Dr. Pangloss have fun in the Pokey.
Getting back to the original vid:
See, this is why the greater portion of the planet does not get your gun laws. All that screaming and shouting about some retarded “right” to bear arms, but when you have an opportunity to use them, aside from shooting beer cans and squirrels, all you do is flip the bird.
Now, if I lived in a country with your prehistoric gun laws and I was stuck behind some entitled shithead hogging the left hand lane (that would be the right hand lane in many other countries, but let’s just call it the “overtaking lane”), I would seriously pull out that glock or s&W and do a Tarantino on dat bitch. And you know what the driver’s side window would look like, right? Think Django hiding behind that dead body. Remember? Holy crapulations, dat was like Old Faithful in red.
So, if Karma is real, she would have laughed so hard she drove off the road into an Oak tree and planted her undoubtably McDonalds bloated face through the wind shield.
I think I need to cut back on the coffee.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Will207 wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Next you are going to tell me you want to ban driving under the influence too. Sheesh.
[/quote]
Guilty!
On that topic, I feel people don’t understand how wasted you have to be to have a BAC over 0.08. It’s far from 2-3 drinks unless you slammed back a few shots and went right to your car. [/quote]
This is highly individualized. Some people 2-3 drinks will have them looped. My old man would drink a fifth of Jim Beam and you could barely tell he had anything to drink.
[/quote]
Like I said, there will always be outliers. That’s why there are separate charges for being over the legal BAC and impaired operation. You could blow under and be charged with impaired, or have a lot to drink without being impaired and charged with over .80.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
For every cop ensuring traffic safety there are many more generating revenue. Unless there is some impending peril I am missing with the cops I see at 5:30 in the morning in a the speed trap by my house. The speed limit is artificially low there due to a couple of businesses with parking lots close to the road, no bus stops, light traffic, and the businesses are not open. Traffic safety my ass.[/quote]
Are you against paying a fine for an infraction or opposed to the fine being payable to the state? Would you rather do jail time or community service?
Early morning is a great time to nab impaired drivers. Also, those arbitrary speed limits you speak of are usually the result of the residents complaining about the speed being too high in front of their property.
I find this hard to believe. I have not seen many police cars involved in accidents that weren’t pursuit related.
[quote]I have a question for you. Aren’t cops bound by traffic laws unless specifically having a reason to not be? Is it legal for them to drive 85 in a 70 if they are not in pursuit or on the way to a crime scene? I NEVER see them doing the speed limit here.
[/quote]
They could be exempt from the law, but bound by department policy. It depends.
I can’t speak for the cops in your area, but most cops have certified speedometers that are far more accurate than most vehicles. I’ve seen speedometers out by over 5mph on factory rims and tires, and they usually read faster than the actual speed.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
I recently got off the phone with a lawyer. This is going to be a heck of a ticket.
It turns out that due to aggravating conditions (32 over, and a construction zone) this is no longer a petty offense, but is now a Class B misdemeanor with a maximum penalty of 180 days in jail and $1,500 fine.
The minimum fine will be $375 plus court costs and my lawyer is going to cost $400 to represent me at both the first hearing date and at trial (trial!). So, I’m looking at $1,000 ticket easily.
I’m too pretty to go to jail.[/quote]
that sucks, and is bullshit. [/quote]
It sucks, and in no way am I giving the good Dr. a hard time, but how is it bullshit?
“Oh sorry officer, you know this roads is down hill and it’s easy to go 35 mph over the limit…Oh and I didn’t see those giant orange cones either.”
I mean come on…[/quote]
It’s compete utter revenue collecting bullshit because there were no construction workers working (are there ever?), the pig was in an unarked car and the “limit” was 45mph and the Dr. was only doing 77mph. He should get a ticket, but the amount of bullshit he is going to now have to deal with is fucking asinine.
Doing 100 while there are people working, sure throw the book them. 77 while nobody is out there = MONEY COLLECTION.
[/quote]
How can you be sure no one was working? We have night crews doing road work all the time in MD.
