump than it looks on paper.
Sorry to talk in ml
0.25 is 62.5mg 0.3333 is 83mg (ish),
But with the needle swap losses it gets a bit complicated.
I’d rather not have to pin eod- I still think there is issues long term with scar tissue building up!
Anyone got any thoughts on what they’d change to?
Couple of thoughts:
How are you feeling? Why are changing? Do you feel there is room for significant improvement? Have your Vit D levels gone up?
I wouldn’t factor needle loss in too much, the ones I get have a very minimal loss (search unisharp they’re 1ml one piece things, cheap to buy, I remove the plunger and backfill with another syringe and drawing needle).
If your Dr is happy with the protocol and you feel there is room for improvement then I’d say go for it. I never notice much difference in increasing or decreasing (unless I dropped below 100mg per week, which I did with prop as a brief experiment with an old provider). I wouldn’t change injection frequency at this point, e3d is my current schedule but with sust I was e5d, if anything I had higher libido on e5d sust, despite doses being similar (I’m actually grateful to have a slightly lower libido, having it perma high is a massive distraction, my Mrs felt harassed haha).
As always give the new proctol a decent length of time to assess!
Reason I’m changing is I feel kind of OK.
Not optomised- just OK.
Don’t feel that competitive and feel a bit “cant be arsed” with stuff.
Vit D will take months to improve- im supplementing daily now. Dr is rechecking in 8 weeks.
When I do train I’m aching for quite a bit afterwards so feel a slightly higher T level would be beneficial.
Libido could be better as could erection quality.
I’m way better than before TRT- but feel its not quite there yet.
I’m keen to see if I can get my free t up a touch more than mid range.
The needle loss is just my system- sustanon is so cheap its a non problem- im drawing it up with a 21g and then swapping the needle to one for pinning right before injection. Currently one ampoule goes into 4 syringes. If I go to 0.3333 then one amp will go into 3.
That way the needle thats been exposed to air and used to draw that then sits for up to 9 days for the last one doesnt then get used to pin me. I’m sure its in my head- but I consider it a more sterile way than drawing and then recapping and pinning 9 days later.
All seems to make sense, given your SHBG levels I’d guess the extra T might help bring those down a bit and hopefully improve symptoms, I don’t think a jump to 190mg will be too much, but will probably put you out of the standard total T range, but again if your Drs happy and your happy then only one way to know if it will work for you!
In regards to needles and exposure to air, as I backfill the syringe it’s not a concern (although the content and inner barrel of the syringe has been exposed), I keep mine for up to 12 days never had a problem, my Dr was happy with it. If the needle exposure concerns you, could always alcohol wipe it (and let it dry) before injecting - I do that if I’ve got T on the outside of the needle.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Based on your labs I feel this would put you out of range in Free T and very out of range in TT. I would go no more than .3 mls for now and retest just T/FreeT/E2 in 8 weeks for reevalutation.
Were me, I would up the dose a bit and not change the frequency, esp with your concerns re: pin loss, scarring, etc
Really weird. I havent upped my dosage yet- but I’ve been taking high dose vit d3.
Got seriously itchy nips!
Can d3 increase aromatase?
Did my first 83mg shot last night.
I feel anxious this morning- on edge- can a higher peak test make you feel anxious?
Because you’re using sustanon it’s possible that you’d feel something like that immediately.
True you possibly could, but most likely either psychosomatic or just a coincidentally off day?
Feel fine today. Be interesting after my next shot to see if It happens again!
Actually feel incredible today- is that a sign my previous dose was too low? Or does that happen every time you raise your dose as your receptors dampen?
Worried that could lead to higher and higher doses like a drug addiction?
Anecdotally the slight increase from 63mg to 85mg e3d has made all my muscles retain water.
I look like a tank and I havent lifted a weight in 10 years! Shows on the scales too. About 5kg gain in 2 weeks- not ideal for my sport!!!
