I am guessing with strongman you reach your aerobic threshold more often which puts you into anaerobic which is you go long enough you can reach your vomit threshold. It only ever used to happen with me on very high rep drop sets.
Your progess is pretty amazing. Especially regarding squats. Also crazy to see how a different build and/ or squat style between lifters plays a role. The difference between my Front squat and back squat for example is atleast at 50 kg. While the difference ist much less for you.
I’d be interested in your coache’s reasoning for that. Not that you shouldn’t listen to hin, you absolutely should. But it seems like an overkill to me.
Same. My curiosity was piqued when I saw @duketheslaya doing the heavy farmer’s pickups before lighter runs.
Here you go: Searched it up and found it on Tnation
"By lifting a supramaximal weight through a partial range of motion, you’re creating a post-activation potentiation stimulus that improves performance on the next exercise. There are two things happening here.
First, the nervous system becomes excited due to the heavy load from the previous exercise, causing an increased response in the subsequent exercise. From the overload movement, actin and myosin (which bind for contraction) react with the increased amount of calcium released during the muscle contraction. This helps you produce more powerful muscle contractions going forward.
Second, intramuscular and intermuscular coordination both improve.
Intramuscular coordination is the ability of your muscles to fire together more effectively. Intermuscular coordination is the firing of muscle groups working together in a specific movement at specific joint angles.
Regardless of the mechanism, here’s the deal: lifting supramaximal weight fires up your CNS allowing you to lift heavier weights on subsequent exercises. So, you’ll bust through specific strength plateaus and prime your body for strength, size, and performance gains."
I have found they work amazing! It also Carries over to my front squats: Holding 170kg gets my core/ body used to heavy front squats: e.g at the start of training cycle front squats were lighter: if I get to heavy weights without doing the front squat holds the weight would feel much heavier.
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Interesting
Yeah! I’m pretty sure the difference is 10kg, although I’ve only been back squatting for 2 months whereas I’ve front squatted since August last year
How long do you do the holds for? Would be great to build a solid log rack as well I imagine.
Nah the general use of that is clear. I meant the 100 kg difference.
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Dunno, but here’s my coaches coach doing 400kg partials before push pressing 130kg for reps lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpZQiQ7hAAa/?igshid=d1m5wxfjl1u1
I do a leg drive rep as well ( not pressing the weight). Usually about 3-5 seconds of holding the weight. Sometimes I will unrack it and walk out or just go from the rack depending how I feel (walking out heavy weights beats up body more than lifting it from rack)
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I’ve been doing these heavy unracks and walkouts as well, it works pretty good. I just found that doing them for several weeks burns my cns pretty badly. So you might use them sparingly for just a 3 - 5 weeks and then take some time of.
Yeah they’re programmed in the 2 week intensification phases. Week 3/4 and 7/8 have them so far
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Once I’m settled back in Ireland and shedded some flubber I’ll be looking for strongman coaching so keep smashing PRs and I’ll bear your guy in mind.
Thanks mate I will! Also I’d recommend my coaches coach.($50) per week and you get weekly call, Video feedback, Can message him anytime you need, and of course programming that will get you awesome gainz.
My coach is only taking on about 3 clients atm (he works full time and has kids)
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Great name he has for a champion strongman.
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i hate to rain on your parade with a series of big prs, but i don’t think even the first squat looked good, lack of stabilty due to training with too heavy weights too often imo. training for strength and setting prs are different animals and it’s not optimal to hit the big weights all the time. imo hitting the big weights (>95%) will affect the technique in subsequent sessions (for worse). after hitting a big pr one should take some sessions to recover technique using sub-maximal loads (<90%). just my 2 cents. i hope you recover quickly.
/br bonoboschimp
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Yeah the first rep was bad, New to the movement and its alot harder to control than a regular back squat. my back squat form still needs alot of work. This was only 130, after that I hit 150kg for a pr triple lol. And define too often? This week is the heaviest week so far. Its the last week of intensification phase before the next accumulation phase.
I agree, I just do whatever my coach programs. Btw my back is alright luckily. I’m glad it was only 130 that folded me like a burrito haha
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in retrospective it’s easy, when you fail that’s when you know it was too often. but i guess you are after some way to know beforehand. and that’s where i have to be a little vague and just say i don’t know. for me personally i rarely go above 90%, except the oh-press but i’m so weak in my arms that I’m not dealing with weights that will make my back crumple anyway. but, it’s different for you, you are young and can recover from a bad lift and you are training for competition which makes it worth it to accept bigger risks.
imo, progression on form above everything. At least for a recreational lifter and longevity form is way more important than volume, density, reps and load even if there is a place for all these quantities too. but, unfortunately, form is also the most difficult way of progression to measure and to know what it is. unless, in retrospective, you know you have used poor form when you are in pain but that is exactly the situation you don’t want to get into.
doing really heavy lifts (>90%), imo, makes it hard to actually feel the lift, the system gets kind of overwhelmed and this makes it hard to use good form. and doing lifts with poor form often will ingrain poor motor patterns in the cns. i think the sweet spot for heavy singles is between 80-90 %. and come to think about it, why would one want to do doubles or triples? only reason i can see is that it will force you to stay away from maximal load.
/br bonoboschimp
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I’ll second @bonoboschimp for a lot of it.
BUT you have a coach, hopefully he knows what a youngster like you need.
If you only have a couple of weeks of heavy triples and doubles which you indeed needs as a strongman where you need to do several lifts.
I think someone like @T3hPwnisher is someone who is stupidly strong and has a less than stellar form, sort of at least, in my opinion his lifts isn’t that bad.
But you lift with your own body and that form you use might be perfect for you.
With that said, when going back to lighter weights work on form.
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that’s right. for strongman multiple reps makes sense. thank you for that input @mortdk