Only doing 77, lol, he’s damn near DOUBLE the limit. He also knew he was in a construction zone.
I bet after all this bs Dr. Pangloss won’t do 35 over.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I bet after all this bs Dr. Pangloss won’t do 35 over.[/quote]
That’s right. You can’t drive behind bars.
[quote]Triceptaurus wrote:
Getting back to the original vid:
See, this is why the greater portion of the planet does not get your gun laws. All that screaming and shouting about some retarded “right” to bear arms, but when you have an opportunity to use them, aside from shooting beer cans and squirrels, all you do is flip the bird.
Now, if I lived in a country with your prehistoric gun laws and I was stuck behind some entitled shithead hogging the left hand lane (that would be the right hand lane in many other countries, but let’s just call it the “overtaking lane”), I would seriously pull out that glock or s&W and do a Tarantino on dat bitch. And you know what the driver’s side window would look like, right? Think Django hiding behind that dead body. Remember? Holy crapulations, dat was like Old Faithful in red.
So, if Karma is real, she would have laughed so hard she drove off the road into an Oak tree and planted her undoubtably McDonalds bloated face through the wind shield.
I think I need to cut back on the coffee.[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? The right to bear arms in the US doesn’t give us the right to shoot innocent people. Good call on cutting back on the coffee…
[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
[quote]Triceptaurus wrote:
Getting back to the original vid:
See, this is why the greater portion of the planet does not get your gun laws. All that screaming and shouting about some retarded “right” to bear arms, but when you have an opportunity to use them, aside from shooting beer cans and squirrels, all you do is flip the bird.
Now, if I lived in a country with your prehistoric gun laws and I was stuck behind some entitled shithead hogging the left hand lane (that would be the right hand lane in many other countries, but let’s just call it the “overtaking lane”), I would seriously pull out that glock or s&W and do a Tarantino on dat bitch. And you know what the driver’s side window would look like, right? Think Django hiding behind that dead body. Remember? Holy crapulations, dat was like Old Faithful in red.
So, if Karma is real, she would have laughed so hard she drove off the road into an Oak tree and planted her undoubtably McDonalds bloated face through the wind shield.
I think I need to cut back on the coffee.[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? The right to bear arms in the US doesn’t give us the right to shoot innocent people. Good call on cutting back on the coffee… [/quote]
I’m hoping it was a coffee fueled joke…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
[quote]Triceptaurus wrote:
Getting back to the original vid:
See, this is why the greater portion of the planet does not get your gun laws. All that screaming and shouting about some retarded “right” to bear arms, but when you have an opportunity to use them, aside from shooting beer cans and squirrels, all you do is flip the bird.
Now, if I lived in a country with your prehistoric gun laws and I was stuck behind some entitled shithead hogging the left hand lane (that would be the right hand lane in many other countries, but let’s just call it the “overtaking lane”), I would seriously pull out that glock or s&W and do a Tarantino on dat bitch. And you know what the driver’s side window would look like, right? Think Django hiding behind that dead body. Remember? Holy crapulations, dat was like Old Faithful in red.
So, if Karma is real, she would have laughed so hard she drove off the road into an Oak tree and planted her undoubtably McDonalds bloated face through the wind shield.
I think I need to cut back on the coffee.[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? The right to bear arms in the US doesn’t give us the right to shoot innocent people. Good call on cutting back on the coffee… [/quote]
I’m hoping it was a coffee fueled joke…[/quote]
Or an Aussie that has drank too many Foster’s. Which we all know is Australian for beer.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
[quote]Triceptaurus wrote:
Getting back to the original vid:
See, this is why the greater portion of the planet does not get your gun laws. All that screaming and shouting about some retarded “right” to bear arms, but when you have an opportunity to use them, aside from shooting beer cans and squirrels, all you do is flip the bird.
Now, if I lived in a country with your prehistoric gun laws and I was stuck behind some entitled shithead hogging the left hand lane (that would be the right hand lane in many other countries, but let’s just call it the “overtaking lane”), I would seriously pull out that glock or s&W and do a Tarantino on dat bitch. And you know what the driver’s side window would look like, right? Think Django hiding behind that dead body. Remember? Holy crapulations, dat was like Old Faithful in red.
So, if Karma is real, she would have laughed so hard she drove off the road into an Oak tree and planted her undoubtably McDonalds bloated face through the wind shield.
I think I need to cut back on the coffee.[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? The right to bear arms in the US doesn’t give us the right to shoot innocent people. Good call on cutting back on the coffee… [/quote]
I’m hoping it was a coffee fueled joke…[/quote]
Or an Aussie that has drank too many Foster’s. Which we all know is Australian for beer.
[/quote]
Maybe it’s Australian for coffee??
[quote]Will207 wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
For every cop ensuring traffic safety there are many more generating revenue. Unless there is some impending peril I am missing with the cops I see at 5:30 in the morning in a the speed trap by my house. The speed limit is artificially low there due to a couple of businesses with parking lots close to the road, no bus stops, light traffic, and the businesses are not open. Traffic safety my ass.[/quote]
Are you against paying a fine for an infraction or opposed to the fine being payable to the state? Would you rather do jail time or community service?
Early morning is a great time to nab impaired drivers. Also, those arbitrary speed limits you speak of are usually the result of the residents complaining about the speed being too high in front of their property.
I find this hard to believe. I have not seen many police cars involved in accidents that weren’t pursuit related.
[quote]I have a question for you. Aren’t cops bound by traffic laws unless specifically having a reason to not be? Is it legal for them to drive 85 in a 70 if they are not in pursuit or on the way to a crime scene? I NEVER see them doing the speed limit here.
[/quote]
They could be exempt from the law, but bound by department policy. It depends.
I can’t speak for the cops in your area, but most cops have certified speedometers that are far more accurate than most vehicles. I’ve seen speedometers out by over 5mph on factory rims and tires, and they usually read faster than the actual speed.
[/quote]
What does who I pay a fine to have anything to do with what I wrote? I didn’t get a ticket. That doesn’t mean I can’t spot a speed trap.
5:30 on weekday mornings is a great time to catch impaired drivers? So are the just cruising around for the 2 1/2 hours since the bar closed?
Yes, there is a time of day the speed limit is appropriate due to there being businesses with parking lots close to the road, I thought I made that clear. I’m talking about a time at which the business’s are not open. Strangely, I never see cops there when they are open. Maybe it is because it is not conducive to speeding then due to traffic.
I don’t know what to tell you about you not seeing cops drive like there is no one else on the road, I see it all the time and see many near misses. We just had a fatality last year from a cop doing a U turn on the freeway with no flashers on.
Your logic defies me on the speedometers. So if a cop blows by me it is because I am going slower than I think? Oddly enough my GPS matches the speedo on my truck to the digit.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Will207 wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
For every cop ensuring traffic safety there are many more generating revenue. Unless there is some impending peril I am missing with the cops I see at 5:30 in the morning in a the speed trap by my house. The speed limit is artificially low there due to a couple of businesses with parking lots close to the road, no bus stops, light traffic, and the businesses are not open. Traffic safety my ass.[/quote]
Are you against paying a fine for an infraction or opposed to the fine being payable to the state? Would you rather do jail time or community service?
Early morning is a great time to nab impaired drivers. Also, those arbitrary speed limits you speak of are usually the result of the residents complaining about the speed being too high in front of their property.
I find this hard to believe. I have not seen many police cars involved in accidents that weren’t pursuit related.
[quote]I have a question for you. Aren’t cops bound by traffic laws unless specifically having a reason to not be? Is it legal for them to drive 85 in a 70 if they are not in pursuit or on the way to a crime scene? I NEVER see them doing the speed limit here.
[/quote]
They could be exempt from the law, but bound by department policy. It depends.
I can’t speak for the cops in your area, but most cops have certified speedometers that are far more accurate than most vehicles. I’ve seen speedometers out by over 5mph on factory rims and tires, and they usually read faster than the actual speed.
[/quote]
What does who I pay a fine to have anything to do with what I wrote? I didn’t get a ticket. That doesn’t mean I can’t spot a speed trap.
5:30 on weekday mornings is a great time to catch impaired drivers? So are the just cruising around for the 2 1/2 hours since the bar closed?
Yes, there is a time of day the speed limit is appropriate due to there being businesses with parking lots close to the road, I thought I made that clear. I’m talking about a time at which the business’s are not open. Strangely, I never see cops there when they are open. Maybe it is because it is not conducive to speeding then due to traffic.
I don’t know what to tell you about you not seeing cops drive like there is no one else on the road, I see it all the time and see many near misses. We just had a fatality last year from a cop doing a U turn on the freeway with no flashers on.
Your logic defies me on the speedometers. So if a cop blows by me it is because I am going slower than I think? Oddly enough my GPS matches the speedo on my truck to the digit.[/quote]
Sounds like someone is going to have some Internet Rage soon.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I bet after all this bs Dr. Pangloss won’t do 35 over.[/quote]
I made the same commute again today.
I was doing 70 in a 55 (the construction zone is only approx 5 miles of a 80 mile one-way commute I make) in the right lane and was getting passed by semis.
I was a danger to the rest of traffic, so I sped up to 75 and camped out in the second lane from the right. So, you’re right. I probably won’t do 35 over again because it messes up my calculus. I will do 24 over because that’s a petty offense.
Addressing a point you made earlier: I make a 160 miles round-trip commute 3 or 4 times a week. The difference between doing 55 and 85 is the difference between being able to drop my kids off at school in the morning and pick them up in the afternoon, and having to hire a sitter to take them to school and putting them in after-care once school lets out.
So, here’s the math I face:
Driving 55: Pay sitter $15 to come to my place, pick kids up and take them to school. Pay after-care $45 (3 kids x $15) to watch kids after they get out of school. Miss taking my kids to school and picking them up.
Driving 85: One $1,000 speeding ticket every 6 years. Let’s call it $2,200 if you include the $400/year bump in my insurance premium. But, I get make my kids pancakes in the AM, take them to school and I’m there waiting for them when they get out.
In other words, speeding is a calculated risk I take because the benefits (personal and financial) outweigh the costs.
Cars going 55 on the highway are like arterial plaque clogging up the arteries of the modern world.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Will207 wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
For every cop ensuring traffic safety there are many more generating revenue. Unless there is some impending peril I am missing with the cops I see at 5:30 in the morning in a the speed trap by my house. The speed limit is artificially low there due to a couple of businesses with parking lots close to the road, no bus stops, light traffic, and the businesses are not open. Traffic safety my ass.[/quote]
Are you against paying a fine for an infraction or opposed to the fine being payable to the state? Would you rather do jail time or community service?
Early morning is a great time to nab impaired drivers. Also, those arbitrary speed limits you speak of are usually the result of the residents complaining about the speed being too high in front of their property.
I find this hard to believe. I have not seen many police cars involved in accidents that weren’t pursuit related.
[quote]I have a question for you. Aren’t cops bound by traffic laws unless specifically having a reason to not be? Is it legal for them to drive 85 in a 70 if they are not in pursuit or on the way to a crime scene? I NEVER see them doing the speed limit here.
[/quote]
They could be exempt from the law, but bound by department policy. It depends.
I can’t speak for the cops in your area, but most cops have certified speedometers that are far more accurate than most vehicles. I’ve seen speedometers out by over 5mph on factory rims and tires, and they usually read faster than the actual speed.
[/quote]
What does who I pay a fine to have anything to do with what I wrote? I didn’t get a ticket. That doesn’t mean I can’t spot a speed trap.
5:30 on weekday mornings is a great time to catch impaired drivers? So are the just cruising around for the 2 1/2 hours since the bar closed?
Yes, there is a time of day the speed limit is appropriate due to there being businesses with parking lots close to the road, I thought I made that clear. I’m talking about a time at which the business’s are not open. Strangely, I never see cops there when they are open. Maybe it is because it is not conducive to speeding then due to traffic.
I don’t know what to tell you about you not seeing cops drive like there is no one else on the road, I see it all the time and see many near misses. We just had a fatality last year from a cop doing a U turn on the freeway with no flashers on.
Your logic defies me on the speedometers. So if a cop blows by me it is because I am going slower than I think? Oddly enough my GPS matches the speedo on my truck to the digit.[/quote]
It seemed like you were opposed to revenue being generated by the speeding fines. I offered an alternative way of penalizing speeders. I didn’t state you received a ticket, it was a hypothetical question.
Police nab people for impaired driving at all hours of the day, it’s just really easy to spot them in the early morning.
Oh, I didn’t realize speed limits only applied when businesses were open. That must be the really, really fine print on the speed limit sign that I can’t see.
If a cop “blows” by you and you are doing the speed limit, then yes they are probably speeding.
That’s great that your truck is right on the money. I’ve seen many vehicles that were off by quite a bit.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Cars going 55 on the highway are like arterial plaque clogging up the arteries of the modern world. [/quote]
“but if the speed limit is 55 blah blah blah”
- eventually going to be said by some liberal loser
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Cars going 55 on the highway are like arterial plaque clogging up the arteries of the modern world. [/quote]
“but if the speed limit is 55 blah blah blah”
- eventually going to be said by some liberal loser [/quote]
EVERYONE drives over the speed limit. What does someone’s political affiliation have to do with it?
Oh, that’s right. You’re the same dumb-ass who thinks loud Harley riders are gay (based on a cartoon you saw).
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I bet after all this bs Dr. Pangloss won’t do 35 over.[/quote]
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
I made the same commute again today.
I was doing 70 in a 55 (the construction zone is only approx 5 miles of a 80 mile one-way commute I make) in the right lane and was getting passed by semis.
I was a danger to the rest of traffic, so I sped up to 75 and camped out in the second lane from the right. So, you’re right. I probably won’t do 35 over again because it messes up my calculus. I will do 24 over because that’s a petty offense.
[/quote]
I’m sorry your commute blows, I use to drive to the inner city of Baltimore for work (not nearly as far as you) so I can somewhat sympathize.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Addressing a point you made earlier:
[/quote]
I can’t remember if I wrote this or not, but I mean’t average commutes like 20-30 miles not 80. The difference of a few minutes is negligible in my opinion. If you commute 30 miles the difference between doing 60 and 80 is, what, 7 minutes (plus you gotta remember you have to average those speeds). Not worth it to me, but that’s just my opinion.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Cars going 55 on the highway are like arterial plaque clogging up the arteries of the modern world. [/quote]
“but if the speed limit is 55 blah blah blah”
- eventually going to be said by some liberal loser [/quote]
Lol, if you respect the speed limit you’re a liberal… Classic T-Nation right there.
“I should be able to drive however fast I want, fuck everyone else!” -As self centered as it gets. Sounds much more like a liberal to me 
[quote]Triceptaurus wrote:
Getting back to the original vid:
See, this is why the greater portion of the planet does not get your gun laws. All that screaming and shouting about some retarded “right” to bear arms, but when you have an opportunity to use them, aside from shooting beer cans and squirrels, all you do is flip the bird.
Now, if I lived in a country with your prehistoric gun laws and I was stuck behind some entitled shithead hogging the left hand lane (that would be the right hand lane in many other countries, but let’s just call it the “overtaking lane”), I would seriously pull out that glock or s&W and do a Tarantino on dat bitch. And you know what the driver’s side window would look like, right? Think Django hiding behind that dead body. Remember? Holy crapulations, dat was like Old Faithful in red.
So, if Karma is real, she would have laughed so hard she drove off the road into an Oak tree and planted her undoubtably McDonalds bloated face through the wind shield.
I think I need to cut back on the coffee.[/quote]
What the hell got into you? I hope this is all meant in jest…